TER General Board

You are missing the point as usual, but I digress!
MSHSEX 331 reads
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1 / 42

You can't handle it, at least not directly. Those sites are businesses that have repeatedly demonstrated a lack of desire to proactively fight fake ads or bait and switches (the "EROS Verified" label is laughable).

All you can do is stop patronizing those sites. This action will indirectly send a message that you won't tolerate this treatment.

Posted By: scorpio2734
Guys: How do you handle the growing bait and switch problem?  I don't know if it bothers you as much as me but, for example, there are very few girls left on EROS who are NOT posting phoney photos of themselves.

How do you handle a bait and switch scenario?>  When you are on outcall or incall and you see the girl for the first time, and you realize she is NOWHERE near her photos, what do you do?

Let me know how you're handling it, I'll tell you what I've been up against.  I've been fighting back, and now I understand there's a blacklist for guys who do this.

What is one supposed to do when confronted by Jo Jo the Dogface Girl who has totally misled you, but has succeeded in getting you up to her pad?

Let me know what you think

by the way, if anyone has any question about any of the girls on Eros in terms of their authenticity, please feel free to e mail me, and I'll give you a YES or NO on those girls I know, and I have encountered at least over 100 of them by now

Best to all of you
Scorpio

Scorpio

scorpio2734 16 Reviews 1958 reads
posted
2 / 42

Guys: How do you handle the growing bait and switch problem?  I don't know if it bothers you as much as me but, for example, there are very few girls left on EROS who are NOT posting phoney photos of themselves.

How do you handle a bait and switch scenario?>  When you are on outcall or incall and you see the girl for the first time, and you realize she is NOWHERE near her photos, what do you do?

Let me know how you're handling it, I'll tell you what I've been up against.  I've been fighting back, and now I understand there's a blacklist for guys who do this.

What is one supposed to do when confronted by Jo Jo the Dogface Girl who has totally misled you, but has succeeded in getting you up to her pad?

Let me know what you think

by the way, if anyone has any question about any of the girls on Eros in terms of their authenticity, please feel free to e mail me, and I'll give you a YES or NO on those girls I know, and I have encountered at least over 100 of them by now

Best to all of you
Scorpio

Scorpio

prepkid 1 Reviews 318 reads
posted
3 / 42

That was my largest concern for my first time. But you are exactly right. And this forum exists in the first place to help us hobbyists fight ripoffs and bait and switch. I would personally only contact ladies with many positive and consistent review. Or of course, go with a local agency that is very well respected.

Be careful out there... I will never take any chance.

wrps07 331 reads
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4 / 42

Why waste so much time with so many fakes ? I will not see a eros provider unless I see a TER review. I also check BP because the prices are almost always lower by $50/hour.

swimtrekr 58 Reviews 260 reads
posted
5 / 42

Just because she is paying high dollars for an ad is no guarantee she is who she says she is.  Google the phone number, check the pics, and above all, search for reviews.  If you are having bad luck with EROS girls, I suspect you are not being very thorough in checking them out.  I have seen several girls that use that site, but I did my homework on them before making contact.

Swim

lex90027 248 reads
posted
6 / 42

good question Scorpio,

To " dyke" this " pervasive phenomenon":
 If I had time and resources,I would create a blacklist of those girls, a website with those fake ads, bait and switch... where guys can report and consult...
You enter the girls phone number, email... and it shows up if she's listed or not.
A TER style for " bad" girls only!

Dunno if it already exists or if it's a business idea...certainly retarded like me...

my 0.001 cent on a Sunday afternoon

lungman 10 Reviews 252 reads
posted
7 / 42

you are best off seeing ladies who frequent TER. ( and or, are reviewed here )
My 1st ever date was with an EROS lady, she didn't participate on here, BUT, she was well reviewed on TER. She looked just like her pics and the sex was great.
The women who have a phone # only and no Web-site, i don't give them a second thought. ( if they don't have info readily available for me to view, i pass them by ) If that narrows my options, so be it, it's better than being ripped off.

cspatz 67 Reviews 154 reads
posted
8 / 42

... No TER reviews, no session. End of story.

