and yes there have been many such posts on the subject, ranging from how great, liberating, etc the life of a hooker is, to how oppressive, lonely, degrading etc the life of a different hooker is.

Why is this so important to you? You realize that if you get a hundred different women to respond you are going to get a hundred different perspectives on the subject, none of them are going to be right, and none of them are going to be wrong, each one will simply be one woman's POV.

if you hang out here long enough and read what that gals say on various subjects that come up, you'll get a pretty good picture.  Let's see what the gals say by way of reply.

Just like any job it has it's perks and it's downfalls. Building a work/life balance is key in anything you do.

I would find that statement highly insulting, it infers that they are not willing participants here and that they must be "damaged goods" with deep dark secrets to hide.

This is from my POV and shouldn't be taken as fact for every single Provider.

and why is it that us "assholes" are the ones willing to accept hookers for what they are, "simply women who do this for a living, no better and no worse than anybody else" and it's the so called "nice guys" that are completely clueless and either look up to them as goddesses or down on them as somehow broken or damaged?

and yeah it sucks trying to post via phone. I have a hard enough time even using my I Pad.

A lot of people on this board think I'm strange because I like the fantasy. In fact I have dozens of fantasies I like to explore during sessions. Some involve bondage, sometimes role-play-- but probably not what is generally referred to as role-play-- blindfolded sessions. Sessions where we only communicate with abstract sound and movements, no talking, miming, or gesturing. Those can be intense and few women "get it." And other experiments of a heavier note.

I'll lay you ten to one it wasn't

I bet you that jack secretly or not so secretly thinks that all hookers were raped as children, were turned out by some abusive pimp, or some other horror story instead of the much more common answer "I needed to make some money, I like sex, so WTF, I decided to try this" Not very titillating but a lot more common story here.

Thank you for proving me right, WB aren't you glad you didn't take those ten to one odds I was offering?

and for the record, I am not omnipotent. I've just seen thousands of guys just like you who can't believe that a woman would choose this line of work of her own free will. I bet you are the type who not only feels sorry for "these poor women" but I bet you feel a little dirty after being with one of them as well, don't you? You most likely feel a bit guilty for doing this as well, don't you. I feel sorry for you, living in that big glass house of yours.

WB is honest at least, he wants the fantasy and doesn't want reality interfering with the fantasy he is paying for, You OTOH are just pitiful IMO How do you live with yourself after being a part of the abuse these women receive on a daily basis?

Oh and for the record I can't speak for twelve year old girls, but I would have killed at twelve years old to know I would be getting this much pussy at this stage of my life

I was writing the same Fucking thing and you jumped me.  That's the 3rd time.  Drawbacks to using a phone for this, I guess.

...not all deep dark secrets create damaged goods. The woman who made a living playing Hedda Gabler and Yerma with a touring rep company that eventual lost its endowment and took up the escort thing might have had a pretty dark financial crash that she wanted to keep secret, but she certainly wasn't damaged goods. Just a really great lover at heart, and a cheerful, happy person too boot.

Some see a glass half empty; some see one half full.

and that's because I have seen thousands of guys here just like you. One or two sentences is all it takes to show how you really feel.

As for using hooker, hooker is just a word, I don't object to the word "john" You and CPA really need to talk. lol

With those guys too.  Either they hate themselves for seeing hookers and feel unworthy of having a hot chick fuck them; so they create a back-story that she must be damaged in some way.

You must be omnipotent. I bow to your greatness. I was merely pointing out that for some ladies, the reasons are not good ones. I never said or implied "all hookers" were anything. But I am sure some are forced into the business, some get in because they feel there is no other way for them and yes, some of them were abused. Honestly, at 12 years old, how many said "When I grow up, I wanna be a prostitiute?"

...maybe the term "damaged goods" is what I don't like. It seems like to me, that in this economy, there probably ARE a lot of sad stories out there, but most of them have to do with surviving in a world their previous lives didn't design them for.

You pedantic putz. lmao

I actually started to write Imply, and then I thought of you and changed my mind. Now don't you have chicas to fuck?

and yes I will be back next week sometime. but you won't know that because I have it on good authority (Turdy) that you aren't even there, and I have to believe him over my own eyes, don't I?

