90% of all Sugar Daddy's problems happen because they are unwilling to wait for the 10% of POT Sugar Babies who are really what they are looking for.
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I continue to see post after post from SD's here trying to figure out how to close on every POT SB they talk to. This leads to frustration, anger, giving up, or worse; agreeing to pay GPS rates for sub-par BCD. These guys just can't stand losing an opportunity and feel like they are failing in the sugar bowl, or the sugar bowl is failing them.
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Brothers, I feel your pain... But take a breath.
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Get used to the idea that success scores here are not like college test scores, where you need to get a 90% close rate to feel like a winner. Instead, sugar success rates are much more like batting scores, where a .300 (3 wins out of 10 at bats) is Major League performance. But even a major league player with a .300 average is going to fail to get on base 7 times out of 10.
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So if you need to go through 10 POT's to get one or two great BCD, welcome to the Sugar Winner's Circle.
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Life is good.
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The Cat
Also need to factor in that even when you close on a pot anything can happen at any time. Family, work, school, kids, an old bf, a prior SD, arrest, etc. and she no longer has time, ability, desire or need to meet. Which is why people here like yourself and GaG with a lot of experience in the bowl advice to always be looking for the next pot in the rotation.
Just got back in after a small vacation and of course keeping an eye on the COVID trend. However, I need some Pussy!. lol
I've been back on about a week and a half. I've had one m&g that I decided to pass on. She just didn't quite hit the mark and some of the comments during the conversation just seemed like bright yellow to light red flags.
I've been chatting with a few, but it takes time and effort. LOTS of escorts on the site right now. Nothing wrong with escorts, just if I wanted an escort I'd go through another site rather than SA.
Supposed to have dinner with a POT this evening, but she's not responded to my confirmation text from earlier. So its looking like that one's a bust. lol.
Sitting in a hotel room now waiting on new SB to arrive. We've had 2 M&G's, agreed on terms and have continuously texted over the last 3 weeks. Confirmed yesterday. However, her last text 2 hours ago was "Are we still meeting?" My reply was "Yes, I am in the hotel room working and look forward to seeing you." Haven't heard back. That's the name of the game.
Tonight, I'll go back into the bowl and continue the search for my next SB.
Shortly after I posted, the new SB texted that she would indeed meet me at the pre-arranged time. In a shocking development, she was about 10 minutes early. Admitted that because she was a new SB and has read horror stories on Reddit, she was extremely nervous. However, we settled in to a bottle of wine, conversation with music and had a fantastic time. Left her naked and mostly asleep. Folded her clothes, left a key, a nice note and her sugar.
Going back to the room early for a morning treat if she is still there.
Is the room under your name at the hotel.?
You'd be liable for anything she charges to the room, any damages or missing items, any problems caused by other men she invites to visit her there, etc. It's not a good idea to leave your SB alone in your hotel room.
I agree there is a risk. But still I know I am not staying and so I almost always offer its use to the SB. I don't have a high count like many others here, but of the couple dozen I've seen, none have caused any problems if they do stay after I leave.
Room under my name and understand/agree with you in principle. There are SB's that you can leave in a room..... and those that you would not. In a nutshell, this new SB has a graduate level degree, is a professional, and is playing for the long game SB-SD relationship. So I trusted my Spidy senses with her.
And she texted later that evening to let me know she made it home safely. Which unfortunately meant no post AM workout drive by tang.
Have been back on for 5 weeks now and nothing so far. Have sent out hundreds of messages.
Have had 2 meet and greets, one was a college pro, the other was what I was looking for, finally. I blew it it seems with her so 5 weeks, met one good SB and seems like I blew it and she is now not interested. I can tell you here in Boston
the site sucks!
Between no response to my message, online only, not in Boston now, selling pics, being a pro/semi pro, being ghosted for a meet and greets, wanting ridiculous money, wanting a weekly/monthly arrangement from day 1, etc.
I have met one real SB that I was interested in.
Place is a total waste of time, at least here in Boston it is.
One definition of insanity: "Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."
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I'd say the sugar bowl is cyclic, but for the life of me I can't define any actual cycle that can be seen or used to predict when the market will turn favorable for SD's. Some suggest a correlation to college schedules, especially if you live in a "college town" (Boston U?). Some cite Spring Break and Christmas. But that's more empirical data (i.e.: You happened to get laid 2 weeks before the semester started) than any scientific analysis.
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But it's pretty clear that COVID has thrown the whole bowl out the window and resulted in more:
1. More POT's
2. More "stuck out of town" plays
3. More Pros
4. More tire kickers
5. More cat fishers (IG models living in Australia are not looking for an SD in Boise.)
6. More GPS
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So what to do?
