Long story short, the 10/10 Indian girl I thought would become a regular has gone off the deep end.  Hardcore.  So, if you have been interacting with a profile name of Jade based in LA, 22 and Indian.  Just run.  I'll give the details below if you care to read.

I've reported and had to send several follow on emails to include just a portion of the threats and insults she laid down to seeking.  I don't report profiles a lot, but this girl went nuts on me.

We met up a second time yesterday.  I drove to her area, she wanted us to get tested together to go bare.  We met up, got the deed done then went to lunch.  After she asked if we could hit Victoria Secret.  I'm like sure, I get to pick your lingerie?  She was mad I only spent $200.  She then wanted to go to Sephora.  I said no, we already bought you a lot and you need to send me pics of you in these.  She smiled and said yes.  Then begged me for gas money so I gave her the $30 in cash I had.

LA traffic murdered me.  3 hour drive home and my cell car charger broke.  So, I got home to literally more than 100 text messages talking about how cheap I was and how much she cried that I wasn't taking good care of her.  Her allowance was already $500 ppm and I agreed to covered fun till the tests came back.  She demanded I pay for all of her needs and how she had guys that would just give her $1000 whenever she wanted.  She also said she never had a sugar daddy before me.

I told her we had an agreement.  Wanting to change that while I spent more than four hours in the car to change that was messed up.  Instead, shy don't you spend time with me and prove you are worth all of it and then we will reconsider.

200 more messages about how broke I am.  And about how she's gonna share my information on the 'network' for girls to avoid me.  She then accused me of trying to rob her.

This morning dozens more messages that are demeaning.  I replied to leave me alone and fuck off.  That sent her into overdrive.  She starting calling leaving voicemails making threats about she knows where I live.  She knows my shag pad apartment that has 24 hour security.  I alerted security and said arrest on site.  

I finally blocked her number.  I looked and she is still sending threaten messages.  I reported her to SA.  Hopefully Monday her account is banned.  

Fun part, I showed it to my main SB today while we were together.  She laughed and made me feel amazing!

Wow this is certainly an eye opener and word to the would-be-wise. No POT no matter how hot, sweet acting and promising is the genuine article until her actions prove so. This experience and some of the others as recounted by Herb [and many thousands before him on these boards] affirms that this space [sex and money] is filled with mentally unbalanced women who will use every manner of persuasion to manipulate you into parting with your cash and your sanity.    

I've personally been robbed several times by POTS I've met on Seeking, as well as have been lied to, psychologically manipulated and continually led on wild goose chases that terminated at dead ends. Anyone in this space has similar stories to tell, but it's worth mentioning again and again that pussy can cloak all reason in the fog of desire. Your spidey senses and critical thinking + patience are your fog lights.  

It's a perilous obstacle course these days and it does not seem to be getting any easier.  

You can't win if you don't play.

Thankfully there are genuine and honest SB's out there who simply want a nice older gentlemen to have fun with and treat them well in exchange for some reasonable financial assistance and some emotional support. In my experience, the hotter the girl the more problems she presents.  

My most reliable and consistent SB's have been reasonably attractive but not beautiful. I think extreme beauty can be a curse, but more importantly, far less obtainable and certainly more fraught with danger than the less attractive, average GND types.  

Proceed with caution, gents, it's a jungle out there.

That’s my experience too  

Nothing as utterly insane as this example  — but entitlement is off the charts  

And man traffic is insanity in LA  / OC - this is why I try to keep my dates on weekend as far as possible  

 I also guard my real name and real phone number like a hawk — even when we are paying at a restaurant I hide my name when handing out the card and make sure if name shows up on the bill it is concealed  

Only after trust is established can they know my identity

Brother netnoy,  

 
I feel your pain... because I have felt it as well in the past.  

 
Sometimes the scammers don't start scamming until after the 1st BCD.  And it usually looks exactly like what you described. You were right to cut bait on this and I agree that blocking and reporting was the best way to try to extricate yourself from the crazy. My guess is she really thinks all of her Johns (I'll get back to why I use that term below) are simps and can easily be brow-beaten and guilt-tripped into shelling out massive amounts of cash over and beyond any agreement for allowance.  

 
Now, sadly, I must double down on your pain and show you how you could have easily avoided all of this. And I mean ALL of it.  

 
Did you do a reverse-image search on her pics? I am guessing you did not. I have three separate services to find profile pics. But I only needed to right-click and use Google Image Search on the 2nd pic in her profile to find her multiple escort ads on h** dot com. One of those lead to another well-known escort ad site (TER will properly not allow me to name it or post the link) under the name of "Therealmaya."  In that add I found that your hard-negotiated allowance of $500 is her standard 1-hour outcall rate.  Her phone number ends in 1319. Her ad specifically states: "NO BARE SERVICES" and her No List is:  
My "No" List: CIM ,   Greek ,   FIV ,   DATY.  

