Well, just had another provider no show this morning. We had communicated for the last few days about how she would meet me at 8:30 this morning. I have had 3 others bail on me without a word ahead of time. They all clearly made a commitment to meet at a specific time, and all left me hanging without a word.
So, about an hour after I left, she texts me this :  
Sorry yeah was bad idea for me sorry again I was sleeping maybe u call set up something with someone elese I star working after 10 sorry have a nice day
Sweet. Yeah all of a sudden she starts work at 10. After making an appointment for 8:30.  
Her reviews have said how sweet and nice she is.
TS Fernanda, 371535
Yeah, doesn’t GAF.

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I’ve seen some providers who charge extra for late night dates. Maybe you could offer extra for your early morning dates. That might incentivize them to actually wake up!

Might not be a bad idea. Who knows what will incentivize them, that I’m able to pay.

that instead of Fernanda, you might have earlier called Fernando and set up the appointment, and maybe... just maybe.. you got a tad bit confused on the day of the appointment ?  Do you leave any room for that possibility?

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No, not the slightest possibility.  Where do you get your Moonshine? It must be some really good stuff.

That is just incentivizing poor business ethics.  

First, more general case, is that my impression is that a number of the independents will be more night owl than early birds so you are asking them to break their normal routines. That will increase the fail rate I suspect -- but your 1000 batting average (is that a correct take for recent appointments) is still pretty unacceptable. I am sure you've been seeking those who are interested in early morning sessions but seems that is something of the unicorn case. I can only recall having heard one independent provider say she actually likes early morning appointment that I think was an honest statement.

I have been reiterating that it is morning appointments I need, due to my unique situation. I’m quite clear on that. These providers knew what they were agreeing to. It was THEIR choice to agree to it. I can’t force anyone to agree to take me on in the morning. I made my request, and they agreed to it. I know that it’s a big ask for most, and I thank them for agreeing to it. And after that to just blow me off without a word shows they really don’t GAF. I’m a gentleman and considerate. I always tip well and bring a small gift. I’m worth getting up for. I honestly have no trust left.

You really need to really learn to navigate the TER board and use the TREE mode instead of FLAT mode, so you don't look like you have gone senile and having conversations with yourself - like my grandpa used to have before he died. LOL.  

Hey, I’m really new here. No idea what the different modes are or how to use them. Thanks for clueing me in.
I’m probably older than your grandfather when he was talking to himself, so I’m happy to see someone but me is answering. A sense of humor is not my problem, I’m a lot more receptive to humor when I’m getting laid.

OK on top right hand side you have TREE mode and FLAT mode.. Make sure you are on TREE mode.. This way you can respond to a separate branch of the conversation.. This makes following conversations easier..  

I love early morning appointments! I don’t, like late nights, but I got a deposit & booked a date Friday 9-11pm. I prepared by taking a nap in the afternoon because it’s past my bedtime. I showed up & showed out. No extra charge needed. Proper preparation prevents poor planning.  

You set the standard! Of course, you are on the wrong coast. LOL.

I just had a situation with a lady I have seen a few times a couple of years ago when I lived in another state. I saw she was going to be touring near me so I thought it would be fun to see her again. I reached out and made an appointment - over a month in advance. She confirmed the date and time (10 AM).

And this is the other part of the problem. Not so much as a word to tell you that you are not going to have your appointment.  It’s very disrespectful, and shows lack of manners.
My other, lesser gripe, is that for every provider who has no showed without a word. About 4 other providers that I contact never even answer my texts to see if they are interested. A simple “ sorry, I don’t do mornings” would be the correct way to handle it. But most all simply do not answer at all.  
SMFH
No class, no manners, poor business relations..

Not a single time have I seen him condemn a poor ethical decision by a provider. Either a half-joke is made to deflect or the decision is deemed "normal"

are completely symmetrical.   Lol

Some have found you to be an example of one.
Personally, I have fondled Rasha's and found it to be so perfectly symmetrical that physicists can use it to calibrate their instruments.

Your “woe is me, the glass is half-empty” perspective is really getting tiring.

But it makes sense. Even when a provider engages in clearly shitty tactics, you seem to place the burden of blame on the buyer who did NOTHING WRONG.

It would be interesting to me, and I assume others, to hear from more of our great providers here.  Their point of view would have to be more from the inside looking out, and thus, more enlightening.
Ladies, you have the floor…

Reading comprehension seems to be a major problem for you.

on these boards is that you want illegal prostitution businesses to run the same was as other kinds of small businesses that are not illegal.  You talk about "shoddy business practices" and lack of "customer service" in an industry with no regulation or oversight.   Until prostitution is legalized, business practices are not going to change much.  Try reporting a girl that stood you up to the Better Business Bureau and tell me what you will say when they stop laughing at you.  

Prostitution is legal in many places and the business model changes from place to place. While in some cases legal prostitution DOES run "the same as other kinds of small businesses" it's not true in all cases. In Costa Rica and Panama, for example, it runs as a hooker-to-monger barter business. And while there are occasional problems, the issues of NCNS, B&S, etc. simply don't exist.

