OK. Many of us go to providers who will perform a BBBJ with CIM because our wives or girlfriends will not. Why won't they do that?

Diamonds work. 1.5 carats and above seem to do the trick.

If you make a provider pick up and wash your nasty underware for the next 20 years see how many of them want to perform what you want?

Actually try romance, tell them they are beautiful, bring them small gifts, etc... I have not met a person that deep down inside doesnt want to please their lover. You just need to bring that out in them.

... maybe that is why I married her

For centuries western women has been programed to NOT please their men . Modern civilian women wear it as a badge of honor as to how little sex they give their SOs. Girlfriends tell us that BBBJCIM is something "special" they want to save for marriage. After marriage it is with-held to frustrate and anger us in hopes that we do something that will give them an upperhand in their(secretly)planned divorce action against us. Once the divorce action is started the Family Law courts reward their treachory by awarding them half of our shit$$$$.
  Is it any wonder why providers are so hated and villified by civilian women?(Providers undermine their plans and diminish their control) The continued illegal status of the hobby and its participants is an example of the voting record and overall influence of civilian woman and their quest to increase & maintain their control.

  It is always "All About The Money"
  At least with providers their honest and up front about it

  Cm.

 

A young girl is awake at night and cannot sleep so she starts walking down the hall and goes by her parent's room and sees them engaged in sex.  The parents finally see the child so the mother climbs off and the father quickly covers up.  The mother then talks to the child and tells her about sex and that when daddy puts his penis into mommy between her legs you can get a baby and thats how baby's are made.

The child then says that she had seen daddy's penis in mommy's mouth.  "What do you get when you do that?", she asks.

"Diamonds", the Mother proudly replies.

1) Go to Trader Joe's
2) Buy a bottle of pineapple-guava enzyme tablets
3) Chew one up every morning (pretty tasty!)
4) after a week or so, surprise your gf with a shot on the lips and watch her lap it up

Good stuff - can turn a spitter into a swallower.

I agree.  I can understand why a wife refuses to CIM and swallow.  But I can't imagine why a girlfriend wouldn't do it.  My college girlfriend wanted to please me so much that she refused to stop sucking when I told her I was gonna pop.  She swallowed every drop.  I noticed sometimes she wanted to gag, but she did it anyway.  Depends on how much she wants to make you feel good.  On the other hand, my wife doesn't even wanna taste me.  Thank god for providers!!!

wow-  you are as bitter as a pissed off lesbian!  A grain of truth-  but bitter!

I have had gfs who were all over it-  back when I was not into it!

Now I am it's more difficult.  but not impossible.

This is becoming a topic that more of you are questioning. First, if gentlemen want to perform DATY until CIM, then that is your choice. However, although I enjoy BBBJ, I will not do BBBJCIM for safety reasons.  Also, consider how many gentlemen we see each month. Some providers will perform this and you should look for them. Others, like myself, make the experience wonderful enough so that you hardly notice the pull-out. So, it's your decision . . . just like at a supermarket. Some like guavas others pineapples. I do have to agree that certain fruits make it taste better (from prior experience with boyfriends). But please don't belittle the ladies who do not offer anal and CIM. And to those statements about offering her a 1.5 carat and see what she'll do?  Gentlemen, I hope this was a joke, because I found it very distasteful. That makes us feel like hookers.
I'm sorry, I don't usually get annoyed, but threads like these are portraying some providers just wanting meal tickets or are less than satisfactory.

