I look at ads on bp  before I go to a new area. I often  read   NO BLACK MEN PLEASE.  I understand personal preference and that's cool.  But given the special circumstances,  I don't believe this is really about attraction or lack thereof.  I am ever so curious about this.  I didn't pay too much attention until I saw a black womans ad that said it.  I am going to start putting the types of men I don't want to see in my ass. NO ARROGANT FUCK STICKS PLEASE.  😉

I still don't get it though.  Let's just say we meet sight unseen and I have no prior knowledge that you're black or a one eyed martian.  You're a handsome dude,  look nice,  smell tasty,  cash is green and all is well in hooka villa...what difference does it make?  For the record,  the few truly awful experiences that I have had were with white men. I still like white guys because the majority are great. Hence the reason I don't understand the generalization of black men in the hobby.

if she isn't willing to see you.

Do you like arrogant fucksticks in your ass?

Thank you, Captain Obvious. Tell me, does day also turn into night?

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The earth rotates around the sun.

... I don't see black men either!  

I'm male, white, and not wealthy I ignore all the racist nonsense, and accept the fact there will always be racism when there is more than one race occupying a nation.

I've read several who write that they've been treated roughly or disrespectfully by black men.  It's a shame that causes them to discriminate, but I understand.
I'm opposed to racism for any reason but I accept this form of it because of the nature of the business.  Right or wrong, she's about to engage in the most intimate act with someone who is larger and stronger than she is. It's her body and she has a right to do with it as she pleases. None of this is pleasant but it's not as if she's in a typical business where you cannot and should not discriminate.
Just an aside, many Korean girls will not see Korean men because they come from a small, tight-knit community and are afraid of being recognized.
Some women won't see men under 30.  Others won't see men above a certain age.  I refuse to be offended by it.  A girl has an absolute right not to spread her legs for anyone she chooses.

Yet here you are peppering each and every thread with your 'wisdom.' Too cute.

All working ladies discriminate based on economics.

....then waste a lot of time sending emails asking. At least that way I can write her off immediately and not waste my time. I am someone who appreciates it when a provider includes in her ad the people that she WON'T see. Saves my delicate typing fingers for better things, like contacting gals who will entertain "my kind"!

Where else would they get the nagative image from?

And making our pineta look good to boot. Well done

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It is plainly a woman's right to fuck only those guys she chooses to, but let's make no mistake, in the overwhelming majority of the cases it is still racism no matter how you sugar coat it.

and for the record, if I were a black man, YES I would be offended, but I don't really see what can be done about it. I suppose the only thing that a black guy can do about it is to live his life as best he can and hope to change people's mind one at a time.

but still would not give it a rest. Every three weeks someone have to ask again.  

You are stating that, if someone makes choice that is PC, they are racists. Let me throw something for you to chew on.

It's 2015 for GOD'S sake and it sickens me... WE ALL BLEED THE SAME COLOR.  I don't care if you are black, white, yellow, brown, WE ARE ALL HUMAN!

It's a great place for exposure and many do use it to get the traffic, even if it's only occasionally. The bad side of BP is it's riddled with the unsavory, you'll find all kinds of goings on that roll through and are gone in about a week/month and then you'll find a lot of those fishing for girls. The comment No AA on BP I believe is to not have to deal with the constant bombardment of handlers (no matter what name you want to place on them) it's annoying to get hit up by someone offering services or wanting to "help" and most of these girls you see probably are tied up daily with offers to work with them. There are plenty upstanding AA out there and I doubt they'd be seeking out the shady posts of BP for entertainment. I do believe that is posted to cut down on the nonsense, it honestly gets tiring replying to the same BS day after day.  

Look at the news, A white guy is beat to death by LE, for no reason other than  mental illness, police are charged, not convicted, hardly a peep from  the insignificant white crowd.
  Same scenario, Blacks unite with passion, while  standing up vehemently for their rights.
     
Now, let's put  that passion from  the perspective of rip off hookers who don't perform as advertised.
  White taffy man lays his donation on the table, rip off hooker places $$$ in her pocketbook.
   He asks her to take her clothes off, she replies  take a hike, she ain't no HO!  
   Elmer Dudd leaves without a peep, Hooker keeps Elmer's  money.  
 
  Next customer, young Black male, 25,  enters room, gives hooker  donation,  asks her to  take her clothes off, she says no, she ain't no HO.  
  He takes his donation back, tells rip off Ho he don't play no Elmer  games, he's a man with pride.  
   Next time rip off hooker's places an ad , "No Black men under 30".  

If a guy chooses not to see Ebony providers he just doesn't contact them. A provider has that choice as well. The only difference is how the personal choice is communicated.

the other day on the DC Board. I don't feel like going into all of that again.  