First, it's not just me  Herbtcat just said this:

That must be a pain in the ass with hotels as I am assuming u r booking the hotel room when they confirm and then you have to go through the hassle of cancelling the room which can be a giant headache.

No. I go to their incall site. Or would, if I think they will be there.

You suggested to pay extra so providers can stay awake for an appointment they agreed on. Of course you didn't suggest he rescheduled with same flake. But your suggestion implied that you think it's OK, and now have the nerve to advise giving them extra money for something they have to do as part of their job.  

While I have never gone to the cheapy places like Costa Rica and Panama, I have about 20 reviews in Europe in my review history.  In fact, I have three recent ones for ladies I saw in September in the queue waiting for approval.  Two of them are new to TER and I had to set up the profile.  I doubt that the business runs the same in Costa Rica as it does in Europe, but your Central American experience is duly noted and I will not denigrate you for not having broader experience like you are wont to do.  I accept that you are an expert in the third world prostitution scene.  Lol  

by a plumber is NOT the same as having your pipes cleared by a provider.  You should know this by now.  Lol

I'm tired and bored of your little deflection tactic.

did you ramble on so long?   You have long had a bad attitude about this biz because you don't get the kinds of outstanding sessions that other reviewers get.  You have admitted before that your percentage of bad sessions is five to ten times what mine is.  The reason is attitude . . . not the provider's, yours.  I have learned from seeing well over a thousand different providers that you often get back the attitude that you bring to a session.  The ladies are intuitive, and if you show up with a chip on your shoulder, you are likely to get less than her best effort.  If you show up positive and happy, she will respond in kind.  Your worry about bad sessions becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.  You're the quintessential negative personality and it's being reflected back at you.  Your solution?  Revenge . . . .   "I'll be more than happy to assist with this karma coming much sooner than later, against any seller in US."      Time for a little introspection?    The definition of a moron is a guy who keeps doing the same thing and expects a different outcome.  

And yes, to reiterate, your reading comprehension is sorely lacking.

As expected, you have failed to answer

"Paying a reliable provider to show up in no way rewards the unreliable providers (the count is up to four now) who have ghosted him.
"
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Sounds its you who has comprehension issues.  

"Re: Offering an extra fee? No thank you.
That is just incentivizing poor business ethics"

for night calls or weekend repairs.

you said, . . . . . "You reap what you sow . . ."  That's essentially the point I made about you and the bad sessions that seem to be your hallmark.  If you want to apply it to providers, it's up to you, but don't tell me that you are not about revenge when you will "help" anyone who has had a bad experience with a provider get even with her.

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What else is new? You can't answer my questions just like I lve said and you are blatant about it too. Lol.  

for another member.  I don't know what his position is.  He follows this board, so why not ask him yourself and get HIS answer.  I can only give you my own views.  I believe I already responded to assymetry farther up the thread.  No need to repeat yourself.  I'm not the one rambling on and repeating myself, so look again at who the desperate one is.  You VOLUNTEERED on the Kgirl board that a large number of your sessions were disappointments.  How is me reminding you of what you said ABOUT YOURSELF a "character attack?"

Here I'll repeat my questions since you're pretending to not understand them.  

I look at it this way. Don’t pay a deposit her ass doesn’t show who cares? Last thing I’d want is someone who doesn’t want to be there show and half assed it.

You spent time (=money) and probably money preparing for the appointment. You may have had to do some SO arrangements. You may have had to do work arrangements. Where's the regard for that?  

This lack of ethics is widespread. Its not taught in schools, and the lack of ethics starts in the home, where the parents, if there are any, don’t have any. Our culture, such as it is, models the opposite attitude. I’m sick to see the degradation of our country.
I really wish some of our providers here would chime in. I’m curious to hear from their point of view.

provider appointments frames your opinions around your own POV and biases from your own experiences.  Using the vernacular, it shows where you are coming from.  If my own success rate was as low as yours, I would probably have the same bad attitude towards providers and orgs, and would most likely hang up my spurs until I figured out my own issues.

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So yeah you attack my character instead of talking about the topic on hand.  Which was about a provider ghosting a monger with no explanation whatsoever on an appointment.  

... get fired.

Isn't there a rip off thread or a way to post it on TER?
Too bad you can't do a review as a NCNS, fill in whatever stats from her website.
Just write up the texting/phone call in the general details and then do a not so juicy details!

I do wish there was an organized way for us to impact a provider who ghosts us or otherwise treats us poorly. Afterall, it’s a service profession.  All we can do is call them out here, naming names. Then it’s up to us to act accordingly, by not patronizing thrm, and spreading the word among ourselves. Until one or more of us, who knows how. starts up a formal blacklist, that’s the best we can do. Like the “ Go woke, go broke” movement. I fully expect blowback for this, but right is right.

character.  I'm merely pointing out you have a highly biased negative attitude towards providers and orgs.  When youi project negativity in your ATTITUDE, it will produce negative results from the providers, resulting in your high rate of disappointing sessions.  I have no opinion on your CHARACTER one way or the other, so no need to play the victim here. This is a topic YOU wanted to discuss. There is no reason to hijack this thread to make it all about your character.  I'm merely giving my opinion based on having seen over a thousand different providers spread over several thousand sessions.  

