I just recently got banned from SA.. The only thing I did was change the verbiage on my profile to this..

 
"Would be open to P4P arrangement or long term alternative arrangements..."   I didn't spell out what the alternative arrangements were, but I think the term P4P got me banned.  I have some unique arrangements in mind that are quite creative and might work with the right person, but I think that's besides the point.  

 
I have since then sent 2 emails to them but haven't received responses on any of them..

 
Has anyone been banned before..  What's the best course of action for me to take at this point..

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You are gone all right.
You must not have read their T&C, which specifically mention this? Used to be a pop-up.
And many, many posts on various fora that terms like PPM or P4P are insta-ban.

Did your notice say perma ban, or just ban?
If the latter, you might be able to grovel and get back in. if perma ban, well....

Dick Everhard

Here is what it says...

 
"Your account has been suspended and you will not be able to contact other members or pay for any services.
Please note that your account was suspended for the following reason:

Soliciting sex in exchange for compensation

Due to the severity of this violation, you have been banned from Seeking"

 
To answer your question, I didn't sit there and read word by word their disclosures, but do have robust common sense to not cross the line. I guess I did..  

 
So let me get this straight.. It's perfectly OK for SBs to use the word allowance, but not OK for SDs to imply any monetary benefits?  Where do they think the allowances come from... thin air ?

My guess is that the ban was triggered by the use of the terms 'P4P arrangement' and even the word 'arrangements' could be problematic. Yes, there is a double standard on Seeking. The woman can seemingly use any verbiage they want in their profiles, including the term PPM and arrangement and not get banned. It's baffling to me this is allowed, while men profiles cannot mention in any way these terms. How is it less risky legally for Seeking to allow it for women but not men? Makes no sense to me.  

As for your ban, there are a number of methods to get reinstated on Seeking, from what I understand, such as using a different cc, changing your IP address, and such. Not sure how to get around your photos being matched to your previous profile as the photo matching software now is pretty scary accurate.  

To prevent being banned, I try to follow the adage of not mentioning anything about 'arrangements' or 'mutually beneficial' on the site. Save this for when you are texting offline.  

Exactly !! So much double standard. I was being very cautious for a long time like you have suggested but saw SBs using all kinds of language. I thought to myself that I am being too cautious. Let me update my profile and I can do better with my numbers. I will get better hits if SBs see i am open to other things than just P4P.   As you probably know there are all kinds of women on SA - from just plain old hookers who can be there in couple of hrs to those seeking IRL romance..  

 
I guess I got burned real bad..  

 
I will be moving to a new place soon and the Internet connection will change.. This will give me new IP address.. I will definitely create new email account..  

 
Its funny thing though.. Why does SA care so much..  They are incorporated in the country of Cyprus and in United States no one seems to be enforcing FOSTA / SESTA.  I mean these people are fuckin' paranoid.

An unhappy bait and switch bitch reported me for PPM. Lifetime ban. Oh well. Went over to SB. Same ownership. Slightly different format. You can try a different email  with a different CC and hide your IP address.

Yes, it's not fair. Yes, it's not logical. Yes, it's silly since P4P is ONLY reason this site exists.  

 
But Seeking can only continue to operate if they stay in compliance with the laws of each country that can see the service.  

 
The reason you were banned has nothing to do with the potential that you MAY be offering a quid pro quo. It's based on maximizing top line revenue and minimizing legal and operating expense. In other words: profit. It's just less expensive for them to purge you from the ranks immediately than it is to defend the potential legal costs of litigating your intent.  

 
At its core, it is Seeking following their survival instinct.  

 
So never use any language that can be even loosely related to P4P, PPM, price, rates, quid pro quo, etc. Instead stay with terms like short-term or long-term relationship, enjoy time together, explore, new adventures, mutual respect and trust, etc.   Kind of like what you would say in a civilian dating site like eHarmony or match.com.  

