do most providers expect DATY?  many reviewers spend a lot of time ranting about how good they are at eating pussy.  I wonder how many of the girls are just wishing it was over cause most guys aren't good at it. I like BBBJ with CIM but sometimes I feel like I have to lick her to orgasm because she did me. any thoughts ??

I like to follow a guy's lead. Some really want to give as good as they get and some are happy to just be catered to and pampered. Myself, I'm happy either way!

...but would just as soon pass on it. A lot of guys are too rough and simply not very good at it (at least in my experiences) and I'm sure that the vast majority of those magical O's are academy award winning performances.

You are the client and if you do not feel like it, then that is the way it should be.   BTW, I think you are spot on, it maybe that the ladies are probably enduring it.   I may not be any good at it, but I will not let that dissuade me, I certainly enjoy trying it.

I always ask if the client wants to.  Probably 60% do want to.  If he doesn't want to for what ever reason I am perfectly fine with that.

but I let her guide me & have indeed had pretty spectacular results on occasion.  However it's typically it's pretty clear if she's not interested & if that is the case I let her guide me into something else.

If they are not good and cause irritation I will stop it. Once she has been hit the wrong way, there is no going back.

because while I am rarely asked outright for it, i have had more than a few ladies show a bit of disappointment on those days where i have "been selfish" and not given them the attention they deserve. I have one tica in particular who tells me in her broken English "you suck good" lol

Truth be told, I rarely get earthshattering O's by DATY, but I get a lot murmurs of contentment, and that's good enough for me.

I will further confess that the "guilt" seems to work both ways, When seeing a new lady, especially one who's reviews mention YMMV where it comes to BBBJ, I like to please her first as I've noticed the better job I do, the more she wants to reciprocate and I have gotten several BBBJ with an admonishment to "not tell anyone" what I got, after doing what at least appeared to be a good job "down there" lol

they are cumming before I even touch them. Then when I ad my tongue it's 10 Os in a row in less than 5 minutes, man I'm good lol.

f I am with a girl that I've not been with before, and I am interested in doing so for whatever reason, I will sometimes simply ask her if it's okay to do so.   Mostly because I don't want to cross any boundaries she may have; but I also think it certainly depends on how things are progressing and how well we are relating to each other.  

I feel DATY is a part of GFE. So the majority of guys I see do do it.

Tryiing to generalize human behaviors as ubiquitous is not only dumb but also very stupid. If everyone behaved uniformly, all of us will be robots and no fun.

Here's my thing with it:  The act of kissing itself is fine with me, even nice, but there's something about inhaling someone's already exhaled breath I find unpleasant...smell, taste, or whatever.  

Or just a regular moron??? lmao

but i suppose a two time SPOTY winner is qualified to talk about the vagaries of dumb and stupid.

Trust me on this - many guys are not good at it (and for some reason, the ones who are the worst at it tend to be the most enthusiastic about it). And there seems to be a huge communication breakdown when it comes to body language. Just a friendly PSA, guys: if we're backing away from your face, that means you're being too rough (pulling our clitoral hoods back and grinding stubble onto our exposed clitorises does not feel good). It does NOT mean that we want you to hold onto our thighs for dear life and forcibly stop us from moving.  

At no point, Mr Grumpy, did I generalize.

If she is blowing you up like a helium balloon during kissing, that is quite gross. Although if she does it well, you'd have chipmunk cheeks... and I love chipmunks
 

"oxymoron from a regular moron"  

and the biggest Moron here on TER.  

It is general statement and not targeted anybody specific.

I am a VIP member of the shit-head club. Thought that was apparent.

A strict "no stubble grinding" policy is apparently in order, but I've not seen an official symbol for that yet (circled sihouette art with a bar through it)  I'm anxiously waiting for an official "TT" term for this disgression... I recall you (and others) mentioning this as a concern in the past.  Even as a guy, it makes me cringe to think about it!  

LOL...Nope, it's just the inevitable whiff of exhaled breath that usually kills it for me.  Darn.