Hugs,
Ciara

THANK YOU FOR TELLING IT LIKE IT IS! Although, I do bbbj-I don't do it to completion and I am a spitter. I am not ashamed to say that I am. Like Ciara, I don't swallow for safety reasons, and the taste is horrible. I don't care how many bottles of juices a man drinks, most cum taste horrible. As for anal-I will remain a virgin until the day I die. I never performed it for my boyfriend, and I will never perform it for a client. Just my preference to have my bottom remain a virgin. I do have to agree that some of the posts about providers on why they dont'do this or that does be little us. I think that men need to be reminded that we ladies do have feelings too, and we are not punching bags here. If you cut us, yes we do bleed. As like Ciara, I love what do. I love pleasing a man, until he cannot be pleased no more. I have over 5 pages of reviews, that state this fact. But it's posts like these that makes it hard for us caring providers to continue in this business. I think what part of the problem in some of these negative attitudes towards women (providers) is that the men got burned probably bye an "eye candy" provider,  where he should be more concentrated on her services, besides what she looks like. Read her reviews, and see if her services catches up with her beauty, before hiring her.

Got to say I have no problems there at home.

In fact I wonder why I even hobby at this point. Except to get a little bit of strange every so often.

Perhaps it would be better to ask your wife or girlfriend rather than us strangers.  Does she know that these activities are important to you?  Is there anything you can do to help her work through her inhibitions?  Is there a way you can make BBBJ and CIM more pleasant for her?

Different strokes for different folks. I also, found this a little distasteful, and hope it was a joke also. I will not do things that I don't feel comfortable with and this is my right to do so! I will save this for a special person, if I chose to do so.  

Kelly~

My wife used to swallow fairly often before marriage, but 5 years later she doesn't even care for any kind of sex. I think
its a hormonal reduction that is reducing her interest, or perhaps is it because my reduction of 20 lbs in weight is a turn off? Any ladies have opinions on whether a guy's 20 lb weight reduction will reduce his sex appeal?

I weigh 30lbs more than when I got married in '91, wife weighs 20 lbs less.  All in all I get it as much as I can handle it these days.......couple times a day.  No complaints here about wife in that area anyway. She's in better shape now than she has been in all the time I have known her. And is built better than ALL of the providers I have visited.

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My ATF did that maybe once in the 10+ times I have seen her.

And she knew it was comming and I didn't surprise her with it. Which ticks off a lot of providers.

or you could be so deprived like me that you don't really know when vesuvius will go- something I do tell to providers.  They look at me like I'm an idiot (no argument there) but I really have no idea- and then its happening so fast I am not really sure then either...

I am in agreement with Ciara on this one. My wife enjoys CIM every once in a while, because she knows what it does to me. And occasionally, a provider will do CIM, for the same reason, I would imagine.

But the overwhelming majority of providers whom I have seen have not done CIM, and it has never once taken anything away from my enjoyment of our date. There are way too many other interesting things to experience!

would ever have a wife or girlfriend that doesn't. It would be beyond my wildest imagination being with someone for any prolonged period of time that didn't love giving head. In college, more than half the girls I dated had no issues whatsoever with swallowing. Coming in a date's mouth was not anything special to me; instead it was something to be expected. If I was in bed with someone for the first time and she told me that she didn't like me coming in her mouth, I wouldn’t be upset with her, but I would blame myself for being such a poor judge of my partner's sexuality. I knew we were not compatible. I could well afford though being so selective, as there were a multitude of teen lovelies whose hormones were also erupting. Being at a fairly radical school in the 60's, much of my college experience was primarily focused around sex, drugs and rock n' roll.

For over 30++ years, from college girlfriend to the present, my wife has always capably sucked me dry. There is no doubt in my mind that the primary reason we got together, and are still together, is due to our sexual compatibility. If either one of us changed and lost our passion for the other, I am fairly certain our entire relationship would be affected and it would ultimately lead to a divorce. I guess I'm fortunate that I can still ring her bell and she still wants to be with me, as she truly is an incredible cocksucker.

The only reason I care to visit commercial companions is to specifically see how they benchmark against my wife. After seeing probably over 100 ladies, there were only a couple that gave head with as much skill as my wife. I was so impressed with one lady and her oral skills, I actually saw her for a few years. Typically though, more than 98% of the time after seeing an escort, it just further reinforces the appreciation I have for my wife's talents.

