Here it is:

Decided to see a Provider.  Her rates are $350 GFE.  Add $100 for trip to Greek Isles.  OK.  I decide for the Greek Isles trip.

Enter room drop donation of $450.

Pleasantries are exchanged I strip.  She starts a BBBJ.

5-10 minutes into I state (paraphrasing here).  I would like to take the Greek trip.

Her responses "Oh hunny you are much too big for a Greek trip".  

I have a very disappointed look on my face.  (Why?  I would not have made an appt. if I had known Greek was not available).  She picks up on the disappointment and states "I will give you back the $100".  So I say OK let's just continue then.  

Blah, blah, I finish the session (no greek).  At the end I dress and give a very slight nod "like I would like my Greek fee back".  She says "oh" then proceeds to hand me back $100.

Was I wrong?  I paid for Greek and did not get it.  Was it acceptable to take back the $100?

Just because you are "Ridgetucky," and you are usually wrong (or just strange) But I actually read the post and nope, you were not wrong to expect or to accept the refund for no greek. Of course she has the right to refuse you, but you definitely should not be expected to pay for something that she refused to give you.


-- Modified on 12/28/2012 4:37:16 PM

always her choice..big cocks usually do not fit in small holes..she is trying to make a living..emergency room visits not included..

It was just right she returned it, because the extra service did not happen.
Why make a big deal out of it?   She saw and she said 'no' and returned the money.  end of story.

When I gave the nod/suggestion the look on her face was that of astonishment that I actually wanted my money back.

The tension in the room was palpable.  As I left the room I started to fear that I may end up on some type of blacklist.  

Thus, the reason for solicitation of opinions.

This is the Ridgetucky Reality!

If you are going to end up on BL, posting here and asking for our opinions is not going to make one bit of difference..

If you talked to her decently and she gave you back the money, I wouldn't worry  about it too much.. It seems you need a little dose in confidence and communication.

Communicate clearly and talk with confidence. How you say things matters more than what you say.. Don't stutter and don't be loud at the same time..  

Pick up some books from SELF HELP section next time you are out and about....

-- Modified on 12/28/2012 9:41:10 PM

I've been denied Greek with a lady for the same reason and I am not large. Maybe this is a kind excuse when she just doesn't want to. Either that (which is okay) or there are more tiny dick guys out there than I thought.

she wasn't referring to her ex-boss

Next time you want to nickle and dime, maybe try asking for extra time instead. Remember, the cash donation is supposed to be for time only...anything that takes place during that time is the acts of 2 consenting adults...Taking the cash back might not put you on a National BL, but I bet your on her personal one.

Don't be cheap. Just ask the Congressman from NJ.

Talking about the size of her Girlfriends nipples.

Just like the not so good, old days.

There is nothing in his post or question that does not seem believable. She was not up for greek with him for whatever reason (and we all know that while it could be his massive size, it could also be any number of other reasons) and used the absolute, grade A, number one excuse to let him down easy. He reports this in a factual manner.

Then she fucks him silly, hoping he will forget or feel generous about the extra 100. At the end he reminds her of the refund and she lets slip her deep unhappiness, perhaps even hoping she can use it to intimidate him into letting her keep it. He does not back down (bravo, Ridgetucky!), but is slightly intimidated anyway, so he comes here for reassurance where this pack of jackals works him over, too.

Ridgetucky, if she is going to blacklist you over something like this, she is a nasty person who would blacklist you over something or other, but if she is a well-established and reviewed provider that is pretty unlikely, even if some of the drama about the upcharge has a whiff of scam. OTOH, there is nothing at all wrong with her turning you down for Greek - that is the lady's prerogative.

Write a review, have fun and do not worry about the lady, or this reception.

zig

She shouldn't be offended.  She explicitly said she would refund the fee.

It will always be uncomfortable, so get used to it.  It's never an easy conversation.

She might very well blacklist you.  And that sucks.  So maybe it wasn't worth the $100.

Then again, weren't the same fucker who also said that you were so loaded from your bonus that you were gonna pay for someone else to fuck a girl while you watched?  Or some weird shit like that?

She probably hoped you enjoyed being with her so much you would let the hundy slide as a tip...and she could not hide her dispointment.  That has nothing to do with you, you did not get what you paid for...you would not go to a restaurant and order the steak and if they say, sorry, we are out, pay for it anyway.
I don't offer any services I'm not prepared to pony up so I would never have this issue...when the fee is agreed upon, you should get what you pay for, and if she has some size limit there should be intimation about it in the exchange beforehand, regardless of our typical standard of not discussing fees for services...if there are some services you are going to decline "after the fact" you need to make your clients aware.
She was definitely not in the right to make you feel bad about returning the unused portion of the fee.
OR, she felt stupid about forgetting to give you your fee back? Sometimes body language can be misread...guilt trip and humiliation can exist in similar energetic wavelengths.

http://www.youporn.com/watch/402197/analsex-in-ripped-stockings/?from=vbwn

He offered to pay for the girl while he invited  a Bunch of John Malkovich looking mofo's to come and run a train on her while he watched.

Seems like a C note shouldn't be a deal breaker for him.

The guy is clearly fulla shit.

As someone who provides Greek, I have given the donation back plenty of times for one reason or another, so I don't think you were in the wrong to ask for the donation back. She was probably a little disappointed, but, she didn't provide the service. I'm sure as soon as you were out the door she forgot about it (assuming she's a reputable provider anyways).

Just to comment on the whole "I would never offer something I couldn't deliver" thing, Greek is NOT like regular old sex. There's a lot more to feeling ok to do it than whether or not you shaved your hoo hah and didn't start your period this morning. Some days it's just not gonna happen.

so thank you.  I don't know if I am small or large.  Frankly I don't care either.  What I paid for I did not get and I thought my $$$ should have been refunded to me.  

The problem was the body language.  She was clearly uncomfortable giving me back the $$$.  Thus, I started to worry would she somehow take it out on me by putting my info on a BL.  I started to have the conversation regarding the refund but thought the better of it and just walked out the door.

All I was looking for was  a Providers perspective that as a client I was not in the wrong.

If

... on your assessment of a handful of posters...  "Re: Gee, what a hostile reception".

Usually, it is always the same handful of posters that love to be all negative and attack anyone they hate.

Serpius

Given YOUR posting history... this kind of response from you is the norm.

Do YOU think you are better than everyone else??

Serpius

P.S. I know how he will respond.

Why not extend the session instead of money back? Probably would have worked out better for both.

going to happen and refund the money. She just seems greedy.

Why is there still an issue? Usually girls who have it together do not blacklist all willy nilly..

All the opinions on here won't stop that.

But even crazyshit's first reply on this thread gave him a straight answer based on the content of the post and not the history of the poster.

-- Modified on 12/29/2012 1:26:00 PM

As someone who has learned the hard way, you should never expect a refund for anything in the hobby. She was kind enough to offer in the same sort of way that acquaintances say ridiculous things during small talk. The fact she never went for envelope without you prodding means that she didn't want to give you a refund.

Honestly, I would assume that you're on a blacklist. However, it's not a big deal because most ladies will still see you. The transgression was minor.

By focusing on the wrong things.

That's Serpius' MO.  He tries to find someone who is neutral and who he can turn over to his side.

Then you realize that you're dealing with a sociopath who purportedly tried to hire someone else to get a provider's personal information and tried to get her busted.

It's like that scene in "Falling Down" when Michael Douglas' character ends up getting shelter and finds out that the guy helping him out is a white supremacist.

Serpius would be that white supremacist.  The new guy would be Michael Douglas' character.