The Erotic Highway

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herbtcat 6 Reviews 599 reads
posted
1 / 10

With Seeking's recent announcement of new message content filters and warning systems, it is now more important than ever to self-edit the messages we send through the site. My guess is that Seeking is using a combination of automated processes to implement these new standards: a hard coded "bad word list" which will be updated continuously, and some type of AI code that will attempt to evaluate each message for overall context and content. The potential AI system is particularly problematic, as AI can be far less than perfect. But we can continue to learn from each other if we share our experiences here, especially anytime we get a warning (or worse) reaction.  

  
Starting a list of "trigger" words and phrases that appear to set off the P4P police. Please update as you get more info.  

 
Note these words and phrases can be in either HER messages or yours! So be careful that your replies do not "validate" or acknowledge her use of trigger words.  

CONFIRMED:
1. Arrangement  (use relationship instead?)  
2. Sugar Daddy, or Sugar Baby
3. SD or SB or SD/SB  

 
POTENTIAL (but not confirmed):  
1. Cash, compensation, payment, etc.
2. Bills, rent, expenses (as in "help with..." or "cover your...")
3. Compensate
4. Take care of (as in take care of me, take care of you)
5. Naming explicit sex acts (TBD if "intimate" or "intimacy" are on the list)
6. Worth & time (as in "make it worth my time")

 
The more we update this list the better we can feel about using the site with less fear of getting banned.  

 
Please add as you get additional info.  

 
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BdrmFun48 54 reads
posted
2 / 10

Thank you for starting the list Herb.  

More word/phrases to be determined:  

'mutually beneficial'
'financial support'
'friends with benefits'  
'would love to fuck your ass for one Benjamin'

If anyone would like to test the above feel free to do so but that brings up an important question.  

Do the trigger warnings alert the P4P police if the message is not sent? In other words what if I test the above phrases composing a message to a POT and a trigger warning pops up but don't send them, will it flag my account and trigger a possible automated ban?

Will Brandon and Dana show up at my door with a P4P Swat Team in tactical gear?  

herbtcat 6 Reviews 49 reads
posted
3 / 10

I will also add a phrase I saw on a POT's profile after I made my OP:

 
"...before we can be friends with special perks."  It will be interesting to see of her profile text changes or the whole profile gets nuked in the next 24-48 hours.  

 
As a general rule, web forms like the message box on Seeking are not monitored in real time (or "as you type"). If it did, you might see a popup as you key in a trigger word, instead of after you hit the "SEND" button.  Instead, the system waits for the SEND action before it can "see" the entire message text and apply the new filter/evaluation logic.  This makes practical sense as some of these trigger phrases contain words that are not necessarily bad in another context. Example:  "Sugar" could be part of "I make the best sugar cookies - my grandmother's recipe never fails."  

 
Probably... who wants to test this?  

 
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Hobbyist1958 1 Reviews 45 reads
posted
4 / 10

An SB I saw in person directly says in her profile that she "is at her sexual peak." No other hints an support, money, etc, but surprised the word passes. By the way, she was right. ;-)

herbtcat 6 Reviews 52 reads
posted
5 / 10

Thanks for the confirmation that context is part of the new evaluation system.   Or maybe she had that profile text approved before the new standards were implemented.

 
This also spotlights a question we have yet to study:  Is there a different standard or tolerance for profile text and headlines versus message context? We have often commented here on profiles that appear to have rather questionable content.  I don't see anything specific in Brandon's latest "cover-our-assess-we-swear-there-is-no-pay-for-play-going-on-here" press releases and blogs.  

 
There is some type of profile review prior to allowing it to be accessed by others. It's been in place for many years. But who knows how or if it's been updated to implement the latest changes  

 
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Hobbyist1958 1 Reviews 52 reads
posted
6 / 10

Her profile was created in August of last year.

Interestingly, there is another local profile, created in October of last year, in which the SB states that she works in a massage parlor. Yet another, newly created, in which she says she has been a "model in the adult industry" for six years.

sweetman 93 Reviews 48 reads
posted
7 / 10

Aren't they?  Having sex is a normal part of online dating.  Talking about having sex is also normal and routine.  It should be ok to talk about fucking her ass as long as you don't offer that Benjamin!

sweetman 93 Reviews 53 reads
posted
8 / 10

So it looks like merely discussing sex and flirting will NOT trigger a warning, I'm happy to report.  Here's excerpts from a DM exchange I had onsite yesterday:
Her: my biggest fantasy is to have a way OLDER man drill me and pound me HARD!
Me: There's nothing I like better than making a cute little girl's fantasies cum true! I'd LOVE to drill you and pound you hard!
Her:  You're making me wet. Yours would be my oldest cock.
Me: your sweet pussy would be a perfect fit!

I realize this is just a sample of one message exchange.  But words like pussy, cock, cum did not trigger a warning.  There was absolutely zero mention of anything even remotely suggestive of compensation or transaction.  I'm sure that's why we got away with it.

Euro-Guy 52 reads
posted
9 / 10

Ppl editing their profiles are noting that the following, in addition to those mentioned,  have resulted in warning messages (actually the AI bot just deletes the words/phrases automatically):

 

mentorship
generous
dominant
submissive

herbtcat 6 Reviews 60 reads
posted
10 / 10

Thanks for the report, EG.  

 
"Dom/Sub" do not necessarily equate to P4P. And where it does, many so-called "professional Doms" (claim they) do not have sex with their subs.  But easy to see why Admins want to avoid those terms.  

 
"Mentorship" surprises me.  Any relationship where one partner has considerably more experience than the other will almost always include some form of mentorship. Difficult to see how that word by itself can be a trigger. But I do see that in some contexts it's problematic.  

 
"Generous" seems obvious, and there are MANY profiles out there created before these new rules went into effect with that term. I wonder if words like "affluent" are also problematic?  

 
I also now realize that other abbreviations, particularly "DDLG" are not going to fly.  And any form of "FinDom" or "Goddess" are probably triggering as well.  

 
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