 
So damn, I know this hurts and will make you hesitate with all new POT's before committing.  It should make you hesitate.  As I have stated in the past, in general finding a POT with an escort ad in not necessarily a disqualifier. But if she has no TER reviews, multiple ads in multiple cities and a highly-restrictive "no list" I generally pass.  

 
Rule of thumb: If I wouldn't hire her as an escort, I won't qualify her as a POT Sugar Baby.  

 
One last "tell" that you may have missed in her Seeking profile text:  "I’m seeking a successful man who knows how to treat me like the queen I am."  When she calls herself a "queen" that's a bright orange flag that she will be, at best a GPS POT and will expect a lot more cash than you will be comfortable spending.  

 
My apologies for kicking you (in the nuts) when you are down, netnoy.  But as I mentioned in a previous post: A lesson learned HARD is a lesson learned WELL.  I will speculate that the silver lining here is that your Spidey Senses are now exponentially sharper than they were before you met this train wreck of a POT.  

 
Life is good

 
The Cat

Herb,  

Please list your photo search tools again. I need to start doing a deeper dive on POT photos before getting in too deep. I for one don't want to end up with an SB that is also doing escort work. I have used the Google photo search tool but I've not been able to get matches with it, it only brings up shopping page photos with the same outfits/colors of the photo I'm searching.  

Adonis  

NOTE: My TER VIP account has lapsed and I'm not renewing, thus my alias 'Adonis' has been deactivated. Moving forward I will use my regular account name BdrmFun48.  

Bab, very bad, but could have been a lot worse.

Did any of you notice the recent news reports about the two women charged with murdering their sugar daddy, and cutting off his thumb, to keep access to his bank accounts? Link provided.

In my own case, I had what was potentially a narrow escape. Met with a supposedly mid twenties grad student for a M&G. White, blond, slim, attractive but not a head turner, maybe 10 years older than stated. Proceeded to agree on an allowance and go BCD. Met on a different day for first BCD session and paid monthly allowance, for 4 meets. Never saw her again. After she ghosted me, I proceeded to do some internet sleuthing that I should have done before meeting her.  I originally did this routinely, but gave up when (back then) not that many profiles showed results. Got no matches for her photos, but got a hit on her telephone number. Name, phone number and location description matched on sheriff's department arrest records, for:
- Manslaughter
- Child abuse
- Illegal gun possession, and
- Drug possession

Just wow! When I saw that, I had a feeling of relief that I escaped lightly. Maybe those 10 missing years of hers were spent in the big house?

Can't see a 22 yo Jade profile in LA.

I found Jade's profile... it's still up... not sure if it's appropriate to post the link here but it's def still up you have to use the search filter and set the age to '22', the city to 'Los Angeles, CA, United States' and the text to 'Jade'. I tried using the search Google feature on the photos but none of them pulled up a match for me so apparently I'm not doing the search properly on the photos. Maybe Herb can give us a little tutorial on how to check photos for possible matches.  

You can search for all of my posts titled: "Let's talk about flags." There are 6 parts and number 6 covers all of the tools and resources I use. The link below will take you to Part 6.  

 
And here's the relevant snip:  

 
Types of tools:  
Photo Research: reverse image search, face match search
- Google, Bing, Tineye, Yandex  
- FaceCheck-id (fees)
Real Info Identification or verification: name, address, phone, email, criminal records, etc.  
- BeenVerified (fees)  
Maps: Location analysis for logical flaw discovery
-Googe, Apple, etc.  
Communication Tools: Diff apps offer certain clues and advantages.  
- WhatsApp, SnapChat, Telegram, Google Voice  

 

Life is good

 
The Cat

Much appreciated Herb!

I did an image search.  She used her real number with me.  So I have her actual name.  Not that I'm gonna stalk her.  Just blocked and reported as spam.  

Unfortunately, she still calls and texts from other numbers.  I sent one last warning that I am going to file a restraining order if she does not leave me alone.

I've sent copies of all of it to seeking so I imagine their reports department is annoyed as hell.  Definitely stay away, bitch is crazy!

Netnoy, for the life of me I can't figure out how you deal with all the drama/turbulance/craziness in these SB relationships plus a demanding/stressful job.  Thievery, evictions, stalking, etc. on a recurrent basis.  The fusillade never seems to stop.  But it does have the making of a terrific reality TV show.  

Lol. I'm about to report my fun from this weekend.  Lots of ups and downs but I have some stability which is worth it

Some people thrive on chaos! Base jumpers...Parachutists...Bull riders....and even Sugar Baby Mongers!

I did the same search and came up empty the first time around.  then I realized my filters on body type were activ e so I turned them off and found her.  She identifies as curvy which I normally eliminate.

Indian?  She's got a big ass.  Probably doesn't show in the pics but I can't see profiles after reporting them which kinda sucks.