Some of these girls are their own worst enemy.  They read about being a SB somewhere and how to do it
then they get stuck on these ideas and are not flexible then wonder why they are not getting what they want and are not happy.

Just got through chatting with a cute 20 year old, lives on her own, works, could use help. Asked how things were going on the site so far, she told me not good, has not met anyone yet.  Asked what she was looking for.  
 She wants an emotional, intimate connection with an allowance.  So I ask her about the allowance, she wants a weekly allowance of $500.

I explain to her that type of arrangement with an allowance is grown into as time passes during a SB/SD relationship, not right from the start when neither of you know each other.  You do not know at the beginning if you are compatible as a SB/SD.  Offered to see her 1-3 times a month depending on how busy my schedule was with a gift given each time.

Whatever we went out and did I would cover all costs on top of that.  She was not interested, she only wants a weekly arrangement where she is guaranteed $500 a week.

Pretty easy to see why she has not met anyone, she will not get what she is looking for.  No one will give her an allowance right from the beginning.  Unfortunate, she seemed really nice and I think we would hit it off and have fun.

Have seen this many times, the SB will be so one track in what they want, they never get anyone and are not happy.
I even explained it to her but she did not care, she wants what she wants and that is it.

We wished each other luck and she blocked me right away  lol

Have no clue as to their reasoning. I think they believe men will just ante up and give them what they want. Their reasoning remains a deep mystery.

but did not waste too much time or energy discovering her inflexible attitude.  So count it as a win!  This is just a regular part of life in the bowl.  When a girl's deep rooted fantasy expectations come face to face with reality, it's rare that they change their minds to something more reasonable.  One odd twist on this scenario happened to me a couple years ago.  I met a girl on SA who wanted $400-$500 ppm. I offered my standard $200.  We finally agreed to give it a try at $300.  She turned out to be hot in the sack and give the most incredible sloppy BJs I've ever experienced.  But she was never happy with the $$$ and finally, after about 4 dates, told me she was not going to see me any more and wanted to pursue more lucrative alternatives.  OK, fine by me! She went on to post a profile on Tryst and is now one of the areas most active pros.  And her rates are in the 400-500 per hour range as she wanted.  More power to her, I'll stick to the bowl.  If I ever find myself in the negotiating position you described, maybe I'd risk asking the POT SB if she would like to work as an escort in the sex trade.  Of course she'll say no, but you can inform her that the rate she is asking for is more common in the escort world, not the sugar bowl. Probably a waste of breath!

I drop that escort line all the time. I say something like, “I can see a hooker for that much and not have to buy her food also.”  Or “listen time her talk also”. Usually, include a 😂 somewhere in the conversation.  

It hasn’t outright pissed any girl off so far. Though it’s lead to many polite declines. It’s worked on several noobs.  

I don’t get why SBs block. Unless a daddy is being outright nasty and stalkerish, what’s the point? I’m convinced blockers will never find worthwhile daddies.  I can’t tell you how many times I’ve met with SBs who circled back or respond more favorably when I circle back.

I have had a few like that but the newest trend I recently came across somewhat surprised me.  I have had a few POT’s outright ask how much  I make.  I always decline to tell them however the trend has been increasing. I came across one recently that was very insistent and I really wanted to know why so I finally outright asked her why it was so important. She blurted out in order to calculate the allowance so she now what the proper allowance with me should be. Apparently there is some information floating around where POT’s are being told that a proper allowance is 25% of Daddy.s income for a month. She hung up on me because I blurted out laughing. She wouldn’t say where that information was coming from but be warned fellas.

Mentioning pro rates seldom results in an improvement in attitude (by seldom I mean never.)  You'll immediately get the "I am not a prostitute" lecture and it's hard to recover from that (by hard I mean impossible.)
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On the other hand I've had them spontaneously declare they are not prostitutes.   There's no correlation with them thereafter accepting money for sex.  It just seems to be a statement they feel they need to make.  Fine.
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But if you do the equating, then the offense is taken and it becomes unlikely to close the deal (by unlikely I mean it will not happen.)

"Apparently there is some information floating around where POT’s are being told that a proper allowance is 25% of Daddy's income for a month"
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The only person I know of who has been talking about that type of sugar math (definitely NOT 25% though) is me!  And I've only done that here. I will snoop around some SB blogs over the next few days to see if I can validate your concern, Refinedtwist925.  Please let me know if you can find out where she (or anyone else) heard that.  
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Life is good.
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The Cat

She wouldn’t give me the source oh where it is coming from but over a period of 5 days I was asked multiple times  ( which is even more odd given you can post your income right on the profile But that’s for another day). Haven’t had it happen this week yet but was definitely odd which is what prompted the post.  

I did ask one of my babies today about it and she mentioned that there are a number of girls that are on social median “giving advice” on how to be a successful SB so she seems to think it was coming from there.  

Love to hear if you come across anything in your research.

Low ball 'em.

Just ploughed through about 15 web pages of "sugar advice" blogs.  Most were not dated, but they way they were written makes me think they were authored at least 3-5 years ago by people who had no idea of how the sugar bowl really works.  They all had estimates and (useless) formulas for calculating sugar based on pure fantasy.  Suggestions of mostly monthly allowances ranging from $2k to $5k, and PPM's from $400-$1200.  
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Could not find any citations of the "25% of SD's income" theme.  
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So if encountered, I'd suggest you try to lead her through that idea by asking some leading questions:  
1. Is that gross or net income? (Assuming most SB's under 30 won't know the difference, you can now teach her some finance stuff, in true Daddy form.)
2. If it's net, how do you calculate that? (Now you can throw in whatever costs you want to reduce your net.)
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Or as an alternative, just tell her what I've been advising all along:  You have a budget:  
"Well I guess 25% is a useful guideline to start, but I've already worked out what my budget is. This budget will allow me to help you out every time we see each other and I'll know I can sustain that level of allowance for a long time."  
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This reinforces that you are in this for the long haul, and she's not a pump and dump SB (even if she is).  
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Life is good.
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The Cat

Primarily used text, was not into apps for chatting until recently. Now find snapchat can be very informative.

 
A new pot reached out to me, we chatted a little bit on the site and moved to snapchat. I send her a snap and she accepts and sends a snap back. I see she has some images on her profile. Turns out she had posted herself from the back of a police car when she had been arrested the prior night.  

 
Had a few pots with images of them at a party with them or other people smoking what is still illegal here.

 
Had a few SB’s where we’ve met, even bcd, but when reaching out for a subsequent meet get stories like I’m working or such, but then they post pic of taking a weekend trip, being at a party and the best was her first date with her new SD (why he allowed this is beyond me).

Sorry for resurrecting a 9 day old post, but Sweetman you appear to be a master negotiator. You and Herb, of course! A question: when you offer your "standard $200" what is the assumptions on the frequency of meets? I presume that is the opening bid and you typically end up paying more but I am curious how often you get together at that rate.

I've learned my negotiating skills the hard way:  when I let the little head rule the day, pay way too much for a mediocre session and wind up regretting it.  Thanks for including me in Herb's exalted company!  I have found no relationship between the amount of sugar I provide and the frequency of of meets.  Many of my arrangements have been right at the 200/meet level.  It's my opening offer, and many times it's accepted quickly and we move on from there. I have had high frequency arrangements, meaning more than once a week, to low frequency meaning less than one per month at the 200 rate.  My sweet spot seems to be twice a month and that's what seems comfortable to most SBs I've known as well.