RRO2610 51 Reviews 235 reads
posted
9 / 42

I'm not doing business with someone who opens with a blatant deception!

rrasha88 See my TER Reviews 237 reads
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10 / 42

The "right click disabled" feature is not activated so you can do a tineye or google image search of the photos.

QueenBia See my TER Reviews 221 reads
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11 / 42
serpius 297 reads
posted
12 / 42

Hey Scorpio,

If you are leery of meeting a provider, I highly recommend that you do what I do.

Meet the provider at some place such as the following places:

Starbucks
Panera Bread
McDonalds
Wendys

You get the idea. That way you can decide for yourself if the provider is legit and matches her posted pictures and information.

Many providers who use hotels will choose hotels that have at least one of the aboved named establishments close by. Just ask the provider which one of those places she likes to meet you at.

Now, if a provider REFUSES to meet you, then a RED FLAG should pop in your head and you'll need to decide at that point whether to continue the communication with the provider or not. If that provider refuses to meet me beforehand, then I just cancel the session and move onto the next provider.

Just my 3 cents...

Serpius

Posted By: scorpio2734
Guys: How do you handle the growing bait and switch problem?  I don't know if it bothers you as much as me but, for example, there are very few girls left on EROS who are NOT posting phoney photos of themselves.

How do you handle a bait and switch scenario?>  When you are on outcall or incall and you see the girl for the first time, and you realize she is NOWHERE near her photos, what do you do?

Let me know how you're handling it, I'll tell you what I've been up against.  I've been fighting back, and now I understand there's a blacklist for guys who do this.

What is one supposed to do when confronted by Jo Jo the Dogface Girl who has totally misled you, but has succeeded in getting you up to her pad?

Let me know what you think

by the way, if anyone has any question about any of the girls on Eros in terms of their authenticity, please feel free to e mail me, and I'll give you a YES or NO on those girls I know, and I have encountered at least over 100 of them by now

Best to all of you
Scorpio

Scorpio

Naomi_Sweets See my TER Reviews 249 reads
posted
14 / 42

the right click is disabled, best you can do is google their phone number and hope it leads you to ads on other sites where you can do the image search.

harborview 10 Reviews 213 reads
posted
15 / 42

The whole point of TER is to provide sources to research.  It is way more effient to start with  TER...  research her ads, web site for pictures, her TER profile & reviews...   Yes, you need VIP to complete the research.   TER IS A REVIEW SITE!!
Sorry, but I can fill a whole bucket list with just a few days of VIP.   Time and again we read these complaints...   I have no sympathy for those who refuse to use the tools offered here.

mrfisher 111 Reviews 327 reads
posted
16 / 42

you should at least run their photos through either Tineye or Google Photos and see if they have stolen them.

If so, move on to the next.

Also, don't try to TOFFT unless you've been involved with hobbying steadily for at least a few years.

Finally, you can also ask about a gal on your local board to see if anyone knows anything about her.

London Rayne See my TER Reviews 363 reads
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17 / 42

providing met someone "beforehand." Duh...you PAY for the date, not before. If a guy wants drinks before, fine but it's understood the clock is ticking. It's a red flag for me when a guy demands I do anything and I don't know many reputable ladies meeting some dude at a freaking Wendy's. Wait, I take that back...the ONLY time I have heard of such nonsense is girls who don't screen will have the guy meet them at a gas station to make sure he is legit (joke), then follow them back to their home or hotel. Sounds trailer park to me. If a guy shows up and is not satisfied, he is free to leave end of story. No cancellation fee, just be on your way.

Guys making you meet them elsewhere is a red flag alright...to us, because when you are in a 4 star hotel you are not going to the damn McDonalds to pick up prospective dates before they pay.

link.taylor 16 Reviews 224 reads
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18 / 42

If you turn off your javascript of your browser the right click disabled feature of the website is disabled.

Posted By: Naomi_Sweets
the right click is disabled, best you can do is google their phone number and hope it leads you to ads on other sites where you can do the image search.

macdaddy1944 51 Reviews 299 reads
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19 / 42

i think our friend serpius left out the local white castle..i always like downing a dozen or so sliders before a session..it makes it that much more intense for both of us..