Do you think that Jewish Ameticans are responsible for society's view of black men?

Our little tidwit is worse than any lily white "Elmer Dudd" hobbyist.

Next customer is Tiddles, enters room, gushes about what a pretty ladee she is, sets down the donation, never asks her to take off her clothes as he is too bashful, starts some small talk, after ten minutes rip off hooker goes beserk, says she IS a ho, not a fucking shrink and tells him to GET THE FUCK OUT!!! Tiddles apologizes, leaves a thirty percent tip and slinks out the door. lmao

Ooops, I almost forgot, he then goes home and writes her a ten/ten review and starts stalking her on the boards.

If so, then yes.

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but I have a big nose.

Maybe it is racism. I don't know but personal choice doesn't necessarily equate to racism. I am partial to petite brunettes but that doesn't mean I despise all other women.  

Not only is he a moron but also he is one of the top poster on this board.

I think people who get all up in arms forget or gloss over the very nature of this business. I am not on the the other side of a counter or where there are many people in plain view when dealing with anyone in this business. I am alone.

Thank you for illuminating that johns can also be racist, if that's what you want to call it, by omission. I have no issue with whom a guy chooses to see or not see, same goes for hookers.

And never will be. Think what the hell they want for whatever reason because I surely discriminate on people once they open their mouths and show me the inside of their souls and minds or lack thereof. My discrimination is more pointed and reasonable! Lol. Let's say its racism. Even though it doesn't necessarily have to be by any means. I'm no longer arguing that point. Let's go with that for the sake of this.......

but that's easy for me to say not being black. If I were black I might have a different take on this.


I did have an agency who had an Asian lady that I wanted to see reply back to me with something along the lines of "I am sorry, but you do not meet the ethnic requirements of this provider"

I have to confess, my first reaction was "that fucking cunt" It's the only time that has ever happened to me, and I can only imagine if I were to be turned down constantly strictly because of my race.

Lets be honest here, people has the right to be racist if they so choose, ESPECIALLY where it comes to who they have sex with, but let's at least be honest that most NBA policies ARE rooted in racism, and yes it has to sting to a black guy that a woman will see everybody else in town who has the price of admission, EXCEPT for him because of his skin color.

Tell me what to read and what comment?  
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This is public board ass hole

there are so many good reasons to hate people on an individual basis."

And mentioned several of them were posters on this board. Double standard much?

Are Jewish Americans fair?  What if Jewish Americans didn't sell?  What's a SPOAT to do?

Ask him to explain to you what that means. See what you get.

I was w/ an a/a provider and she told me - as part of a very long conversation - that they put that in their ads because of prior bad experiences - violent money grabbing experiences from some a/a guys.  
There are some bad people out there - all colors and genders - we all have to be careful.  Have a great weekend.

An attitude, or a way women are generally treated or talked about or to by that race/religion and very little if anything to do with skin pigment.

This is public board ass hole!!!!!!! Deal with it.

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that the first and last people to defend it are the lame ass white guys?

the problem is too many white guys are sooooooooooooo fucking entrenched in defending this SHIT they can't even see when it personally affects them.

You have the lead by a mile as far as Drama Queens here.

But you'll also have to listen to hours of whining!

Though JCA is giving him a firm run for the money especially today.

Your White friends must have  Italian, or Native ancestry mixed  in their veins.
   
   Almond white, Antique white, Snow white, will usually melt quicker than  a Cream sickle on a hot  summer day, a  Rip off Ho's  Dream sucker .

Had my ass handed back to me….not surprising ....but, I still stand by my perception that the  ‘no AA men’ is pure racism.  

As a result of being mistreated.  Are they racists?

of us who don't speak gibberish please? Thanks.

I guess since the Jewish Kapos helped with the murder of 6 millions Jews that means that the Holocaust was not really directed at the Jewish people of Europe, right?

Or are you trying to help Slingy? He could certainly use it. Though not from you. I mean, you're just not very good at it.  Are you?

and brown guys and....and...and....the list goes on....

Don't try teaching history to me, fool.  I'm way ahead of you. Your argument is weak and pathetic, like you are. You are not worth my time.

You know a couple of AA providers who have said: "no AA men", in response to some kind of abuse from AA men. OK.  

Even though they’re making a sweeping generalization about their own race, it’s still a race-based judgment. They’re still working off the idea that race is the driver of these guys’ behavior. As opposed to the fact that they just might be individual assholes.

I'll be giving an update next Thursday after I meet with the Oncologist again.

Certainly agree with you.  It is better they be up front so I don't waste my time.  No hard feelings.  It's bad enough when providers don't show for appointments they themselves have scheduled.