There are many awesome escort blogs out there, which can give you a good picture of all that, from many different perspectives.  You will not likely find much of that written candidly on an advertising forum board.
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at least that's what I call most of my Mexican friends. Even some of my friends from Costa Rica if there English is good enough to get the irony.

Funny only a handful of people remember my real name in Costa Rica, but almost everybody in the places I frequent knows who Chinito is. Sorry, but I just don't find labels, especially those used in jest that offensive.  Looking down on people because you think they must be damaged goods to do what they do, yes that I find offensive.

I've said it before and I stand by it, the more politically correct someone is, the more likely that person is to be a closet bigot.

and no, even GaGambler the omnipotent is not going to claim to know WHY he thinks like he does, I am content to be proven right about HOW he thinks. Knowing why would require caring, which I most certainly do not.

And now you have read two whole sentences from me and you have concluded you've "seen thousands of guys" just like me. Gee, you seem to have a habit of lumping people all in to a nicely shaped, square box, don't you? And it's you that refers to them as "hookers" which I would be willing to bet most women in escorting would find "insulting", no? But I guess you are the grand arbiter of what is insulting and what isn't to the ladies in this field. Good to know.

Or at least you used to be able to, before TER created the ad boards, but I would still think that the regional boards would be more threAD friendly than the national boards which have always had a "no ad" policy, not that it seems to stop anybody, but some threADs are more entertaining than others.

The statement to which Gag refers "implies" hookers are ashamed, it does not "infer" it.  Conan has tried to instruct GaG on the proper usage of infer vs. imply but the dill-weed can't seem to get it. He is thus sentenced to take Conan The Grammarian's course in "English Usage 101" which starts next week at Conan's beach-side campus in Jaco next week.  Don't worry, until then feel free to consume as many "Chinitos" as you would like.
Now go sit in the corner, GaG, and study the examples below.
Oh, and FYATWYRIO. LMAO.

But I prefer "Hispanic", and I think they do too, lol.

I've had the opportunity to observe the world of hookers from the New York area, in Las Vegas and, more recently, for an extended period in Costa Rica.  And, while I'm sure there are some with "painful" reasons for being in this game, it just doesn't seem to be true for most of them.
Here in CR, as in "El Norte," the majority seem to be damn happy with their lives.  They seem to love being one of "the hot chicks," and relish being party girls who flout the norms of society.  This is especially true up north where it's illegal.  Lord, they are fun to be around.

And don't try to weasel off the hook by saying you did it on purpose, you sound like......

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And as for the fantasy thing, this is apples and oranges. Sometimes... I repeat, SOMETIMES, I really do want to explore the reality. Sometimes the no-fantasy is keeping it real. I present as, "I will gladly trade American currency for sex," and SHE presents as, "Give me your money; here is your sex." And we carry that scenario wherever it happens to go. So, yes, SOMETIMES the fantasy and reality are closely linked. Neither of us are deluded. We know we are playacting and we know we are in an escort/client contractual agreement.

It's my pet peeve when people judge others preferences, unless they involve non-consensual or under age sex, or violence.  I don't like what you like.  So what?  It's your fantasy.  Own it and have fun.

Anyway, that's what most of the barmaids at the Cocal seem to think.

can sometimes be considered as advertising which you're not supposed to do here. One can't just start a thread "oh and here's my experience from yesterday."

...that in some way I care, but mostly I just like to figure out puzzles.

albeit in a different area of the county, but still have to agreed 100% that they are a hell of a lot of fun to be with.

OP needs to find a new friend named Google and search more thoroughly

To say none of the women are damaged or to say all of them are damaged are equally absurd statements. It would seem like you and your GF GaG don't know the definition of the word "some." The original poster was looking for answers as to the "real" story about escorting and I merely pointed out one reason he may not get the desired responses from the ladies who frequent this board is because they are embarrassed as to the real reason or it is hurtful for them to do so. Just one possibility of many boys. No use having a hissy fit about it. Unless hissy fits are your thing, then hissy fit away! lol

I get my cash directly from the bank before a session so I'm guessing  there's very little chance of that being fake

You can only speak for a VERY small fraction of the ones you do know. Your observations are anecdotal at best. You may be correct and you may be wrong. But you and I agree that "some" have painful reasons for being in this game. That's really all I was saying from the git go.