Would anyone be interested in two of the other providers who bailed on my appointments?

Herb said that the practice is inexcusable.
I said its inexcusable

Why the blowback? The providers make blacklists and openly talk about them, how are the mongers any worse?

The more public a list of shitty practice providers, the merrier.

TS Summer 374588  Had set up for 8:30am. When I texted the night before to reconfirm, she said “it’s too early”.
TS I-Da 358819  Had set up an 8:30am . When I texted the night before to reconfirm, she said she wouldn’t start that early.
There was another that left me waiting in the parking lot for her room number. I texted her later that afternoon., and she apologized, and gave me a reason. She rescheduled me for the next day, same time. She saw me on time. So, I don’t include her.

you should also state the reason they gave you for not making it, if any.

If my post gets approved,  you can read they said it was too early.

I should stress that all these providers had very positive reviews here. People who had been with them were quite satisfied. But, as far as I’m concerned, if they tell you they will see you at a specific time, and then renege on the deal, they are seriously lacking in a basic requirement of their profession. They have really left me with no trust of providers.

At least apologized and/or listed their reasons. The only provider who seemed to ghost you completely was in the OP. Am I reading this right?

First, I was calling THEM to reconfirm. They did not contact me. You did not get the attitude in their texts. It was no apology, there was no admission of regret. If anything it was a curt dismissal. Had I not texted them, they were not planning on letting me know. It was more like , “ oh it’s you, get lost”.

Hello Fellow Hobbyists,

No, you’re not. I would have done the same thing you did, and after the first hostile response I would have blocked her number and named her here and on other escort sites.

No. If I receive a serious booking I accommodate who booked first regardless of regulars it’s unprofessional. Ridiculous.

No, the provider was the A-Hole. Notice, it was all about “her time”. Same attitude as those who didn’t  bother to keep their appointments with me. It’s all about them. You weren’t even asking for an early morning either.

This World has truly gone down-the-drain, with unprofessional behavior,
noncommittal Providers and those that "supposedly have College degrees",
though they cannot punctuate, iterate, nor spell!

It’s widespread, and getting worse. I have been watching this happening for decades now. Lousy education, and worse attitudes.

Why does this "early morning" thing keep coming up. It's all relative. If the providers you were trying to see didn't work before 10 AM then they should have told you that when you booked instead of making the appointment that they had no intention of keeping.

Man, I’m ex military, and I get up every day at 4:45am.  I don’t think of 8am as early, but a lot of people seem to. My whole point is just as you say. If you don’t start your day before 10am, don’t book an appointment at 8, with no intention of making it. I just had a fantastic 8am NURU massage this morning by Ava. She’s not only hot, but she has a real work ethic. She will get repeat business from me and my recommendation.

I get you. What you speak is truth. At my age I just don’t sweat it anymore.

Jackcat,  
  I would like to know where your head was when you asked the PROVIDER to see you at 8:30 am?!

It’s not a question of where my head is at. Because I caretake a disabled wife 24/7/365, with almost no time for myself. The only time I can ever get away is early mornings. I live without any social life or any of life’s usual pleasures. I have done this for decades. I finally could stand no more without some enjoyment.
THAT is why I can only ask for early mornings. I KNOW that few providers will accommodate me, but some do, and I show my appreciation and gratitude. The others are free to decline, but to agree and then not go through with it, is really low.  
Does actually knowing why answer your snarky question?

And don't take her snarky shit to heart. We're talking about TER's Village Idiot here.

I know myself better. It takes me 2 hours to get ready for first appointment of the day. I start at 10am wish it could be 10:30am

Thanks, hon. I have become less patient with mouthy idiots lately. I really don’t GAF what, if anything, she or anyone like her thinks. But, I will bark back. Too old to keep quiet anymore.

And if you don’t do early morning appointments, you simply say so, and nobody is hurt. Good for you being honest upfront. I also wouldn’t pull a no show on anyone myself. It’s even worse to no show on a provider, costing them money. People should respect other people’s time and money.

I do not want to know where your head is, was or will be....ever

It is completely irrelevant here. You don't have to explain your scheduling quirks to anyone. We all have different circumstances and work with what we have. You're a better man than me because once again, I don't think the "why" matters here at the slightest and I don't ever have to explain why I need an appointment at this time.  

A chick with 65 reviews? Anyway, no harm, no foul.

Guys and gals in the business are all individuals with their own preferences and boundaries.  

I just don't think this is good enough of a repercussion. Not enough consequences to deter the seller from doing it again to anyone else.