I need some help there. I've just been slammed by an agency because I posted reviews on some of their girls. My reviews were always true, nothing made up, and balanced. I gave good reviews to their good providers and bad ones to the ones I had bad experiences with. They called me disgusting for posting reviews.
I was shocked and removed all my reviews as a result. Now I am wondering: maybe they are right and it is bad to write in a place where anybody can read it what happened between you and a lady. I would really appreciate some kind of guidance especially from SPs.

Put the reviews back up. Reviews and message boards are there for a reason, to inform us of all experiences - good, bad and times you don't "click".

That agency had no right to contact you and complain. If they were true professionals (no pun intended). They would have been more concerned to win your business back or investigate they have a girl providing poor service.

Taking those reviews down is being dishonest and the agency in question should have handle it in a more professional way.

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It sounds to me like they need to take this issue up with the bad providers and not with you.

Think of TER like a Consumer Reports.  You went out and bought some products (you purchased someone's time).  Some products weren't good for you and you let others know. The seller of the products got angry for your take on the truth and you caved.  Ask yourself if you benefit from reviews?  Is it a good thing to benefit from product reviews?

You engaged in a business endeavor.  Nothing more.  This wasn't a case of you reporting on your happenings with your girlfriend, wife, etc.

-Hoot.

In addition to what everybody else has said please post the name of that agency on this board.  That way everybody will know that they prefer to cover up their problems instead of fixing them.

IMHO, a provider can 'earn' the right not to be reviewed by providing quality service and building up a reliable pool of regulars whom to she can then request that they respect her privacy and not post reviews.
But we all know how many B&S artists there are out there and if you are going to be openly advertising yourself in suggestive ways then you are open to review. Period. I'll go one step further than Consumer Reports, how about Better Business Bureau? TER has established a policy of not posting reviews that seem subjective or punitive. What more can a provider ask for unless they have less than honorable intentions?

I think I'm going to go to work for that agency, that way no humiliating reviews about my private anatomy any more.  It's too funny....did she scare you?  I think she's pretty smart if you ask me.  Yeah, please email me so I can learn her tactics of how she strong armed you into removing those reviews hee hee.  I'm sorry....just teasing you tonight, I'm in a funny good humorous mood & it made me laugh so hard.  It's just a funny hobby sometimes isn't it!  I guess if you want to continue using that agency, you will just have to respect their wishes of "No Reviews" no matter what! I used to tell my clients upfront, no reviews for privacy reasons, some respect that, some don't.  My regulars never have posted about me & will not till this day.  Now that I accept those stupid reviews a little better & knowing that there is some kind of respect for a 5-star provider (I may be one by now, I just never check)the only types of reviews I would be against is the BS ones, which I got when I very 1st came to TER.  I gave that Guy excellent service for what I was up against with him & got a hell of a welcome to the TER reviews.  The idiot (he knows who he is) said I was flat chested, etc. etc.  Well I can tell you I am not by taking a look at my Lovings site that I'm not.  So in that respect, can you understand just a tinsy little bit of how those reviews can give false information at times & that usually is the reason they are not wanted (besides being a ROB provider)?  A kiss for your ouie.  Darlyn

I am a frequent reviewer and in the past have respected the wishes of certain EXCELLENT providers who have requested no review.  In one instance I posted a negative review after a provider asked me not to post because she did not live up to her promises.  Another board member, at that time, convinced me that since she did not live up to her end, that my promise not to post became more of an obligation to the TER community to let them know about her.  I don't think I would go so far as to call it an obligation, but I did feel  responsibe enough to post the review.  And I am glad that I did.  In retrospect it was the right thing to do.  

Any agency that would strong arm you that way does not deserve your business.  And if the consistency of their providers is suspect, why bother with them anyway?  Do your homework here on TER and find a nice place to hang your hat(or whatever else you may care to hang).  There are many good and reliable agencies and brothels, as well as many, many wonderful independent providers.  Who the F**K needs people that do what that agency did?  If I were you I would have the reviews reinstated and tell us all who that agency is.  Welcome to the TER community as it really should be.

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You're asking a discussion group on a review site whether or not it's right to submit reviews?  For some reason, I think that members of this site are going to believe it's ok to write reviews.

Do you call the agency and say "Hey its nowgurd from TER, you wanna send over a few chicks?".


Let a little time pass, write your reviews without giving out information that could be damaging (her real name, the car she drives, her address, etc). If they are advertising in public, they are already taking a much greater chance than someone writing a review.

I still don't know how they are supposed to know it is you writing reviews...something doesnt smell right here.

Still though, won't a couple of good reviews wipe out the damage from one bad one; especially over time.
I see what you mean though, there are a few guys out there that are straight up misogynists and you can tell just by the way they write about the girls. That's unfortunate. In a lot of ways!! But it also doesn't reflect the general spirit that I see around here with most of the TER community.