Holy shit DC. It's sooooo true. I think it happens to younger providers more. Sometimes they don't even realize they're going through a checklist.
Boyfriend? (code for pimp)
Are your parents and family still in Ethiopia? (code for I must be carrying the burden of supporting my starving family)
and on and on… because surely there was a cause and me providing was the effect.

The more he defends his position, the more he proves just how right I was about him.

I am sure WB is thrilled he didn't take my bet, and what's funny is WB doesn't even like me, but he recognizes the truth when it's right in front of him.

My guess is that providers see mostly guys significantly older than themselves and probably not in the "hot guy" category.  Hot guys the age of providers should be getting all their nooky for free by the bushel.  Provider's real feelings about seeing us older, balder (but in good shape) guys would probably be counter-productive to their income stream.

-meeting attractive guys & girls
-meeting reallllly attractive guys & girls  

we're inferring based on our data set which happens to be quite large… like our… Wallets.  LOL.  

I love giving pleasure and receiving pleasure.  

In the immortal words of Jack, "you can't handle the truth" and that holds true for most hobbyists, especially the captain save a ho types.

I've known, dated, been friends with and lived with enough hookers over the last forty years that the mystery has been gone for me for decades. I like the reality, and I don't have any need for rose colored glasses. I love sex and the fact that I am getting it from real living and breathing human being with lives outside of this "hobby" doesn't bother me in the slightest.

Yes, my personal experiences are anecdotal just like everyone else's, but my sample size could populate a small city. lol and why a woman would want to "bare her soul" here just to satisfy the idle curiosity of some anonymous john is beyond me.

And as for my observations being "anecdotal at best," thanks for your statement of the obvious. However, my observations are based on much more than "a VERY small faction of the ones I do know."  This is an incorrect assumption on your part because you have no idea on what I've based my observations.  So, let me enlighten you.
I am NOT basing them simply on the girls I've had sessions with.  I have attended numerous Meet & Greets in the States where I was able to mingle with and meet literally hundreds of girls.  I have spent hours in Costa Rica "ho-tels" like The Cocal in Jaco and The Del Rey in San Jose.  At those two places I've observed and talked to hundreds of girls from all over Latin America.  I've watched them drinking, talking, singing and partying together.  And I think I know when people are just flat-out having fun.
Here's a little more texture.  The Cocal throws a monthly party for the girls, to show it's appreciation for the fact that they're the reason the hotel is always booked solid.  There's a buffet that's "girls only," a raffle, and Karaoke contest.  The girls are drinking free, eating free and cheering each other on.  It's a lot of fun to watch them having fun.
My point is that my "sample" is actually quite large.  And don't make too much of the fact that I concede some in this game are here for painful reasons.  You made that the entire burden of your post.  I made it clear I felt it was a small percentage of the people I've observed.
I hope that's all clearer now.

You will receive from him....

At meet and greets? You really think you are going to get any valid info about how much "fun" a girl is having in the biz at a meet & greet or any of your other interactions with them? You are delusional son. You've never witnessed a co-worker having a bad day in a job they hate, then go clubbing all night, seemingly having the time of their life, but knowing deep down they are miserable??? Same thing goes for this p4p world. Of COURSE they are going to SEEM to have the time of their life at those events. Isn't it part of their job to get you to part with your money? You REALLY think some girl is going to drone on and on how she was raped at age 15? Think that might be a boner killer? Look dude, you fucked a lot of girls, I get it. You partied with a few, I get that. But to say you have any real insight into a girls happiness from a few meetings is absurd.

Time Together.  What's embarrassing is that I'm usually awake when I have them.

and be accused of anything and everything from being a man hating bitch to posting a self-promoting AD, I'd be very surprised to see much in the way of the self-disclosuer of personal, behind the scenes experiences on TER.  

First of all, you have clearly never been to a Meet & Greet.  And I'm quite sure you've never been to Central America.  Why is it you can't accept you don't know everything?  But, hell, if you can't can't accept a different perspective based on observations of more than a thousand girls (as well as having had hundreds of sessions on top of that), then I won't waste any more time with you.
And, btw, who said that just because they were actually seeming to have fun at these events they never had a bad day?  Don't put words in my mouth or thoughts in my head.  I simply said they were having fun at the time.
Beyond that, I have actual friendships with a number of girls (and have screened for one) who've shared information on how they really feel about what they do.  And it's all consistent with my premise.
Sorry you have such a closed mind.

