When planning a meet and greet, i always bring up the topic of being on time. I respectfully ask them what time works for them and i try to accomodate. I always then respond with some version of "are you sure that is a time that comfortably works for you, considering traffic?" Of course, despite this, many run late. I have found a higher percentage have texted to let me know they were running late. Previously, the standard was not to hear anything, but they would show 30-45 min late. Now, i wait 20 minutes. If i dont hear from them, i leave and text letting them know. If they text to say they are running late before the scheduled date, i agree to their ETA. If they text after the date is scheduled to start, i give them 20 additional minutes. Yes, they are subjective "rules," but they are rules ican live with. I believe their m&g behavior is indicative of future behavior
I *loathe* wasting time waiting for a SB, especially for initial m&g. I would think someone professing being desperate for cash, would be 5 min late, not 45....
Is there a flag to throw on this play?
Or other penalty?
F**K I'm not happy.....
Can't tell you how many times a potential SB has been late for a meet and greet. Living in/near a large metropolitan area, I totally understand that traffic is horrible and can be unpredictable. Having stated that, I generally will always bring my laptop and about 20-30 minutes of work. After my 1st drink and the work is completed, I'm out. If the SB contacts me to state that she is running late, then I'll reschedule. If she does not call, then there is no second chance.
When planning a meet and greet, i always bring up the topic of being on time. I respectfully ask them what time works for them and i try to accomodate. I always then respond with some version of "are you sure that is a time that comfortably works for you, considering traffic?" Of course, despite this, many run late. I have found a higher percentage have texted to let me know they were running late. Previously, the standard was not to hear anything, but they would show 30-45 min late. Now, i wait 20 minutes. If i dont hear from them, i leave and text letting them know. If they text to say they are running late before the scheduled date, i agree to their ETA. If they text after the date is scheduled to start, i give them 20 additional minutes. Yes, they are subjective "rules," but they are rules ican live with. I believe their m&g behavior is indicative of future behavior
I've had a SB with a car, who lived 2 miles away be an hour late for a mid morning romp!! I've seen several that claimed to live in my general area, e.a. within a few miles, to be an hour late and when I asked say, "oh, I was in X county" because I just moved there! Like this morning!!! SB's tend to exaggerate, withhold, and often lie. Its goes with the territory. Just plan for them to be late, and go with the flow.
It's designed to show dominance by showing the other party that you are more important.
The only defense is to just not take it. Give 15-20 minutes, then walk.
Or, let them start off by dominating. OK I guess if you are a sub by nature.
Yes and no...my 19 YO son (who lives with his Mom) and I meet for dinner at least once a week...for him to make a 5 mile commute, which depending on traffic takes 15-20 min, but can sometimes be a 1/2 hr ordeal.
Just saying...exact timeliness seems to be 'an old guy' attribute.
Me, I would give her 30+ min without breaking a sweat, and after 45, walk.
They are always late. Even SB’sThat I’ve seen before, I give 20-30 minutes, then I leave. But I always let them set the date and time. If they contact me ahead of time, I’ll cut them reasonable slack. The times that I left, I have had some beg me for another chance. I will give them another chance but, if they repeat it, I’m done with them.
I give them times 30 minutes early and show up at the time I really had in mind. Usually, they are there before me by a couple of minutes. Some run later than me but then it's usually only by a minute or two. I try to text a lot the hour or two before meeting so I at least know they're not flaking. If they go quiet at any point, I immediately change plans.
Maybe I'm just lucky, but the girls I date always seem to be as punctual as I am. There's 2 who I always pick up at their homes. I text them I've arrived, they come outside and hop in my vehicle and the game's afoot. Another on usually hosts at her house so when I show up she's ready to go. All the others meet me at an appointed time and place and they show up as planned. Last time I dated my latest 19yo stunning beauty she texted me she was running late. Like 5 minutes and she was worried about it. These are all very young SBs but they seem to actually care about showing up on time.
I HATE being late. Absolutely fucking hate it. It comes from a 30+ year career of knowing I could blow a $200+ million dollar deal by being 5 minutes late. Accordingly, I always plan on getting to the agreed-to location 15 to 30 minutes early. More if I need to meet a business colleague there who will be with me in the meeting.
Having said that, lateness of SB's, especially on the M&G is part of the process.
Note that I always message a confirmation a day and two hours before the meet. In addition I message when I arrive (always early) that I am there, where I am (i.e.: sitting at the bar) and what color shirt I am wearing. I might also send a quick selfie at my seat so she can quickly find me.
Then my rules for dealing with it vary according to three scenario's:
1. I do NOT have her cell/text number (even though I always offer mine when we initially confirm the date/time/location):
- This is the category which has the highest occurrence of late and no-shows.
- At 5 mins. late I will message through the site that I am here and ask if she's on her way. I include my phone number again.
- At 15 mins. late, I will message her that I guess she's having some conflict, hope she is OK, and I will be leaving in 5 minutes.
- At 20 mins. late I bail.
2. I do have her cell/text number and she has not responded to my previous texts.
- At 10 mins. late, I will message her and ask if she is ok? If she responds, I'll cut her some slack up to 30 min. late (if she's otherwise been non-suspicious).
- At 20 mins. with no response, I'll text her the "guess you have a conflict" message and tell her I'll in 10 minutes if she doesn't reply.
- At 30 mins. late, I bail.
3. I have her cell/text number and she HAS responded to all past messages in a reasonable amount of time.
- At 15 mins. late, I message her asking for status and I hope she's ok. If she responds, I'll cut her some slack up to an hour late (if she's otherwise been non-suspicious.
- At 45 minutes with no response, I'll text her that I am about to leave. Please let me know if she still wants to meet. Then I bail.
In the first two scenario's, if she eventually contacts me, usually asking for forgiveness and a reschedule, and she has a reasonable excuse (phone battery died, flat tire, overslept, couldn't get out of work, forgot, decided she needed more $, are all UNREASONABLE excuses) I explain the Tony The Tiger Rule: "I have a one-flake policy and you just had your one flake. Bye bye." If she actually tries to contact me again, she'd need to offer some pretty incredible value to make me consider trying to meet her again.
In the last scenario, if she has a reasonable excuse, I will generally work out a reschedule. This usually works out well for me, as long as I don't get a vibe I'm being played.
Underlying philosophy:
I- No matter what she thinks her time is worth, MY time is several orders of magnitude more valuable. The proof is obvious: she is willing to suck at least one (maybe several) dick(s) to pay her rent. I am not.
II- There are more POT SB's available. Always. Every day, every week, every month, and every city.