On two occasions a provider texted me asking where I left the donation AFTER the session was over and I left her place. Both times I left it in the kitchen. After some stressful back and forth they found it.. Both times I took a shower after leaving the donation in the kitchen. So I just assumed they would look for it while I was in the shower.

If it were a scam, she couldn't follow through with it by saying she's found it.

took it with you.  If they don't ask for it up front, I will leave it by the bathroom sink and on the way out, I tell them, "I left something for you by the bathroom sink."  I think if you say these exact words, they will almost always find it.  

and we start to get acquainted and remove our clothes, I'll take it out of my pocket or bag, show it to her and put it on a nightstand or dresser.

on a table or the dresser. I generally try to place it there when the lady can actually see me doing it and will also see it just a a matter of course as we're either undressing or getting dressed. Sometimes I'll just put it under their cell phone so they cannot miss it.

in proximity of other providers.. If it's a situation where there are more women, I would just give it to her.. I also like larger bills. Easy to count 4 x 100s than  20 x 20s. Don't even need to count really, you can just eyeball it.  

What I have usually done is to bury the donation inside a bag of supplies for the session and present it at session’s end, especially if seeing one whom I have seen before.

Like what kind of bag?   Backpack? , Duffel Bag, Suitcase? One of those bags that the homeless carry?  

so, just follow that.

Almost always it is in an envelope with a card in it.  I've used holiday cards at times but usually use a card from some tree huger organization that says a tree is being planted in their name.  I actually do plant a tree later, but I plant dozens every year so no biggie.   Often she opens it when I use the bathroom and this becomes a great convo starter.  With repeats, I've put pictures of their tree in the envelope.   Of course, I often forget which tree is for whom except for the exceptional.

LOL.  You probably got blacklisted and don't even know it.  

I usually place it on the dresser or nightstand in the bedroom as I walk into the room. Never leave it in a shared space with others.  If she hasn't already grabbed the envelope, as I walk out I say thank you and point to the envelope as I leave.  I make no bones about this being a financial transaction.  She usually thanks me back with a smile or kiss.  I'm not looking to get BL over stupidity.  

I was initially subtle in placing the envelope.  Then at the start of one session the provider ahem'd me and asked me if I forgot something.  I had to point to the envelope on the desk.  She hadn't seen me put it there.   After that I stopped putting it in an envelope or being subtle about it.  Now I set it down when I know they are looking. I very obviously take it out of my wallet, count it quickly, and put it on whatever surface is nearby, as she watches.  I do make exceptions for any specific directions, such as them explicitly wanting it in an envelope.  But I place the envelope while they watch.  No more subtlety.

LOL, so you're joking, right?

Why would you have to justify to anyone how you carry your money?
Especially if it's only a few hundred dollars.
And the banks hand out envelopes all day long, if you want one.

Either messenger or shopping!
Depends on what I have to carry.

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You make a lot of valid points..  

MOST people can accommodate minor variations to their SOP but some hostesses get flustered by the slightest deviation. Kind of like baseball players who have their pre-batting rituals.  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnvjWPmmFRQ
You never know when you might be meeting someone with a hair trigger.  
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So I try to come as close as I can to my hostess's preferred method except that I prefer to use a book or magazine over an envelope. That way, I can hand it to her and say something like, "I bookmarked an interesting article (chapter) that I think you'll enjoy." as I head to the shower.  
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Anticipating a Q, yes, I have had more than one hostess not "get" my message, put the magazine aside without looking inside and asking me at the end about the donation.

It doesn't matter.  There is a good chance that she might have acted instinctively and just blacklisted you immediately at the same time that she notified her assistant.  Once she did that even though it was a misunderstanding and she got her donation it would be too late ... she cannot revoke it.  Prolly 70/30 that you are blacklisted.  

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You really need to start seeing a better class of people. I cannot think of any agencies I've been with that would do that to someone that has been a steady -- or even a new -- customer in that situation. I've had the impression that the LA ones are pretty similar to what we have here.

My donation etiquette is to have the gentleman put the envelope in the bathroom counter so that I can count it discretely before our time together. Sometimes they put it on a desk or nightstand in full view so I can see it and then I discretely count it in the restroom. The envelope should be dealt with before your time together so that it's out of the way and you can both just focus on having fun

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Umm ... this has nothing to do with me.  I am just calling a spade a spade.  If the lady was flaky enough to miss the envelope and snap to notifying he booking assistant then she probably had the same knee jerk reaction and blacklisted him.  Why would she care?  She could still see him even though she blacklisted him if he made her whole because he would likely never find out that he was blacklisted and it likely wouldn't trade back to her anyways.

Yes I count it after they put it on the bathroom counter and leave the bathroom. And yes sometimes I get the occasional gentleman who puts it on the desk and doesn't follow my etiquette.

Really?

She didn't miss any envelope; she just opened the second one first!  
You understand that; 2nd 1 1st. I didn't want it too confusing LOL!

So right!

So a guy comes in, goes to take a shower and leaves it on the sink, then when he comes out you go in to get it?

Yes it's overly complicated, you're so right. I made this system before the SESTA/FOSTA thing that shut down TER. I was really worried about coming in contact with a cop. So I came up with this so that I could count the money discretely, and then leave it there. Because I've heard of women who were arrested as soon as they moved the money.  

I can't speak for all states, but in the ones I am familiar with all it takes is "intent". No money needs to change hands.  

I usually give the white envelope straight to them. There's no allusion to me what I'm doing, and there's no like "interrupting" the moment for me. It's like wrestler, I know it's fake but git damn it's fun.

My strategy as well. Never have had any issues.

Twice i have had clients leave with out leaving the donation and they both came back. Once a client left less than he should have and never came back. So i have been pretty lucky.

I usually have the envelope in my shirt pocket. As soon as we exchanged greetings I take it out of my shirt pocket and set it down somewhere like on the dresser or whatever is nearby, saying “I’ll just leave this here.”

When you & a provider are in a bedroom together...........You should show her that you have it and show her where you placed it (This should stop all problems).

I have a tray on the dresser to leave it in, I did use a leather envelope til covid hit .  I realized it was just easier for a person to lay it in the tray as I do ask them to, then no one is messing with an envelope. When my session is over,  I leave, I take it out of the room with me. This avoids weirdness, & I have had a few people over the years, not put enough IN the envelopes, harder to do if it's visable in a tray. I always walk my guys out to the door.Hopsitality is #1 with me, along with great service  a very clean place!