lets say the lady pulls the rubber then puts my member in her mouth at the crucial moment (for ~20 sec with major sucking) am i still at risk for stds?

sorry for the n00b question. but im really new at this hobby and i was too weak to say no..altho i did wash up afterwards. but now im a bit worry.

but the percentage varies. If she chew your member hard and cause some micro laceration .... sure.  But HIV is remote, because saliva kills the HIV virus. But other forms of STD can be there.

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an STD specialist doctor told me that bacteria doesn't live in the mouth but possibly temporarily in the back of the throat if the provider does this very frequently although he had never heard of that happening. HIV virus is transmitted by blood in semen or through cuts in her mouth and your penis and even then very unlikely since a certain amount is needed to infect.  Saliva carries too little of the virus to infect someone. This activity is more risky for her since your semen carries sufficient virus and all she may have a cut in her mouth although I don't believe a case of this type of transmission has ever been confirmed. Good luck and keep it wrapped.

If there is to be CIM, why the cover in the first place?
Isn't the cover to prevent transference of fluids?
I'm confused by this question.

He didn't say, but I'm guessing the cover was on during intercourse, then she switched him to her mouth before he came.

well the cover was requested by me. but like i said, this provider removed the rubber at the last sec, but there was no teething, DT, or anything, just light sucking on the head and much guiding with her tongue. i have no idea why she did it. she did mention that she's very new in this business, maybe she wanted me to get my money's worth? who knows..

and speaking of transference of fluids. do tongue baths, ball licking, etc carry as much risk as a BBBJ? i imagine any skin contact with saliva is bad, is that correct?

because you just can't be too safe!

  What is with this recent flood of hyper-cautious nubees. None of us here has a death wish but to obsess as some of you do about health issues makes me wonder why you entered the hobby in the first place.

BTW- How do you nervous nubees think you make your provider feel when the whole time you're looking at them as some walking STD carrier?

   HAEOTS.

imaginative fiction.  Like everything here, right.  Just some is more imaginative than others.

okay so what about ball licking and tongue bath? there's saliva and skin contact. how big is the risk?

Providers are second only to gay males and intravenous drug users for risk of transmitting std's.  Of course providers are justifiably nervous about their clients as well.  If you aren't cautious about std's you will inevitably pay a price for your naive attitude.

I merely stated that there has been a flood of nubees lately and they seem overly preoccupied with the health risks. In any "sport" there is a risk of injury or even death. If you are going to participate in a sport you accept the possible consequences and protect yourself as best you can. However; Constant whining about the risks grows tedious to fellow participants who have accepted the risks and play on.

   HAEOTS.

Syphillis to name a few, but she is more at risk than you. And these bacteria DO live in the back of the throat saliva does NOT kill them. Open wounds that cannot be seen in the mouth and gums are always a concern.

Look, you've got something called skin.  It's a pretty good shield. Behind that, you have an immune system.  

In the '70s when I came of age, almost none of the sex was protected, except sometimes during intercourse to prevent pregnancy, never for disease.  Now I don't believe it, people are having anxiety attacks over one brief unprotected act.      

Anything you could get from a BJ has symptoms you could spot pretty easily, and is completely treatable.  Annoyances really.  If you were playing tennis rather than having sex, they would be considered minor injuries, like a stubbed toe.  By keeping the rubber on till the last moment, she minimized time of exposure.  

She probably took the rubber off because she wasn't enjoying it, and she probably thought you would enjoy the brief BB experience.  A provider shouldn't do that against her client's wishes, or should at least tell him first.

/Zin