Nothing new to black men.  We been dealing with this for years.  It comes with the skin and eventually all black men have to come to the realization that it is and will always be that way.  Really!! As a black man, I don't want to see providers that don't want to see black men because it reduces the fun and pleasure of the union.  I would think the same feeling I have, men from other races feel the same.

There is no need to change providers mind.  As a black man are we to sit around crying because some provider don't want to see us.   Most of the providers I have seen that say no black man don't have outstanding reviews.  I think the ones that say that know that they better bring the energy when dealing with black men.

Well said and so true.

Hey.  It is no different than "Tell me your race" required before a provider will see you.  When they say that you know what they are saying.  It is just more Politically correct.

They say that because they are weak and just don't have the skills in the bedroom and outside of the bedroom.

They say NO BLACK MEN OR NO AA because they lack the skills and talent.  I've study providers that say that and 90 percent of them have poor reviews or no reviews.  Very few of them have high ranking in their performance.  Check it out for yourself.

True and I agree with you.  So why don't you list those type.

As a black man.  We don't sit around crying about those comments when we looking for a provider.  I prefer them.  Tell me what you don't like so I can move on.

Excellent points!  Thank you for such an intelligent, sensible, well-written and well thought out commentary.  If more people thought and truly felt that way, the world would be a far better place.

And please note I said in my original post on this that it sucks.  All I"m saying is that because of the nature of this business I am understanding of the policy, though sad it happens.
For example, I don't think girls should refuse to see RodTidwell because he's black.
But I understand those who won't see him because of his board persona and stalker-ish behavior.

The provider that I was with who had that posted in her ad told me it was because most all of the black guys want to try and recruit her and make her work for them. They supposedly offer to get them alot more business if they will allow the black guy to become their pimp. She said it had nothing to do with not being attracted to black guys, but by posting no black guys in her ad, that it prevents the drama of the black guys approaching her to work for him.
I forgot to mention that this is mostly only on BP. I don't recall seeing No black men on any of the P411 ads and if so, it's a very small percentage compared to Back Page postings.

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I've often viewed  inicky as a weakling wearing a  transparent disguise.
 
  He's funny too. I LOL when he's replying to someone while claiming he doesn't  
have time.
   
   Now that you've  brought it up, I believe you're right, he's a  a typical Kapos , weak at heart, born to denounce, spy and stalk.

Posted By: Ridgetucky

I guess since the Jewish Kapos helped with the murder of 6 millions Jews that means that the Holocaust was not really directed at the Jewish people of Europe, right?  
   
 Ya see all those Nazis could say how was it Anti-Semitic?  Look at all the Jewish Kapos that are helping.  Jeez, you people cry Anti-Semitism all the time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  
   
 The system was designed to turn victim against victim, as the prisoner functionaries were pitted against their fellow prisoners in order to maintain the favor of their SS guards. If they were derelict, they would be returned to the status of ordinary prisoners and be subject to other kapos.  
   
 Learn your history so that a Black guy from the hood doesn't have to teach it to you

I don't know about Rod, but I wish to God I could dance like Fred Astaire. I probably wouldn't be on this board right now if I could. Channing Tatum? Nah, you guys can keep him.

I am more subtle than listing...."no arrogant woman haters or men whose culture treats women like trash etc. etc."

Here’s the thing, though. If she cut off all Black men after say, five pimp calls, how does she know there weren’t 15 other non-pimp Black men waiting to become regulars? And another 10 after that after eight of the original 15 moved on? It’s not like there’s an infinite supply of pimps out there (and for the sake of argument, we’ll assume there’s no such thing as a non-Black pimp, though there are), so after they tried to reel her in and got nowhere, they’d eventually go away. (I hope.) Meanwhile, she’s turned away a steady supply of customers.

It can't just be skin color? To outright ban of a whole section of the population by some hookers in regards to sexual activity, intimacy and alone time...well I guess the question is why?  

I won't see men under 40. Does that make me a bigot? Some hookers won't see really heavy guys...does that make them a bigot? If I get an email from an asshole and don't see him does that also make me a bigot...or does it make me someone who knows what she can handle and has made those choices from experience and would prefer to be as comfortable as she can while doing something so fucking intimate and I will stress while I am ALONE?

If a woman has had more than one bad experience with anything and she then cuts her losses and says..."no more of that for me"...should she still not keep going to find the diamond in the rough or should she learn from her experiences and play it safe?  

And they were perfect gentlemen. I am thinking the demographic that might be the cause of such ire are those who might troll BP. And that might also depend on what state and if BP is the only form of advertising. I used to advertise in other areas and had no issue with pimps or slang talking anyone.

