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escalade1964 65 Reviews 1337 reads
posted
1 / 35

What did I do to be branded as such to you?

It has come to my attention, that I have been put on a "Blacklist"

Can you put somebody on such a list without seeing them?
Do you put them on a list so they will perhaps only see you?
Do you see hobbyist that are blacklisted?

Sorry for so many questions but I'm a bit nervous providers will no longer see me.

Your thoughts if any?

Here_I_Go 705 reads
posted
2 / 35

... How do we know that this is just not more attention-seeking drama?.  Honestly, this stuff is just too much.  

Posted By: escalade1964
What did I do to be branded as such to you?  
   
 It has come to my attention, that I have been put on a "Blacklist"  
   
 Can you put somebody on such a list without seeing them?  
 Do you put them on a list so they will perhaps only see you?  
 Do you see hobbyist that are blacklisted?  
   
 Sorry for so many questions but I'm a bit nervous providers will no longer see me.  
   
 Your thoughts if any?

inicky46 61 Reviews 581 reads
posted
3 / 35

and a simple search would easily bring up lots of threads with all the needed info.

ScorpionXL 808 reads
posted
4 / 35

history of lack of discretion and disregarding the safety of providers you don't care for or agree with. For the good of all keep doing what you are doing so your reputation grows and you can be blacklisted from everyones lives.

escalade1964 65 Reviews 725 reads
posted
5 / 35

Huh?

If I do not like a particular provider or do not agree with them, I'm Blacklisted? LOL

Oh Shit!

ScorpionXL 786 reads
posted
6 / 35

outing them or their location is a completely different thing. You and many here know the things you have done.

secretidentity 612 reads
posted
7 / 35

uncooperative with screening

DickFitswell 625 reads
posted
8 / 35

They not only have the POP / power of the pussy ; but also to blacklist childish immature trolls on the boards,

Who have verbal diarrhea like no one else I have ever seen in 10 years on these boards.

Your thoughts , if any ?

Fitsy

-- Modified on 11/10/2013 3:30:18 PM

MissAliceQuinn See my TER Reviews 549 reads
posted
9 / 35

Hi Robbin,

No offense to escalade or any guy in this situation, but I think your advice is absolutely WRONG. Those sites exist for us to be able to backchannel for our safety just as the guys are able to for both safety and satisfaction.  

Leaking info off of a site like that, even our own pob here on TER, is extremely shortsighted on behalf of yourself or any woman who would do it.  

I don't know you nor have I any issues with you, but I must admit to being slightly appalled at your suggestion. I almost never take any firm stands here on TER but this will be one of them. Not every blacklist is a total shut down, some can merely be warnings about a guy's temperament and then you can decide whether to see him or not. That's for US to decide when we view it. Yes there are women who'll blacklist for bad reasons, but we should look at the whole of our verification process on a guy to make the decision to see him or not. Leaking info about it is bad, but encouraging someone to ask someone to leak info denotes the same thing.  

Kiss Me,

Kat

TheHoundOfCullin 9 Reviews 620 reads
posted
10 / 35

I am an asshole.. I get lost. I say the wrong things..  
I fuck up everything when it comes to dates..
The women I see tolerate, and actually laugh it off…
Why?  
Because I don't do it on purpose, I'm forgiven.
If anything.. My sincere insecurity can be fun.

You do it just to hurt feelings.. It is obvious.
They respond to that…
 Thus the low trust you have earned. Not only with the Ladies..
But with me too..  
I don't want to believe that BTW...

tg_baby 434 reads
posted
11 / 35

We can't openly share information if we're worried about the info getting back to the guy. Some guys are VERY dangerous when crossed (will attempt to find a girl's identity and out her)...and/or will make hell for us in the community (revenge review, etc.). If a girl undertook the time and risk to put up a warning by which YOU can benefit...don't throw her under the bus!!!

