As were standing making out nude, she stopped and said .....I bet you were one of those tall, good looking boys that had lots of girls. Nope I said. I was short until my junior year. Was skinny and shy.  I then told her that she likes my confidence and that's acquired through life and experiences. We agreed that's why young woman are seeking older men. Lots of guys their age are socially  inept.

we also have more time and money now.

Definitely.  If the money goes,  so do they.  But confidence  lers some of us get by the ick factor.

as we are in gals’ looks, but I’m skeptical of that.  

But, if they want to pretend, I’m game to go along with it.

Which I interpret as Brad Pitt telling a joke.

That women are attracted to good looking guys.  And, many will act on that attraction.  But, it is short lived.  Once they get to know the guy, the looks are secondary.

 
That's where the older fellas have an advantage.  We have confidence and have developed some banter.  We don't just blurt out a bunch of cheesy pick up lines.  And maybe most importantly, we have patience.  We are able to "woo" the ladies without pressuring them (or seeming to pressure them) to get between the sheets.

Guys their age  
Make it easy for guys our age
To date women their age

Years ago a wise woman told me "if a guy can make me laugh he can get into my pants".  I've been trying to make girls laugh ever since, and sometimes it actually works.  Just like a magic spell:  make them laugh and their panties drop off!

Well it didn't work for me. I heard this too so I showed up for an M&G with a clown outfit on. It was quite colorful and would make a favorable impression, so I thought. I even wore clown shoes with bells on the ends of them and a red ball for the end of my nose for good measure. Full clown makeup with a joker smile topped it off. She seemed uncomfortable during the date and we got stares from other patrons. She ghosted me after that. Some POTS take themselves too seriously.  

Hahaha,  but I can just picture it.  You should put that scene in your next movie.

My ex told me one reason she wanted to split was that she did not like my sense of humor.  

 
Honest!

I added amps to my bag of tricks less than a year ago. Once I figured out how nice they were plus half the cost I adopted  IDGAF attitude.  The ladies can sense that you aren't some desperate guy and that helos.

To add insult to injury do you know what the POT said on her way out? "I'm tired of dating clowns."

But as I read this particular forum (which 10 years ago was pretty awesome) I see a trend of you all doing a "self congratulatory" thing. You all need to remember these girls are hookers. The only difference is they don't want to realize it and you don't want them to either.

Maybe some of you are studs, but it seems ripe for most of you that aren't, deluding yourselves that you are. The worst lies are the ones we tell ourselves.

Please take a close look at your alias and then follow your own advice.

 
This is not reddit.  

 
Life is good

 
The Cat

I think you make a fair point, and sometimes I even comment on the 'self congratulation.'

 
otoh, we equally watch after each other's back.  

 
Overall, it's just a pleasant forum to exchange stories and sometimes you just might pick up a good tip or two.

Some of you are much more deluded than the folks on reddit.  I think at least half the shit posted here is pure fantasy, and a strong desire to overcome insecurities.

But hey, I'm sure all those little hotties think you're the best daddy! lol

How about this line of thought: every human relationship is transactional (with parent/child potentially excluded).  

I stop being a supportive, fun, loving husband who also brings home the bacon? I have no doubt my wife would be gone.

My wife stops being a loving, supportive, sexual partner who lets me explore my life to the fullest (including being with other women)? I'll give her half my shit and move on.

I stop providing value for my clients? They'll drop me...quickly.

My friends stop being the type of friends I want to hang out with? Next.

So sugar dating is absolutely transactional, and I LOVE it. It cuts through all of the B.S. and games that traditional dating creates. I have zero doubt my sugar babies are in it mainly for the money. And I hope they have no doubt that I'm in it for the variety of experiences my money can bring to me. And when it stops being an enjoyable experience, the money stops flowing and the relationship is over.

And I suggest that no one else suffers them as well.  

 
Life is good

 
The Cat

Well, if I might weigh in, my clown story was made up. Everything else I've posted is 100% true. I was trying to inject a little humor. [And it certainly went largely unappreciated, I might add, LOL].  

I must say, though, I sometimes doubt the authenticity of some of the postings on here as well, but it's a forum and every forum is subject to that. Reddit is certainly a swamp of lies, such as SLF where much fiction abounds.

Overall it's a great board to support one another in the sub-niche dynamic of sugaring.  

I agree with GTFO to a certain degree, that we as daddies can become deluded by the sincerity of our girls but I think most if not all of us know that it's still sex for money. We can debate to what degree that differs from regular escorting, as there is a wide range of expectations and values that fall under the  subject of 'sugar dating.'  

As far as being congratulatory, I always try to support my fellow sugaring brethren in their trials, tribulations and successes. It's not an easy path to pursue by any means. It's full of thieves, ghosts, liars, charlatans and backstabbing bitches.  

But it's also full of decent girls who are just trying to get by with a little extra money and a supportive partner to help guide them through turbulent times. So when one of us manages to find an SB we are compatible with, and they seem to enjoy being with us, it's a win for us all, I feel.  

I don't know why GTFO seems angry and bitter, but there will always be such people in the world and we all have a right to our opinions. My own feeling is I don't think such negativity has a place here, and I'd encourage the mods to step in if the bitterness becomes too counterproductive.  

Trolls are not welcome here.  

Here in the Erotic Forum we try to be as helpful and supportive of one another as possible, even when it's just an attaboy when it's needed. Let's try to keep the talk on here as positive, helpful and constructive as possible. To that end, I promise to post no more clown stories.    

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I don't blame you for not wanting someone to show up and start calling out your silly bullshit. I very much doubt you're rich and fat. I do believe you're fat with a lot of fantasies. And you encourage others to fantasize as well.

By all means, tell us all how you're so wealthy, successful and blindingly attractive to a bunch of hookers that aren't really hookers.  

You're  pathetic. But I do understand why you don't want to lose your little cult following here. It's probably all you have.

And when we call you on your bullshit?  Really being an asshole to people on an anonymous board shows how small you are.