I've noticed some providers put "ask me for rates" in their p411 ads instead of putting their hourly rate (like the grand majority do). Why do they select this option? Is this code for "my rate is negotiable"?

"Ask me for rates" is code for saying "My rates are way higher than the norm."

I don't understand it either. If they won't list their rate I just move on with no further consideration.

If you have to ask, you can't afford it.   Almost always if you have to ask for a rate, it is going to be high.  I think they do it based on the idea of sales momentum.  Since you took the trouble to ask, you have mental momentum to proceed even if the rate comes in a lot higher than you expect.

Lol. Nah, that's bull. Post your rates girls.

asks to use your bathroom, they already have the momentum to take a dump.  Good point. Smart mongers should not fall for this shit.  Lol

Dunno, but I've always thought ads without prices were that way because the girl is more comfortable with that deniability. "What, me ocifer?, I don't charge for sex." Useless I think, but if that's it, I'd actually understand it.

how much to bring for the session? Are you expected to bring a stack of hundreds and just start peeling them off your roll? What if it's a first time meeting, you want to be robbed for the minimum amount, right? Now, that's for "ask about the rates"! But, it would be best to have what you're asking on your ad site!

Almost none of the ads for the girls I see list rates. Upon first contact, they text them or tell you over the phone (mostly indies do that), including the exact location. Prior to that, all you know is what services are offered and in which town.

Just go to her web site or her TER listing.

To me that means it's negotiable. I have seen that on some websites for overnights or weekend long appointments, but again I am not on P411, so not seeing what you guys are seeing.

I'd have to have my lawyer figure it out. I wouldn't know what to say.

I won't be contacting that provider. One shouldn't have to jump through hoops to get info which should be readily available to potential clients.

Not everyone has a website and the person I'm thinking of specifically doesn't even list her rates on her website either. On top of that she delisted from TER.

Agreed, I do the same.

That’s a reason to avoid unless she’s on P411.

Give me everything up front.

P411 has only two options to select for rates on a profile. Obviously, many providers here have many different date options set at different rates. If she has a website to spell them all out clearly, that's where she most likely wants you to go. I definitely wouldn't go by the rates spelled out on this site whatsoever.

I havent seen an ad where it was worth my time to ask. Not a big deal. Just wasnt worth my time.

Providers should list their rates. But it's a tactic that has been going on. Providers try to get the amount they want.

"My rates start at XXX"....It leaves you with the ,well how do I ask her what I'm looking for without freaking her precious ass off , or crossing some imaginary unknown boundary line and getting the "click" from her?
Those ads I just ignore...but the "ask me for rates" is cool with me.
Sorry to deviate...carry on

P411 only allows 2 rate options. What if I provide way more, than 2 options? I feel that we should have social date rates only allowed here on TER, and p411. Assuming everyone is only interested in 1 service is ridiculous. I am a VIP Companion, behind closed doors in different from public outings. I hate to assume anyone's interests. We are all different. Just, like our cravings & appetite.

It’s a bigger pain the ass for couples. You see a girl you both like she has a listed rate. When you contact her she wants 2x for couples. Save us the time and put your couple rate so we don’t bother contacting you lol.