London Rayne See my TER Reviews 180 reads
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20 / 42

Posted By: macdaddy1944
i think our friend serpius left out the local white castle..i always like downing a dozen or so sliders before a session..it makes it that much more intense for both of us..

lungman 10 Reviews 252 reads
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21 / 42

Maybe the poor guy just has a thing for Frosties!!!...lol.

chocolatefantasygirl See my TER Reviews 251 reads
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22 / 42

If the pics on eros are fake then report them to eros to be removed
http://www.eros.com/disclaimer/dmca

Tineye has an addon for mozilla firefox
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tineye-reverse-image-search/

hope this helps

nahtynikkey See my TER Reviews 176 reads
posted
23 / 42

Ummm.... if a provider agrees to leave her incall location, when you are on the way to a scheduled appointment, THAT should be a red flag. I know some ladies will schedule "meet  & greet" appointments, sometimes to "verify" a gent, or to just see if they click, but most charge for that. A lady willing to just meet you, so you can see if she is real.. I don't think so. I would NEVER go & meet someone just so they can confirm if I am who is pictured(and I have been asked this before) & my pics are very real & recent.

Posted By: serpius
Hey Scorpio,

If you are leery of meeting a provider, I highly recommend that you do what I do.

Meet the provider at some place such as the following places:

Starbucks
Panera Bread
McDonalds
Wendys

You get the idea. That way you can decide for yourself if the provider is legit and matches her posted pictures and information.

Many providers who use hotels will choose hotels that have at least one of the aboved named establishments close by. Just ask the provider which one of those places she likes to meet you at.

Now, if a provider REFUSES to meet you, then a RED FLAG should pop in your head and you'll need to decide at that point whether to continue the communication with the provider or not. If that provider refuses to meet me beforehand, then I just cancel the session and move onto the next provider.

Just my 3 cents...

Serpius
Posted By: scorpio2734
Guys: How do you handle the growing bait and switch problem?  I don't know if it bothers you as much as me but, for example, there are very few girls left on EROS who are NOT posting phoney photos of themselves.

How do you handle a bait and switch scenario?>  When you are on outcall or incall and you see the girl for the first time, and you realize she is NOWHERE near her photos, what do you do?

Let me know how you're handling it, I'll tell you what I've been up against.  I've been fighting back, and now I understand there's a blacklist for guys who do this.

What is one supposed to do when confronted by Jo Jo the Dogface Girl who has totally misled you, but has succeeded in getting you up to her pad?

Let me know what you think

by the way, if anyone has any question about any of the girls on Eros in terms of their authenticity, please feel free to e mail me, and I'll give you a YES or NO on those girls I know, and I have encountered at least over 100 of them by now

Best to all of you
Scorpio

Scorpio

QueenBia See my TER Reviews 230 reads
posted
24 / 42

Let's be real modern day & age realist individuals whom are of sound & mind...

jodycalledu 23 Reviews 269 reads
posted
25 / 42

A red flag for what? Someone that's been burned before by photoshop queens or fake and misleading ads?

Posted By: London Rayne
Guys making you meet them elsewhere is a red flag alright...to us, because when you are in a 4 star hotel you are not going to the damn McDonalds to pick up prospective dates before they pay.

margomatisse See my TER Reviews 211 reads
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26 / 42

In fact, I do prefer to start things off in a public setting, not only for safety reasons, but also just so we can have some time to chit chat and so my client can clearly see that I am who I say I am without the pressure of being in private.

But a meeting at Mickey D's? That leaves a bad taste in my mouth...and not just because I'm a vegetarian!

I mean, if the plan is to meet at an upscale hotel, chances are I'm going to be dressed in business casual attire. I just think that would be out of place at a fast food restaurant.

TrulyMsMocha See my TER Reviews 147 reads
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27 / 42
serpius 222 reads
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28 / 42

Hello Margo,

The places that I have listed are just suggestions, not required establishments. If you and the hobbyist agree to meet at a fancy restaurant, by all means do so. My point of my posting is to give people another option to verify each other. Nothing more than that.