I've seen blacklisted guys. I'll take everything into consideration. In one case, I emailed the guy's last references on p411 to be sure...I will take the guy's 'vibe', his correspondence, his references, his board posts, etc., all into account when making an appointment. So if 'Suzy Psycho' says he cancelled last-minute and was disrespectful, and posts some deranged rant on NBL...I'll think 'Well, I bet he was relieved he avoided her!!'  

I've blacklisted a few guys in my day. I don't really care if they find out (I'd NEVER see them again EVER and don't care about offending them), and I'm not naive enough to think that what Robbin described doesn't happen. But I'll think twice, knowing that the info will almost surely get back to him at some point...and that's stopped me from putting some info out there, that I would've appreciated having before I'd seen the guy, and that I'm sure some poor girl would want to know

Dr Who revived 683 reads
posted
12 / 35

She's created quite an uproar on a site called cheaterville.com  

She clearly has many issues and is redefining the true meaning of BSC.

She's been on TER before...left for whatever reasons.  And now that she apparently has ruined her SD deal...tough to pay the rent.  Shit...on a social media site she posted that she's a multi-millionaire.  The woman clearly has serious issues dealing in the real world.

As for blacklists...escalade1964 isn't on any public one's.  Easy enough to do a search to find that out.  If some Boston agency owner has put him on some DNS list...whatever.  But that's NOT a blacklist outing him with personal information.
Posted By: JuliasLilSecret
I had a very good friend who is absolutely wonderful ask me to see if he was blacklisted because ladies were not responding to his requests to meet.  I told him this is something that I could never do because I would be banned from the blacklist site as well as the ladies if they found out about it.  I told him that he was welcome to use me as a reference any time and that some ladies will take a reference over a blacklist report in certain situations.  I personally take the blacklists with a grain of salt and combine my decision with other information I have gathered about the person.  
   
 Leaking blacklist information is NOT okay, regardless of the situation.  The OP needs to inquire with that site directly.  It's exactly the same as us not being able to change anything about our reviews if the person saw us.  

Alyssa Marie See my TER Reviews 623 reads
posted
13 / 35

Because he's obnoxious as f*ck.

He's like the guy who sends mass texts every morning, afternoon and night. Hoping for just one reply.  

He's like the guy when all your friends tell you no and you actually listen.

bludive_1 546 reads
posted
14 / 35

So, is "National Blacklist" THE site to use?  I have my own personal blacklist but have never officially reported anyone to any site.  There was the fake blacklist site that turned out to be a blackmail site (I'm sure you all know about it) and that makes me very nervous about giving any info to any of these sites

WondersOfTheWrld 547 reads
posted
15 / 35

How can anyone take blacklist sites seriously after perusing some of the public info on them (see below). I thought blacklist sites were supposed to be for abusers, rapists, robs, LE, and maybe there was value at one point, but enough ladies take them with a grain of salt now based on the irrelevant info that is prevalent on them. Just keep recent references, reviews that you can share with new ladies, so even if certain gals from New England won't see you, others will. I wouldn't worry about it.

Public Examples:
-Idiot texts escorts late at night  
-He asked for face photos!    
-Body odor  
-Likes to call shemale escorts  
-Drama High maintenance. Too much drama.  
-Txtr He texts too much
-Chatterbox who posts too much on the boards
-Doesn't provide enough screening info

-- Modified on 11/10/2013 4:02:48 PM

escalade1964 65 Reviews 665 reads
posted
16 / 35

You are a liar and of course Hiding behind an alias. lol

What have I EVER done to put any provider or hobbyist in ANY danger

MatureGFE See my TER Reviews 516 reads
posted
17 / 35

This kind of info is not supposed to be discussed with clients.

And Julia calling it the hookers union is a funny way to put it, made me smile!

xoxo,

Steph

tg_baby 621 reads
posted
18 / 35

This isn't about belonging to some 'club' or a middle-school clique. This is about professional courtesy...it's about having enough concern for other women who are in the same situation as YOU are (a vulnerable one, at that), who (like you) just want to stay safe and avoid bad experiences and dangerous situations.  