What's the point? I mean, who is in charge of your life, someone whom you paid to leave you alone after an hour, or yourself?

I find it utterly inappropriate that ANY PROVIDER would EVER expect someone NOT to review them. Geez.

I want to know what agency, in what city. That's why these review websites exist. If you're intimidated and fear genuine real-world-style reprisal, then just develop a new anonymous user-name and email some "people in the know" -- such as TER staff, several respected reviewers in your community, etc. The word will get around.

Frankly, the FREE exchange of information can't happen if people think that some information shouldn't be exchanged. Duh.

thanks all for your answers. Of course I do not intend to go back to this agency. I do not regret posting reviews on their bad SPs, because they deserve it, right? That's partly what TER is there for, to warn the other hobbyists off a girl and prevent them from wasting their money. I guess this whole story made me more concerned about the good SPs (!) My point is, I wonder whether the good SPs are offended when we give out details of our encounter. Usually I ask the girl (not the bad ones!) whether it's ok for me to post a review, but I really wonder whether they know how juicy the juicy details are? That's why I wanted to have some feedback from SPs.

thanks for your answer. I guess that's the point: privacy. I guess girls do not want too many details to show on the review site, eventhough I never posted a BS review. When I ask a girl whether she minds being reviewed most say no problem but ask that I don't give too many details. The problem is that we need  to give details in the juicy part, that's what it's for. I guess we just need to find a balance.

I have some regulars I have already reviewed and I suppose a more current review would be 'just the ticket'. I can only think of one bad experience with an out of towner for whom I chose not to write a review and a large part of that was I was having a bad day so I cannot rightly expect her to shoulder all the responsibility.

I forgot to include "low profile" as well.  I'm sure most of you know I'm one of SFRB's girls & that is where most of my reviews are!  I never had a review before going to that place to begin with.  I was referred there from a reg. client that I talked to about a problem that I had sometime last winter that had held me hostage in a room etc. (very bad guy)!  I was welcomed into the RB community with a couple of BS reviews of non gents. that I never even saw or sessioned with.  They were absolutely bogus reviews.  They are still up, RB would not remove them.  At that point, I realized that area had it's clicks with certain members with certain ATF providers that were losing business, all the ladies knew who I was even though I didn't know them, which led me to believe there was something dirty going on with their reviewing process & established members.  It was nothing personal, business is business & when someone else is loosing income, they go for the throat.  When I did decide to come into Ter because a provider told me it was more of a friendly place & a little more respectful of the hobby, I came in & blam, another BS review.  But I will tell you this, when I asked for help on the nonsense that was written (of course my pics. helped), I was shocked that TER was able to meet me halfway on elliminating the BS.  I felt like it was a 2-way street instead of one. I for one like TER's approach to the review situations & know there are much more ad's advertising their reviews from TER than RB's.  Those reviews go up no matter what we say, so my thought process is if you decide to do them, you don't have to put in all the negativity BS, try to be a mature gentleman & write in a nice way about the provider because what's not your cup of tea could be someone else's unless were talking about a ROB situation, then that's fare game to anyone.  I find if a review is written by a "Mature or Humorous Gentleman", I accept it much easier.  A little kindness goes along way in life & will take you far even in this hobby.  Even though I love to cut up & have fun with my clients, I still am a human being, a lady with feelings not just only a "Provider"!  Darlyn

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Did they object to reviews in general or the poor reviews?

If they objected to reviews in general:
While reviews are hearsay and not admissible in court, they are allowed as probable cause for a search warrant.  Therefore, I completely understand why an agency may be upset to find detailed reviews floating about the internet.

Of course, it's never professional to call someone "disgusting" so perhaps they are best avoided anyway!

Personally, I have all but once never told a provider that I was going to review her. I usually wait a while after the meeting to post the review. If they should read the reviews, I really don't want them to know who I am. Just a personal feeling. That said, I agree with the others that you should keep reviews up.

I was pretty taken aback by the whole idea of writing reviews at first, I have to admit.  I read a post on another website where they suggested the SPs might have their own discussion board to review clients - as if!  Quite honestly, I don't think the average person would be prepared for that kind of scrutiny, whether in the hobby or not.  On the plus side, it's made me pretty much immune to nasty criticism.

But I digress.  What I've come to realize is that it's kind've like a big locker room, right guys?  You'll talk and compare whether or not there's a set format for it or not.  What I do like about TER is that, in general, they display far more respect for us SPs than anywhere else I've seen, and in this kind of format I don't have a problem with it at all.  What I dislike is, on other boards, the kind of outright BS they allow - sometimes it's like they actively hate SPs.

And to the person below who wonders how the agency knew it was him posting the reviews - we almost always know!  You can disguise yourself all you like, I can always tell who's written the review.

-Anya