For some reason, a few have taken my posting to extreme opposites.

A few have said that, "I am not going to waste my time meeting someone to verify that person".

Well, why not? If I am going to drop $400 on a provider, I'd better be damned sure that this provider is who she says that she is. If it's a fake... then I have kept my $400 to use it on a REAL verified provider who is willing to meet me somewhere to be verified FACE to FACE. It's the protection of BOTH parties in question.

A few providers have stated that "I am losing money by meeting someone for a face to face verification'. I will ask you ONE question: Do you prefer to meet an UNKNOWN person face to face to protect your own LIFE and SAFETY? The way you answer that question will tell me how much you value your life and safety. I, myself, value my life and safety.

I don't care if that provider is will reviewed and is staying at a 5 star hotel. Many years ago, I was ripped off by those so-called high end providers. Hence, the reason for my post.

If you folks don't understand that simple concept, I will NOT feel sorry if your ass ends up in jail or worse because of LACK of verification.

DUH!!!

Serpius

Posted By: margomatisse
In fact, I do prefer to start things off in a public setting, not only for safety reasons, but also just so we can have some time to chit chat and so my client can clearly see that I am who I say I am without the pressure of being in private.

But a meeting at Mickey D's? That leaves a bad taste in my mouth...and not just because I'm a vegetarian!

I mean, if the plan is to meet at an upscale hotel, chances are I'm going to be dressed in business casual attire. I just think that would be out of place at a fast food restaurant.

London Rayne See my TER Reviews 228 reads
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29 / 42

to realize it at the door of her hotel room vs. a damn pit stop? You still drove all the way out there, but either way don't pay! It's not rocket science! If I had some dude demand that I leave my comfy hotel to pay for a cab (I fly) to a random location to meiet him before a date, it would scream LE or just some guy who is overly paranoid.

Second, how many married men here never take a lady in public at all and demand incall only for this very reason? They can't risk being seen with some random girl in public. If you have that many issues with this, don't see women you are unsure about...done deal.

Posted By: jodycalledu
A red flag for what? Someone that's been burned before by photoshop queens or fake and misleading ads?
Posted By: London Rayne
Guys making you meet them elsewhere is a red flag alright...to us, because when you are in a 4 star hotel you are not going to the damn McDonalds to pick up prospective dates before they pay.

London Rayne See my TER Reviews 211 reads
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30 / 42

for accommodations is now expected to also pay for a cab to go meet some jackwad at a hamburger shack? Bwahahaha...only one desperate for money. There is no difference in meeting at the door of the room and not paying as there is meeting elsewhere and not paying. The guy still drove all the way out there regardless so if he is not happy when he arrives, bye bye.

A woman is more likely to throw a screne at some ghetto location than at a luxury hotel that's for damn sure, and you're in public with this fool. Most men have the common sense to realize this. The only women I have heard of doing this are as I said, those who think a meet and greet is screening...then they cuff them right at a Starbucks because "showing up" means intent.

martythewall 36 Reviews 138 reads
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31 / 42

we have repeatedly not wanted to tolerate things on this site but they do as they wish.  I find eros a joke and never look there, haveing spent time there in the past. they will stay because they make money of the adds.  Ter Makes money of both adds and us.

London Rayne See my TER Reviews 224 reads
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32 / 42

Whether you meet her in public or in private, you still are not required to spend your money if you are not happy...end of story. BOTH ways you still wasted your time driving out to meet her, so what's the point of having her be in a random location? If she is LE, you are busted at any place you show up...look it up. If you are LE, she is also busted any place she arrives at.

Having a provider be verified before you meet her, is retarded but good luck with that lol. I won't be leaving my comfy surroundings for any guy who is not paying me to show up period and the ONLY time I have ever been asked to do so is when the guy is a time waster and trying to get out of paying or getting extra time. Would I meet a regular off the clock before? You betcha, but not some random dude I don't know from Adam on the first go round!

If you have that much trouble being ripped off, learn to shop better BEFORE.