I think Julia was being facetious with mention of a 'hooker's union'...but, it's just elementary decency that people who share the same working environment would have a bit of empathy and concern for others in their same position, and would want to help improve their working environment and have some consideration for the women who do so...

But never mind, I've been in the business for far too long to indulge in such naive ideals. Please, carry on. Yes, I'm a bit daft, please forgive me

tg_baby 482 reads
posted
19 / 35

I'm not a member of National Blacklist, either.  

Imagine that you saw a client with good references. He was much too rough in session, pushed for unsafe activities, and shorted your dontation. You blacklisted him, so that other girls could be forewarned. Another girl tells the client what you wrote...he writes you, irate. He threatens bad reviews and worse. How would you feel? You had the kindness to warn other girls...and that's what you get?  

There are no 'rules' here...just basic human decency. No girl's safety is more important than chumming it up with some dude. Even if you don't agree that a guy should be blacklisted...as has been said above, if the post is completely without merit, girls will figure that out, and the guy will be just fine. But have enough respect for the other girl not to throw her under the bus.


-- Modified on 11/10/2013 6:31:32 PM

sexy1jill See Agency Profile 579 reads
posted
20 / 35

Escalade, you are not on the national blacklist, however you are on quite a few Boston area DNS lists. The blacklist is and should only be used for dangerous clients. It should not be used for Ns/NC hygiene or other issues. I do not like the blacklist for that reason. There are a lot of people on there unfairly. I fact quite a few guys on there are regular clients of mine. They were put on by someone for something stupid and don't deserve to be there.  

Now Escalade, as for being on a lot of the ladies personal Do not see lists, yes. Why you ask? Lets, see well it could be because of your big mouth and lack of descretion . ( Naming exact locations of in calls on a discussion board, putting ladies at risk). It could also be your infamamous board persona, some ladies don't want to be associated with that. Maybe its because you refuse to screen property? ( what lady would be crazy enough to see a guy who won't give their real full name, or some kind of employment info and who also refuses to show an ID at an appointment?) Or maybe its your bullying of people on the boards when you don't get your own way? Some ladies won't even see anyone who is a board monger period.

Jill

WondersOfTheWrld 635 reads
posted
21 / 35

that in addition to 'hooker's union' there's plenty of ladies who don't subscribe to the "elementary decency that people who share the same working environment would have a bit of empathy and concern for others..."

Well, if that were the case, wouldn't life be grand! It's good to hear that has been your experience, but please recognize there are cliques who purposely try to keep girls from seeing certain guys, some girls in cliques making it so that their clique doesn't like a girl they may not like and spreading rumors to guys about the girl, etc.  

There was nothing wrong with Robbin's post. And I usually like yours. She just came off as unaware of something and why should she know about this fantasy when it doesn't truly exist for all ladies?

I have never and won't blacklist anyone for the better good of other ladies when I've seen and experienced some of them be soooo nasty to their "coworkers" and "sisters".  

Yea right

tg_baby 445 reads
posted
22 / 35

I'd feel personally responsible if I found that another girl had seen the same a**hole as me, and had a similarly bad experience, when I could have possibly helped her avoid that. That's what has led me to blacklist clients in the past. That's just me, though.

As I said in my post, I do realize that a lot of girls don't subscribe to any such philosophy, and that's part of the reason I don't always blacklist. Because I realize that it will likely make its way back to him, at some point. And they might very well figure out that it was me.  

So when I do blacklist...I don't care if he finds out or not. I assessed that risk and decided to take it. At times I felt that it was too risky, and so I declined to blacklist.

Nothing wrong with looking out for others...I do try to do so, and why not? And yes, I've been burned by nasty girls, too. But I don't think my approach is unrealistic in the least.