1. Keep at it, but lower your tolerance for Yellow/Red flags
2. Go back and refresh old SB arrangements if possible.
3. Be less aggressive in messaging since casting a wider net seems to just catch more junk.
4. Consider changing your approach:
- Rewrite your profile text - target it more specifically to the POT's you want.
- Change your pics
- Change your financials. I recently increased my annual income (which was always understated) and naturally saw an increase in being favorited and messaged. Try reducing it and see if you get less cat fishers and scammers in your daily catch.
- Change your message strategy. I almost never message first. If she contacts me (not favorite - too many POT's just go down a search list checking the favorite button w/o looking at the profile) I feel more confident that she's legit.
5. Re cultivate your alternative options. You should always have a B plan ready. Think about flipping your Plan B to A for a while and make sugaring a plan b.
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The point is:
if you are not getting the results you want, change your strategy.
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Life is good.
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The Cat
As usual Herb your assessment of the situation and your suggestions are spot on. I just want to comment one one of them, namely:
2. Go back and refresh old SB arrangements if possible.
This is exactly what I've been doing. All the SBs I had in my rotation before the pandemic hit have been quarantining and not socializing, just as I have done for several months. Several have moved away which is a shame but par for the course. Two of my very favorites have agreed to resume our arrangements. These are two lovely young women who I already know and trust. Of course I'd love to start something new with one of the many new hotties I see on SA. And I'm talking with several of them. But I'm only willing to go for it if I find one who truly impresses me with the safety protocols she's been observing, at least as seriously as my own. So going back to the well as it were is a great way to handle the current situation. All those SBs you have dated previously are still out there and possibly as starved for attention as you!
Nice move Sweetman!
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I've been doing the same, with mixed results.
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One still lives 40 miles north and was happy to make the drive back in the day. She hasn't been furloughed from work and I think party due to my past help, is in decent shape managing her money. So we exchanged pleasant notes, but she has yet to accept my offer to hang out.
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Two are out of state, each in a high-COVID impacted cities. They can't travel to me in Los Angeles, and even if they did, they would face quarantine when they returned home.
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One SB I acquired just before the lock downs is interested.. working out schedules...
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And I successfully added a 22 year old college spinner two weeks ago. She's tested, interested in learning more about wine, and fucks like she'll never get dick again. She just texted me 10 minutes ago asking if she can see me Thursday instead of Friday... she's thirsty. Well, of course my dear, because...
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Life is good
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The Cat
When my frustration level gets high, I take a little time off of the sugar game. I've been off of SA for about a month or so. I actually live in an area of the country where the sugar game is pretty fruitful but with that comes more drama and nonsense. It pays to be thorough and willing to walk away from red flags.
Things can change quickly. For example. as a change of pace, I chatted up a sexy-hotty on that APP that starts with a "T". Oh, that chocolate skin, those hips, and that body! Things were getting interesting, she didn't mind PPM, her expectations were reasonable and she was very hot in my sweet spot as far as age and she seemed very willing to please, I was feeling hopeful. Then, things took a turn, she suddenly wanted more than she originally asked for, and she also revealed that she was involved with a jealous guy with a criminal record that she wanted to leave. My spidey senses went off and I thanked her, declined, and blocked her. Maybe I was hasty? Maybe, but better to be safe than have someone show up to my home or work or anywhere.
Be careful out there. Do your homework and be patient. Things will happen.
Just my .02
So true. Always great advice as usual. I had a friend who was starting to get in to the Bowl and was trying to close on every single one rather than play the numbers game. Where he finally got it was a little experiment I had him run. We went in to SA and did a search and found 5 profiles that he really liked. The bet was simple. I told him that he could only correspond with just those 5 and he had to stay within a set PPM amount. Not allowed to contact any others. I agreed that I would pay for his PPM and even give him the cash for dinner if he was able to close on one of them (we’ve known each other for years and great friends so not worried about throwing cash to a friend) but he had to close on one of the 5 within two weeks. If he didn’t close on any of them in two weeks, he had to spring for a provider of my choice for a Vegas trip we had planned in about 6 weeks. Suffice to say he was not successful and I enjoyed a very nice two hour date with a beautiful Vegas provider on his dime. It’s all a numbers game and you need to always be recruiting for your next even when your plate is full. If you are looking for an absolute sure thing and don’t like the numbers game, well you are posting on here so just find a well reviewed provider and go with that.