London Rayne See my TER Reviews 218 reads
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33 / 42

I am sorry but some people need to get better educated on the law when trying to convince newbies that meeting someone at a coffee shop in any way protects them lmao! This is the very reason providers don't meet anywhere but the location, because it's bs! If a cop is setting you up duh..he can cuff you NO MATTER WHERE YOU MEET HIM..same with providers working for LE. "Intent" is showing up...period, end of story. This is why when providers do the ole "meet me at the coffee shop" vs. screening routine, they are very naive.

It is NOT more safe to meet in public vs. private...period! You think a serial killer is going to let you know he is that before he takes you up to the room? Bwahahaha...brilliant advice! Either way you spin it, if you have not done your homework beforehand, you should not be meeting the provider. If you still have questions and have to demand she meet you in public, you are better off just not wasting your time on that one at all. If am leary about meeting a guy, I simply don't meet him. No public meeting is going to make me feel any more comfortable if I have not screened him before.

IronRooster 13 Reviews 151 reads
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34 / 42

I'm not Mac-savvy so my apologies if that is your system:

1) Install Firefox with No Script, Tineye and the TER plugin. Learn how to use them. This should be your default browser.
2) Install Google Chrome with Tineye, Kill Evil (and Ghostery and Do Not Track while yer at it). Kill Evil will allow some Javascript and re-enable right-clicking and other functions that piss us all off.

In response to OP, "only go to TER reviewed providers" is not bad advice but depending on your area, may limit you and it cuts out those TOFTT finds!

Search TER, Tineye, Google Images. Search phone #s on google, add key words (massage, escort, anything unique from the add) to narrow results.

If still interested, contact provider and ask if pics are recent/real. If in doubt, ask for new pic, maybe giving you the finger or making the peace sign (saw that in someone else's post -- good idea.) She has every right to refuse but if you are respectful and she is legit, she should agree, especially if she charges over $200.

Will it eliminate what could be some great providers? Sure. But it's more likely to eliminate B&S and may even set the tone when you complement her on an adorable/hawt pic.

serpius 191 reads
posted
35 / 42

NahtyNikkey,

So, just because YOU say that your pictures are real and recent that I am supposed to automatically take your word for it? Nope. That doesn't work in the real world.

I don't know what world you are from, but when I am thinking of safety and placing a deal of value on my life, I'd go with a meet to verify you. If you refuse, it's your money that you just threw away.

All of the providers over the years have always agreed to meet me for a "verification" meet.

Takes 5 minutes or less. We both walk back to the hotel which is usually next door, then we go do our business. I've only had to turn down ONE provider who did not look like her pictures. No provider has turned me down when they met me.

This is my way for doing the personalized verification for my own life and safety. If you providers don't agree with this, move on. Don't worry about it.

Serpius

Posted By: nahtynikkey
Ummm.... if a provider agrees to leave her incall location, when you are on the way to a scheduled appointment, THAT should be a red flag. I know some ladies will schedule "meet  & greet" appointments, sometimes to "verify" a gent, or to just see if they click, but most charge for that. A lady willing to just meet you, so you can see if she is real.. I don't think so. I would NEVER go & meet someone just so they can confirm if I am who is pictured(and I have been asked this before) & my pics are very real & recent.
Posted By: serpius
Hey Scorpio,

If you are leery of meeting a provider, I highly recommend that you do what I do.

Meet the provider at some place such as the following places:

Starbucks
Panera Bread
McDonalds
Wendys

You get the idea. That way you can decide for yourself if the provider is legit and matches her posted pictures and information.

Many providers who use hotels will choose hotels that have at least one of the aboved named establishments close by. Just ask the provider which one of those places she likes to meet you at.

Now, if a provider REFUSES to meet you, then a RED FLAG should pop in your head and you'll need to decide at that point whether to continue the communication with the provider or not. If that provider refuses to meet me beforehand, then I just cancel the session and move onto the next provider.

Just my 3 cents...

Serpius
Posted By: scorpio2734
Guys: How do you handle the growing bait and switch problem?  I don't know if it bothers you as much as me but, for example, there are very few girls left on EROS who are NOT posting phoney photos of themselves.