I spoke to her a few hours ago.

Poor thing living a life of abject poverty, it took her months to save up the money to go get her boobs done, this in a country where the average person makes less than a grand a month, this 21 year old girl manages to save four grand to get her boobs done. poor unhappy girl I bet you she turned to this because she was abused as a child too.

Mind? No. I love it. Sure I'm not the only girl to tickle herself to her reviews It's literotica, staring ME :

How do I get some of THAT?

Because all three words together become an adjective, requiring hyphenation.  Then again, The Cunning Linguist points out that Save A Ho is a name, not an adjective.  So thanks for confusing the shit out of two long-dead aliases, fucker!

are extremely unhappy and living lives of abject misery.
PS: No sign of Joselyn or Danielle for about two weeks.  Or Miss Ray Ban.

Of course in my book that's a compliment, not an insult.

Hookers are my favorite people, and uppity usually means you don't take shit, another one of my favorite character traits. So uppity hooker sounds like a good thing to me.

and yes I am sure there are some really heartbreaking stories out there, but why anyone of those women would want to share something so personal with a bunch of losers who would probably jerk off while reading it is beyond me

But your one of those guys that still proly thinks SwingsBothWays was really a chick, right?

And she looked miserable the last time I saw her, too, at El Hicaco, about to have a wonderful dinner at a beach on the Pacific.  And, no, she wasn't paying for it.  Hell, she was probably being paid so some clown could watch her eat it.

Not only have I noticed, but outside being deaf, dumb, blind, and completely obtuse what other conclusion could I possibly draw?  

but DC and I like you, but we're assholes lol

I know I get a big kick out of making some of the more sensitive, arrogant, or just plain stupid posters here, mad beyond belief over some of the rather stupid shit we argue about here. I can almost here them literally screaming at their computer's monitor as they type their responses to me they are so fucking angry, Do you get the same kick out of pissing these guys off that I do?

...and as such reluctant to post the story of their lives. I myself am reluctant to post the story of my life because the anonymity offered here is one of the things I like about the board. That aside, I really, honestly, do suspect that there are not just some but a LOT of sad storied due to economic reasons. Some may be tied into issues of divorce, poor childhood, teenage rebellion having gotten out of control, whatever. But economic survival was probably responsible for most of those reasons why women adopted the lifestyle, and BECAUSE the recession and general economic uncertainty, along with changes in available jobs, my guess would be that many of the women could tell some horrid stories about how their financial picture led them to take up their present craft.

Other days, I actually work at it. It's just so fun sometimes

I just have no motivation to cushion male egos (on TER, or anywhere else). It's very liberating. I'd burn my bra if I was wearing one....lol...Scratch that: bras are too fucking expensive to burn these days.  

It was a joke, you colossal tool.
And how do you know how old she is?  Oh, I forgot, you know everything.
PS: If it's Amanda Seyfried, she's in her 20s.

And if she's closer to 30 than 17 like BCG is saying, yes I'd slam it till dawn.

under control.  You are to be applauded for mastering this at your young age.

Called JackassDumphuk.
So, let's take this one lame point at a time.  And....I'll...write....really.....slow....for....you.
1) Yes, I've got more than a few provider friends as well as mongers.  Just because you're incapable of making friends in this world doesn't mean it can't be done.  Work real hard at imagining yourself out of the tiny little box you've got yourself locked in, because it's warped your tiny mind.
2) I don't "think" swings is really a chick.  I know it for an absolute fact.  It's none of your business, Jackass, how I know this and if you think I care if you believe me, well, you have me confused with someone who gives a fuck.
You are officially 0 for 2 on this post.  Care to swing again?
You should prolly just sit down and STFU, before, like Minnie Tardwell, you fall below The Mendoza Line.

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At least that's what he wrote on the Newbie Board a couple of days ago.  So much for his credibility in knowing anything about how they feel about their job or if they have "painful" pasts.
Could he be any more ludicrous?

Film at 11.

Sorry, not so. We see…or namely speaking for myself, many young guys, many young and single guys. Many young, single and attractive guys. People hobby for all sorts of reasons. That said my favorites are usually not those guys. I like my older baldies. Better in bed and more chivalry.