Maybe it is my age but my last 3 SO's were in it all the way.
Granted I'm past 50 and so were my SO's.
Actually two of them started out BBBJTCNQNS.
Guess they wanted to see if I had two cups available.
Yup, sure did.
My only problem is that I am not the "marryin' kind".
Been there, done that, got burned big time...TWICE!

Let them think it is their idea.


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What exactly is it that you do for a living?  If your choice of profession doesn't make you "feel like a hooker," but some guy can make you feel like that by offering you MORE, your ability for self-delusion is truly extraordinary.

If you don't want to "feel like a hooker," consider not taking money. THEN get on your high horse about it when someone treats you like property. Not before.

The hypocrisy makes me ill. Look in the damn mirror.

Just kidding.......

the we got married. Now she won't. Go figure!!!

why do they think i put up with their f***ing yacking and nagging?  a girlfriend without BBBJTCNQNS?  What's the point?  Swallow this beyaaaatch!

Is there REALLY a difference between a hooker, a prostitute, and an escort? Not in my dictionary.

Don't always expect the woman to come up with inventive tricks and wear sexy lingerie. Take her on a romantic weekend somewhere, buy her some sexy lingerie and some for youself too so she's not just thinking you want her to be the only one who is sexy. What's her favorite color and flower?  Get complimenting lingerie with the flowers and have them laying on the bed of the hotel room. Spray her favorite scent on the sheets and pillows. I love lavender and vanilla linen sprays. This definitely gets me in the mood. Wear her favorite cologne. There's nothing more sexy than a clean man with my favorite cologne on. Tell her how much you love her and want to please her. When you're getting romantic, tell her you miss those times when she would do certain things for you, but you understand that you're both tired these days and maybe need to rekindle the romance. Ask her what you can do for her, even if you think you already know?  That way, it doesn't look like she is the only one not performing up to par in the sack. And, who knows, maybe she's not the only one. Wink!

Hugs,
Ciara

Great response Ciara;
I am still amazed that there are still guys in this hobby that "just don't get it".
Yes, we are "paying for your time", and we should "expect" a certain response.
BUT...
that does NOT mean that all you ladies are alike, like the same things, or will "deliver" the same services.

Guys, do your homework. If you want CIM, anal, "beat me", whatever, find someone who offers that. Don't just expect every lady to offer the same options. And don't get pissed when she doesn't, it's your fault for not checking first, not hers.

And listen very carefully, this is NOT prostitution.
You are not paying for sex.
You are paying for her time and companionship.
Yes, you will probably get sex out of the deal, but, it's not guarenteed, and she has the option and ability to deny ANY sexual favors if she chooses.

Unfortunately, there are people in this hobby who think that they throw down some bills, and you ladies will grovel at their feet and perform at their will and command.

I, for one, believe that these wonderful ladies are a blessing and a joy.
Spending time with my ladies is time away from the hussle and bussle of everyday life. They offer a all to brief escape from my normal, sometimes dismal life.
I will take what they offer and enjoy my time with them.
I will not demand what they don't wish to offer, and
I'll never demean or degrade them for not offering something someone else does.

Just my opinion...
B

OK. well I always know when its coming...............so wasn't aware some people really don't know when it is.

You know.........I think the same way.......Wife may not be the best in any one thing but in all actuality taken in the whole she does balance out be be better than most.

Body and talent..... many have one at the expense of the other. Some of the providers I have seen may give a better BBBJ, or have a better talent in cowgirl.....but then they either have a worse body or they don't CIM or swallow or offer greek, or just get an attitude when you are ready for round 2 or 3.  One thing I give my wife credit for.  She is always up for as much as I am.

She may not be the best at any one thing but she never tells me no, or complains about a second or third cup.

And something else you can't do, and really don't want to do with a provider.  Bareback...........

half of the visits I have had with providers while being very, very good still leave me appreciating my wife that much more. And the rare few tat excede it I still apreciate because its no small thing to actually blow my mind. And I have had happen precious few times.