-- Modified on 11/10/2013 9:01:22 PM

WondersOfTheWrld 588 reads
posted
23 / 35

of inexperience (like in Robbin's case, they simply don't know about these sites, or a so-called united provider community, etc.) or poor experiences (like me, in which I will never see blacklist posts as more than self-serving for some ladies).

I'm glad that you still try to look out for other ladies, but I think it's important to accept it when some completely is unaware (like Robbin) or others choose not to look out for other ladies because they have found that looking out for other gals in a false community is fruitless.

In this case, I think Robbin was simply unaware without harm.

-- Modified on 11/10/2013 10:46:49 PM

sweetnicole1 See my TER Reviews 425 reads
posted
24 / 35

She has been here before.
This is not her first rodeo.
And although she was way more annoying the first time around I doubt shes changed all that much.
Like Escalade she too is an overposting attention whore.
Last time though she went down in flames alienating just about everyone she could, and disappeared one day.
Like Escalade give them both enough rope and there will be a hanging.
don't be fooled by her foolishness. I don't think anyones really that stupid.

OSP 26 Reviews 520 reads
posted
25 / 35

And perused my name etc on blacklists. The ones that were paid membership were quite reliable while the free sites had more worthless shit on them than liorrs mouth

sweetnicole1 See my TER Reviews 364 reads
posted
26 / 35
sweetnicole1 See my TER Reviews 499 reads
posted
27 / 35

(Im usually right on the money with the nutjobs though) ;)

I know crazy when I see it!

LookMaNoHands 352 reads
posted
28 / 35

You sure do.

Btw....you're every bit of a nut job she is.

Nut, meet Nut.

London Rayne See my TER Reviews 427 reads
posted
29 / 35

And yah, I owe YOU an apology. Robbin's psychosis is both obvious and sad...on far too many levels.  

Posted By: sweetnicole1
She has been here before.
This is not her first rodeo.
And although she was way more annoying the first time around I doubt shes changed all that much.
Like Escalade she too is an overposting attention whore.
Last time though she went down in flames alienating just about everyone she could, and disappeared one day.
Like Escalade give them both enough rope and there will be a hanging.
don't be fooled by her foolishness. I don't think anyones really that stupid.

HeathersLuv4u See my TER Reviews 683 reads
posted
30 / 35

Disclosing blacklist info will get you kicked out of the Hooker Union.  
These rules are in place to protect the ladies from retaliation.
If I get my ass kicked cuz some Provider asked to hear his side of the story better get in line cuz she's next.

gatorjimmy 34 Reviews 437 reads
posted
31 / 35

....it's not OK to leak on your PERIOD.

Amen to that......what a mess!

WondersOfTheWrld 451 reads
posted
32 / 35

Nor did I talk about rolling on any ladies. You must have been drinking when you wrote that reply to me, because you're  clearly on something else.  

Seriously, I was talking to tg_baby, not you aka someone who appears to have reading comprehension issues.  

PS. How lady like of you. :

London Rayne See my TER Reviews 423 reads
posted
33 / 35

Holy shit..um, welcome back Julia lol.  

Here's my take...I do not think it's ok to tell a guy WHO or WHERE he is blacklisted, but yes...I have told men in the past that I refused to see them because of things that were posted about them on the web. Sorry, but guys are not stupid and eventually they flat out ask, "Gee, I can't get a date and wonder wtf is going on." If a guy's REAL NAME is blacklisted, he can google that and find it in 2 seconds...his handle is another story. Blacklists are not some secret society as so many of you want to pretend it is...guys are ON those sites and can see what we write and by whom. Just consider that.

WCedie See my TER Reviews 436 reads
posted
34 / 35

Haven't been on in a while - thought I'd peek in. This is about as entertaining as it gets - WOW!

blondiegirlxxxx See my TER Reviews 624 reads
posted
35 / 35

depends on what he has been blacklisted for.

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