How do you handle a bait and switch scenario?>  When you are on outcall or incall and you see the girl for the first time, and you realize she is NOWHERE near her photos, what do you do?

Let me know how you're handling it, I'll tell you what I've been up against.  I've been fighting back, and now I understand there's a blacklist for guys who do this.

What is one supposed to do when confronted by Jo Jo the Dogface Girl who has totally misled you, but has succeeded in getting you up to her pad?

Let me know what you think

by the way, if anyone has any question about any of the girls on Eros in terms of their authenticity, please feel free to e mail me, and I'll give you a YES or NO on those girls I know, and I have encountered at least over 100 of them by now

Best to all of you
Scorpio

Scorpio

London Rayne See my TER Reviews 181 reads
posted
37 / 42

does not in ANY way make you safer. If she is a cop, you are busted right there. If she is some psycho with a pimp who wants to rob you, they are not going to jump you right there. Where do you people come up with this retarded logic? Please go do some research on what a cop needs to arrest you before you claim meeting in public is any safter than meeting in private. What are you going to do...ask for her ID? If not, then your rationale is ludicrous and the advice you are giving even moreso, but since you have already admitted on the Ohio board that you also "never paid a provider until after the date," this is not exactly a shocker. I know you have me on ignore, but others can still read this ha ha. Welcome to GD where the big boys play.

London Rayne See my TER Reviews 88 reads
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38 / 42
Big-Bad-John 152 reads
posted
39 / 42

Confusing the hobby with dating. I don't know how many times these confused individuals end up with a "help, I have fallen for a provider" thread.

Yeah, retarded is accurate.

carmen4111 176 reads
posted
40 / 42

Okay folks its wrong for a chick to use someone else's pictures except PROSTITUTION in this shit country is Still Illegal. Also many escorts,callgirls and Hooker's are fearful of the nasty backlash from local media,losing kids in a custody battle. Not to mention once your branded a "Hooker" like a "fag" or "Nigger". You are branded for life in the same category as a "Child Molester". Now guys what would you think if you met a girl who said she use to be a call girl like five years ago or a porn star? Most guys would date the former porn star not a "Whore". Because men always think that whore's are "Dirty,"nasty and only good for using for sex..Right? Now say that to our face..because we could blacklist your can for days,months! Lol..Seriously many females see this as an opportunity to make a nice living or to supplement their income. If it's found out you will be shamed..Look at Daria Saurez the call-girl from Columbia who is ties into the Secret service scandal. No man will want to date her publicly because his family may dis-own him for bringing such a skank into their home..Housewives and girl friends certainly feel that we are nothing to cry over when one of us is killed...Stop being harsh with the ladies who do.. I frost out my face and remind people on my website that I have a private life. A client once approached me last year with my family during christmas 2011..Shocker! I gave him a dirty look...and he backed off. Ladies try to use your pictures or just remove your head...and conceal birthmarks...

misskittykat1 154 reads
posted
41 / 42

I totally agree.  My safety is on the line, and I will do anything in order to stay out of harm's way.  I will gladly meet a trick at a safe location, i.e., coffee shop, etc.,  before the actual date - in order to make sure the situation is safe.  There is nothing more dangerous than entering a room with someone sight unseen, not knowing who he is.

Posted By: margomatisse
In fact, I do prefer to start things off in a public setting, not only for safety reasons, but also just so we can have some time to chit chat and so my client can clearly see that I am who I say I am without the pressure of being in private.

But a meeting at Mickey D's? That leaves a bad taste in my mouth...and not just because I'm a vegetarian!

I mean, if the plan is to meet at an upscale hotel, chances are I'm going to be dressed in business casual attire. I just think that would be out of place at a fast food restaurant.

scorpio2734 16 Reviews 183 reads
posted
42 / 42

I think one of the things that can be done is to put pressure on sites like Eros, Cityvibe and Backpage...back in the day, Eros used to verify photos...they stopped.  

There should be some onus on these sites to be responsible for those who advertise on it...

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