As a girlfriend my current wife wouldn't do most of what she will willingly do as a wife.

Thank god for that....Wife has her flaws personality wise but she never says no, and even takes the initiative sometimes on a lot of kinky stuff.......which I like.

Most providers I have seen may excel in certain things and refuse others.........or just have some serious mental issues they need help with,  but none realy match what I have at home. Wife may not be the best at everything but she is consistany well above average and refuses me nothing.

Have yet to meet a provider built at least as well as my wife that speaks all languages and offeres nonstop service.

Have found tighter kitties, and more skilled BBBJ and someone who is entusiastic lover of greek, and some that are well built, but not all at the same time.

My wife even after 13+ years of marriage I give a solid 9+ in looks and a easy 10 in performance..........

I do count myself lucky to come home to that every night.

be glad you're not me.  i'm in therapy, i hope it works.

Why wouldn't she do it as a girlfriend?

that's strange to me.  i would think it would be the other way around. i would think it would be much easier to swallow the man you are truly intimate with, and harder to do it for one or more different strangers per day, regardless of how well mannered or clean, or how many dollars were on the table.  i'm not a provider, but if i were, that is one thing that i would only feel comfortable doing for my man. somethings have to remain sacred, and for me that is one of them.

man, i don't know what part of the universe you are living in that is populated with such horrifying female specimens, but that is not a planet i've ever visited.  could it be that the attitude you exude invites equal negativity?

I'm not on my high horse!  I don't care what I do for a living, no one likes to be treated like a hooker. If I wanted to be a hooker, then I'd have lived in the wild west back in the 1800's. I was merely expressing my opinion and YOU ARE VERY RUDE!

You had the choice to live in the wild west back in the 1800s and you chose this instead?  How strange.  What a silly thing to say, honestly. Think about it.

Sorry I can't apologize for what you call rudeness. I never denied you the right to express your opinion, and I never would. I merely pointed out that your opinion is hypocritical, because if you wanted to try to ensure that you weren't treated like a hooker, maybe the best way to begin is by not BEING one.  Sorry to burst your sense of empowerment for a moment, but I'm sure most of the men you see consider it a privilege to pay you for services rendered (which says nothing at all bad about you, and a great deal one way or another about them), rather than the cold commercial transaction you yourself define it to be on your very own web site, among other places. I'm just pointing out that the playing field could be more level, but as I'm apparently the only one feels that way, I won't push the point any further. That would be rude, after all.

Well, there have been rocky stretches..............but maybe she finally has realised what she has been doing behaviour wise that pushed me to this.

But over all, I get a better experience at home even if there is not the intrique of a new body there.



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that not everything should be taken in context. When you say I said lived in the wild west that was merely a reference to how crude things were back then, albeit not all bad. I think you're the one who took what I said out of context and if you're not a hypocrit, then I sure would hate to see you as an escort if you treat your ladies this way. Other than that, I do agree with you about the terminology when you're looking at the money factor and what we have been called over the years. However, my post was not about that. It was about being distasteful -- having class. And yes, we (escorts, prostitues, whatever can have class). Remember, every fad has its day, and thankfullly not all people think like you do and do not want to be rude even if it may be what they believe. We're trying to change the industry and make it easier for women to come out of their shell, but when you put a label on us, it's pretty hard for some to do that because we still live in a puritanical society. Maybe we should start calling hobbyists pimps. It's sort of riduculous, don't you think? Anyway, you obviously don't agree that we should still be treated like ladies and maybe some of us allow you (and laugh) at what you say. Not me!

Hugs,
Ciara

I will on my boyfriends but on clients...I don't know them that well unless they are a repeat. I am terrified of disease or having a sore on my lips (not very attractive)

I do inspect the dick on full light if I do just to see if a sore is on it.

stephanie


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