Your post was good until then. Now I gotta go gargle with clorox after reading it.

Dear Ms. Telford:
If you had to describe the perfect way to perform cunnilingus for you, what would it be? Also what are some of the sensations that you look for while the Gentleman is performing DATY?  Also do you look for and seek hedonistic and intense hobbyist who enjoy sex and perform above and beyond your wildest expectations?  Tobi, I am just wondering about the pleasure that you would derive from this act.

that is if she paid for it, LOL.

Unless it's specifically requested, I generally don't ask for it or expect it, but because i offer GFE, it's always on the table.

Expected? No, but sex will not be all that great for me without some form of stimulation... just saying. I can suck d*ck all damn day, though.

While I never feel "obligated" to DATY, I like to.  I love making women orgasm.  Its a mind fuck for me that enhances my own enjoyment.  Now whether they are acting or not, hell I don't know.  Some are, but some aren't.  The best actresses or simply put: the ones who seem to enjoy themselves the most, make my experience that much better.  I am always open to suggestion when down there and follow instruction well.  Heck, I don't complain when its my turn to be pleasured, so if you don't want it anymore, just tell me so and do me instead.  I won't be offended.  I'd rather you had fun with me than be miserable.

Personally, I enjoy performing DATY and foreplay with ladies I am with, and I hope they/you feel likewise.  If not, then what's the point?

" I would rather have them enjoy their time with me than be miserable." Fkin Bravo, dude.... BRAVO!

I really get off in having my face drenched, the woman thrusting her body into my tongue, squeezing the life out of me with her thighs, and screaming expletives all at the same time.  Even if it is an act.  

I love performing DATY, because it revs me up as much as (hopefully) providing pleasure for my partner. Sometimes I will do it a bit with a provider, but it will usually be for my own gratification to get my motor running. Selfish, I know . Unlike a civvie partner, I just feel that most providers just aren't into it and want it over as quickly as possible. They are going thru the motions, so I don't invest a lot of time or effort into doing it, unless she asks or makes obvious motions towards it. Then its game on!

and once again you dazzle us with your rapier like wit.

Does your mother still dress you in the morning?

I'm an older guy (61) and I would doubt any young attractive providers would get off from me doing DATY with them. I'm positive that any noises made by any so far have just been acting. Maybe they could actually get off from a younger man doing it. I don't know.  

As a consumer .  
You my friend are the consumer the customer.  

Have her ride your face, and let her go at the pace and pressure that she likes.  Get the right Cowgirl, and she'll grab you by the hair and skull fuck you good, asking for your tongue so she can come on it.  Yeah!  DATY down under.

....for being too shy, intimidated or just plain lazy to guide their lover to what makes them happy. Women are socialized to not question a guys sexual performance (hah!) and when it comes to DATY there is an additional stigma attached to it, largely due to hygiene paranoia. A lot of women sabotage their own pleasure with guilt or concern that their partner isn't happy doing it. Fuck that!

61 is too YOUNG to be calling yourself old and giving up on stuff like that! Stop that.

I had to pry one guys hands off my thighs and tell him...when I move back, let me because it means what you are doing is NOT comfortable.

....I'd love for you to assess my oral skills.

Now make sure to get those napkin bibs on, and by all means PLAY with your food!

... as long as you remain younger than him, you're not old lol.  And my guess is the Boss won't be getting a lot of 10th Avenue Freeze Out if he wanted to do a little DATY on some lovely lady.

... then yours is the only one that makes sense too lol!!!!!

Was waiting for other gals to say it. Finally someone else did. It is true. We get paid to do what pleases you. If we wanted different, then we can go find it or advertise that you must give us DATY as part of the deal.

To me, DATY is a huge turn-on, as foreplay can be as pleasurable as intercourse oftentimes, and it revs my engine as well.   Great sex is not a one way street..it takes two (or more, on occasion) to tango, and it is more than just orgasms.  Although I don't know you beyond these posts, it is apparent that I am preaching to the choir on this with you...I think.

can you imagine how much business a girl would have if she did this??? lol