 
There are those here who have navigated their way back to a new account after a ban. Not my expertise. But as far as I know, none of them has had to do so AFTER doing selfie verification. Supposedly, Seeking does not keep/store the "live" pic they capture for the process. If that is NOT true, I wonder now if coming back will still be possible...  

 

Life is good

 
The Cat

Wait a minute. ... What is SB in this context... Another site.. ??

Exactly !! So much double standard. I was being very cautious for a long time like you have suggested but saw SBs using all kinds of language. I thought to myself that I am being too cautious. Let me update my profile and I can do better with my numbers. I will get better hits if SBs see i am open to other things than just P4P.   As you probably know there are all kinds of women on SA - from just plain old hookers who can be there in couple of hrs to those seeking IRL romance..  
 

I guess I got burned real bad..  
 

I will be moving to a new place soon and the Internet connection will change.. This will give me new IP address.. I will definitely create new email account..  
 

Its funny thing though.. Why does SA care so much..  They are incorporated in the country of Cyprus and in United States no one seems to be enforcing FOSTA / SESTA.  I mean these people are fuckin' paranoid.

If there ever was a need for a YouTube video from HTC on proper SA behavior now is the time.  I would frankly be amazed if Sin City was able to navigate back onto the site.

The first time it was a "banned for life" situation.  But not due to my own activities!  My account got hacked and someone used my login credentials, posed as me, and used my SA account to spam hundreds of SBs.  It took me many attempts to learn how to create a new email/phone/photo/screen name identity that they would not recognize so I could get back on.  It is possible if you are motivated.  I have read their terms and conditions very carefully.  You must not say anything that could be construed as offering money for sex.  Even though the women do it all the time!  We can't!  Just last week I was DMing with a pyt who asked me "What does allowance look like for this type of situation?"  I told her I'd love to answer her question, but let's discuss details offsite.  And we moved to texting.  It's not fair, but it's reality.

I didn't get the memo....
When I was on there 10 years or more ago, you can talk price, P4P it was pretty much open on the messaging. The girls had on their profiles the level of "allowance" they were after,high, Med, open I think were the levels a girl could put on her profile. I had a very good success rate there so I bailed on that site after connecting with who I wanted to meet.I came back around 2021, guns a bangin. I was talking P4P, "lets bang it out" with the ladies. Little did I know that was frowned upon and next think you know...I was banned.
I farted around with SB and that worked out well. Met a few where now I haven't upgraded my membership....but now I'm tempted. Someone unique message me...so I dunno

10 years ago was before the 2018 passage of SESTA/FOSTA.  Totally different world online.  Since 2018, website operators can theoretically be prosecuted for things their users say online.  If you mention P4P you are exposing the site owners to charges of promoting prostitution.

Thanks for the memories of pre-FOSTA/SETSA days.  

 
As I read your post I was remined of a spreadsheet I made back then.  

 
It was an analysis of profiles by age, race, geo location and allowance expectations (low, med, high?). If you recall, the site actually stated specific monthly dollar amounts for each of those levels!  

 
I used that to create another spreadsheet that analyzed how much gross annual income a SD had to make to "afford" an SB at each level.    

 
The idea was that we could filter on expected allowance levels based on our income.   Finally, I merged that geographic and demographic data with the expected levels to see which areas had the POT's with the lowest and highest expectations.  To this day, I cannot figure out why Seeking has not offered me a job as VP Data Analytics! LOL  

 
Life is good

 
The Cat

Oddly enough in "P4P" or "Pay for Play", it is the word "for" that causes the problem not the word "Pay". Allowances, on the other hand, are seen as gifts and not specifically transactional.

Excellent point..

I think I mentioned it at the start, but always worth a try with a grovelling letter to customer service.

When I got banned from SA I played the ignorant old man, senile and forgetful.
I threw myself to the mercy of their court… they didn’t want to hear it, kinda told me to get lost and don’t ever come back. They were hard asses in that.
He can try, maybe he could land a softy and they might be sympathetic to him, but they kick me to the curb😂