One of the simplest joys in life is sharing a bath or shower with a lady. Washing the other and being washed. I would think ladies would want to offer this. Yet, the last few ladies I have seen don't.

Since most gals take showers between clients they probably don't want to shower with you.  Although many do offer to do this with their clients it's not for everyone.

egardless of our sesion I don't mind washing you before or after. I typically won't get in the shower or enjoy the washing aspect if I just hopped out myself, but I have no issue getting those hard to reach spaces. Now if what you're looking for runs longer than the typical soap down you'll want to seek out someone who offers "water ceremonies" we bring the essentials for the bath or shower. This typically runs 25-30 minutes depending on your preference and generally is an add on for a fee.  

"After all how many posts about how we don't always wash have we read?” This sentence MUST MEAN, you, the mice in your pocket and the monkey in your shoulder.  

I do oiled body to body work, which most of the session is me in contact with your body for a good 30 to 40 minutes.  I do wash thoroughly before and after each session.  If I have been running around and need to freshen up I have no issue with you joining. I draw the line at insertion because I'm highly sensitive to soaps and it can cause an alergic reaction within minutes,  which pretty much ends the session there. I would have to take Benadryl and rest most likely for the remainder of the day. So thanks for the courtesy in recognizing this.

I believe he's touching more on the pampering aspect and not so much the smelly part. That's why more and more are seeking out tantrikas and the like.  

... to include B2B massage, especially nuru, in the session.  You'll both need a shower after that, and can help each other get all the oil or nuru gel off.

It's just too restrictive of an environment for me - most of the time the stalls are too small for two to comfortably fit. Then, someone is left to shiver while waiting to get under the spray. There's also the danger of slipping and falling, and the loud slapping of shower sex is too distracting for me. I'm all for chillin' in a big ol' whirlpool tub, though.

they don't waste a lot of time on 'getting to know you'  conversation,  but put the time to use getting mutually clean for the action to follow -   and they usually make the shower time a lot of fun :p      goddess help you if you have to suggest to a lot of other gals that they might want to freshen up...

but my definition of that "getting to know you time" is the minute or two that most K girls spend with their tongue half way down your throat while still standing just inside the front door. lol

I too am completely spoiled by Asian women. I usually take a shower right before heading out for an appointment, but I NEVER say no to a mutual shower with an Asian women. Some of these guys have NO IDEA what they are missing.

and yes, you black, white and brown girls should take notice. It's a great service that keeps many of us coming back for more.

I enjoy the soapy washing of each other.  But, I don't normally do this before sex because we should both be clean.  I guess if we went dancing after dinner and worked up a sweat, then I might ask if he would like to join me in the shower before sex.  

Just sayin lol

Let's face it. Many people don't look great with running makeup. Especially with damp, frizzy hair. And whether guys like it or not, we're thinking about that scoring system when we come and go. It's our livelihood.

A woman's natural juices often get washed away by the water and so a silicon lube on hand works best.

It is real relaxing. I like the feeling of being pampered. It helps me unwind. Condom not needed as there isn't any penetration. I get sex at home but sometimes the pampering is lacking. Isn't the hobby at least in part about getting wants met that aren't getting met?

One of my first water ceremonies was in a smaller shower with a shower head that desperately needed some cleaning. No matter where I went the spray found me. I was soaked and as I came up from scrubbing his feet I made the statement "sexy huh?!?" He giggled and hugged me and said it was endearing. After toweling him off I wiped my eyes and continued the body rub portion. He repeated. I don't think too many men care what you look like as long as you're providing a quality session. Plenty of times I am dripping sweat from really getting the client relaxed. I joke about needing to make myself look as I did when I walked in and am offered time to bathe and freshen up the makeup. I can definitely understand the hair, which is why I now carry a terry cloth/ vinyl shower cap.

Note the question was about POSTS about unclean john's not about anyone person not being clean. I know I have read hundreds of posts about unclean guys. Hell I seen photos of shit stained sheets from guys posted on this very board. My wife complains about guys not freshly showered showing up and wanting her to blow them. Offering free shower time is how she handles it. I shower right before going to her incall and am clean to start. For me it isn't about getting clean, it is bring pampered but for the ladies knowing it is clean before she puts her mouth on it is a huge deal.

but just like in the AMPs where not much sexual usually happens during the table shower, except for a very thorough cleaning for what lies ahead of course, I like the pampering as well. That said, there is no reason to not go a little (or a lot) further in the shower if the lady is up to it.

I shower with the Provider I'm seeing when time allows. It's Great. We've had Sex in the shower a few times.

Full service is an issue because water washing away both natural and man made lube, thus increasing condom breakage rate. That is an issue, but if lube is reapplied often enough that isn't an issue ether, so your right.

This was a modified water ceremony, but there's just something about being washed that's more intimate than sex -- yeah, a psychologist would have a field day!

Although you might find some opposition from a small faction who feel it has to be sex from the time one walks in to the time one leaves. Sadly they seem way too short sighted to even consider that others might have needs that are not like that.  

I am sure you will agree he is well qualified.

As we are getting into the home stretch, I don't want to take any chances of him not winning. lmao

Everyone else knew exactly what you were talking about, Fungy simply lives on another planet, called "Planet Grumpy" Honestly I don't think I have ever seen him in a good mood.

Ceremonial baths with massage (she doesn't actually get in the tub usually) can usually be requested. One woman who really enjoys taking a bubble bath with me, unfortunately has only a small size tub, 4.5' x 2.5', so it's a little cramped to fully enjoy.