But I have seen a no hobbyist thread and a no TER guy thread where hookers will not see those guys and the vast majority are white dudes.  

And one of your messages up there about those type of emails, exactly. Being at a certain donation point, screening your clients, and paying attention to how they express themselves, will get you more times than not (most times), those two black gentleman you have seen. All lower class black guys are not assholes and talk down to women but the environment most of them are in unfortunately welcomes that type of bs too much. For the record, there are a lot of black women within those environments that can't stand that crap.

Accusing all of those women for having less skill than white hookers? And what extra skill is needed to deal with an AA man?

To believe it is ONLY skin pigment. Is there not more to an AA man than that? What about attitude and how he views woman in general and how he speaks about them and to them. And that goes for every race and religion and sex too. Public perception is huge.  

race of clientelle that contact you cause drama then you have every right to pick and choose and to say to hell with it i dont even wanna meet with any one from that group of people .  

on their ads or websites. How did I manage to see them. I contacted them, presented myself respectfully, gave them references or other means of verification explained below. For a few of them, I was their first contact with a black guy in or out of the hobby. Actually one of them was with an agency when she or the agency had no black guy allowed and then she went independent. It wasn't on her new website, so I contacted her. We eventually talked on the phone and I told her I was black. There was a pause and she said I've never seen a black guy ever in or out. I told her my background and that she couldn't be safer with any other human regardless of color than with me. She agreed to meet. Fun fun times and I mean fun!

But it doesn’t mean that this perception is one that can be accurately, or fairly applied to all black men.  Some men behave badly. Some of these men are white. So why don’t we see “NO white guys” posted?

Where's Conan when needed? You need to rally here son.

and forgive me, but who else is he accusing of being a stalker?

Could it be that he is accusing you are being a stalker because, well because you've been stalking a friend of his?

and Inicky is hardly the only one who posts on multiple boards, just how long have you had this persecution problem?

If you speak about provider about "lady" you are respectfull gentleman.
 

Sir Rodless, it would appear YOU are the liar. You tell folks  a poster is from MN and clearly he's not. You claim to not have vip yet like a little school girl you report kind hearted pm's to admin which requires vip according to my personal Cpa. Then you claim someone here forced dear Angel to toss you under the bus when she seems to be her own woman or are you claiming she's spineless and can't think for herself? Maybe I'll ask her to opine here? What say you? You truly are a sociopath.  

Claiming you can't think for yourself and are easily manipulated? Just curious.

I did NOT mean that you will be changing the minds of any hookers. I simply meant that by going about your business of being a decent human being, eventually attitudes will change. It's a shame that there are still people that feel this way, but we have made huge strides over the last few decades, and hopefully we will make further progress in the future.

I've never met a black man whose admitted to seeing a provider.

I have seen his wife. She almost made me a watcher of "Witches of East End," but I couldn't make it through a whole hour. There might not be enough heat in the world to make that happen.

Anybody check the news?  Ferguson, Baltimore....Too bad "the button" does not exist to blow those ignorant, looting fuckers and those states off the map.

And presently what I'm seeing is a lot of black folk burning down and robbing their communities when shit don't go their way.  Raise taxes and build more prisons!  If you can't kill em, lock em up.  

someone else communities would have been "smarter". It was surely ignorant, foolish and misplaced but there were waaaay more black folks along with many other colors voicing their concerns the right way. The mere fact that you think that faction of black young idiots were doing that because of their thoughts or anger at "slavery" surely makes you one of the most ignorant. You won't find the average black person to disagree it was asinine. They were opportunists. They weren't angry at any injustice which may have occurred in Baltimore and definitely weren't angry at "slavery" as you call it because they have never experienced it motherfucker. I won't get into why those idiots are the way they are but they are not the majority of black men. Multi-faceted, multi-dimensional and I know for sure too complicated for your simple mind. Without question.  

you want jails for them too. I could go all day with you but I'm tired.

Gorilla Pimping is fading and being replaced by Finesse Pimping. Pimps need to recruit and contacting girls who aren't on the track is now necessary. It doesn't matter if the girl has a pimp or not.  Girls now have the option to leave one pimp for another with a certain protocol. If a pimp is smooth he will be successful.

Racism, like sexism is here to stay.

There will always be a lower element in any race. if that is not your cup of tea, then advertise (website, images etc) to who you want to see. It really is not that hard.

Rampant naivety.  
I mean you are spot on. Unfortunately, not everyone can figure that sort of thing out on there own.

Sorry but racism is far worse. You are a moron if you think otherwise. White women if anything control too much so give it a rest.  Between a AA person and white woman, the AA had it worst. White women owned slaves in the South. Seeing a AA or another minority suffer is more heartbreaking.