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LuckyIrishPrick 6 Reviews 138 reads
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You seem surprised. Admit it, you dig my contrarianism, apathy and dripping sarcasm...*insert devil horned emoticon here*

Secretly, I'm your fan...but don't tell anyone...I have a nefarious reputation to protect.

In the spirit of posting questions that frequently cause people to need to use Aliases to respond to them, as has been a theme fairly recently among questions aimed at providers,......here's one I thought of for all of you gentleman out there:

Do any of you out there ever participate in the hobby and get appointments with ladies being compensated unlike your wives or girlfriends, that you may or may not have, because of a desire to be able to "dead fish" someone?

What I mean by "dead fish" would be to pretty much lay back and let the provider perform basically all the work in "intimate time". I would imagine that it would be somewhat relaxing to do such a thing especially if you have an SO at home that you feel you need to work a lot for in order to make them enjoy themselves as much as you feel you are. I could also imagine that there are men out there that enjoy having companions for this alone maybe, because they want to be able to kind of...let go and have someone serve them, so to speak.

So for those of you out there who respond to this saying that you have done that, do you feel bad ever about it or feel like you should tell the lady you're seeing beforehand so she knows what is ultimately expected of her? Is every encounter you have like this or just every once in awhile?

For those who have not done this...do you feel like any encounter with a woman needs to be one where a man takes the lead or do you prefer it to be more of a "give and take"?

I was just curious about what the man's thought would be on this and what might be gleaned from all of you out there and the way you may or may not respond to these questions. I mean, men talk about civie women out there who are terrible in bed all the time because all they do is lay there...if she paid them for their time do you think they would be less apt to complain? lol.

And for the record...I don't think any of you should be embarrassed enough to really need to use Aliases unless you really want to, I for one would not judge a man badly even if he "dead fished" me...it happens.....

;) Estella Ayrs

I don't feel any guilt whatsoever on the days that I basically let the provider do "all the work".

It's not a relationship, I am paying to be made happy. Sometimes that means wild monkey sex. Somedays I can be perfectly content with a massage and a blow job.

I guess a lot of guys feel a need to perform everytime they see a woman, whether P4P or civvie. I think many of those guys haobby rather infrequently and feel a need to get the most out of every session. I hobby almost as many days as I don't, so I don't feel the need to be "on my game" every time.

As for your question, "if we were getting paid for our time?" then of course I would put out a 100% effort every time, but I am the one doing the paying, I doubt many providers care as long as I am "clean, respectful, etc"

both people are in rhythm.  it's frustrating when a provider is on top and i feel like it's a pilates session to poke her from underneath.  or the opposite -- they ride it so hard, the receptacle on the plastic gets stretched over my helmet.  WTF, let's dance, baby.  looks aren't enough if it feels like a wrestling match or a trip to the gym, with the provider as the equipment.  but I've had some really great sex with my civie women, or i wouldn't have stuck around.  hence, a high standard for GFE.  PSE is way too phony when you've had the real thing.

I can understand that some guys might just want the "strip and service" routine - sorta reminds me of a blowjob on 9th Avenue. I don't really want to feel like the Budweiser truck going in for an oil change. I'm of the belief that the lady - ANY lady, paid or not - would like to think she's engaging a living human being, not a mannequin with a hard plastic penis. I am also of the belief that ANY lady in this lifestyle would like to feel like a LADY, not a vacuum cleaner or a pocket-pussy. Every man/woman combination is different - I don't pre-plan any position or action (although there is a fetish in my programming!) - I just let things develop as they may, and engage accordingly. Languid lounge experience - GOOD! Energetic romp - GOOD! Getting milked like a cow - NOPE! (I've worked with those milikng machines!!!)Your "dead fish" reference reminds me of this bar in Whitehall NY (eewww!). And, in my world, NO ONE would use aliases, and we could all go down to Washington and get stoned with Barack. But I don't have a world, sooo...

KJ5233145 reads

When I first entered the hobby I might have "dead fish" it but not for those reasons. More so because I was intimidated and awe struck by the P4P.

But I do fall into the category that Gambler spoke about. I go all out to please. For me to get (aside from the obvious) pleasure is knowing that I am pleasing the one I am with. Whether it is P4P or civie if I don't think my partner is getting as much out of this as me neither I'm I.

Sure if I had unlimited funds and was doing this nearly daily, I could be more of a dead fish and just take my pleasure, but I really do like to think of this as mutual. I do of course realize that YMMV and on my end I did get to pick the partner so I know that is not always the case on her end.

I can't do the dead fish, cause that would mean CG or RCG which I hate; any passive position is thumbs down for me. I fuck, I don't get fucked. Fuck that. Fuckin' A.



Fuck. :)

I don't like either one.  When I'm with a woman, P4P or not, I want to be so turned on that I'm worshipping her with my entire body.  I want to touch her, lick her, suck her, stroke her, rub myself all over her.  I could no more lay there and have her do all the work then I could go to a movie and wear a blindfold.  It would defeat the entire reason I'm there.  That does not mean I don't want her to drive sometimes, and I LOVE it when I'm in dog and stay completely still while she does the work.  But I don't last even a minute like that.  Passive ain't for me.

lilli139 reads

though i'm not sure if that's a good or bad thing, lol.

as a submissive female, i do NOT fuck, i get fucked. but that certainly doesn't equate to my partner doing all of the "work," if one could call it that. i am quite energetic and passionate in my service...and likewise, i certainly don't think that a gentleman freely taking his pleasure equates to lying around like a "dead fish." quite the opposite, actually.

Oooohhh!  Lilli, you are just the kind of submissive I like !!!!!

-- Modified on 12/31/2010 12:11:41 AM

You seem surprised. Admit it, you dig my contrarianism, apathy and dripping sarcasm...*insert devil horned emoticon here*

Secretly, I'm your fan...but don't tell anyone...I have a nefarious reputation to protect.

Hey, I'm old, tired and out of shape.  Some days are better than others, but I always try to engage with a provider as a person, and I like to think they know that.  While I try to be more energetic when first meeting a lady, I could be the energizer bunny and I would not be a lady's sexual fantasy.  I mean I think I'm ok, and I'm comfortable with myself - and I like to please my partner, civvie or hobby.  But I show up, I take a shower even if I don't need one, I'm polite and I pay.  I think providers are not too unhappy with me.  I am amused by how many guys on these boards think they are God's gift to women.  Some of them may be, and some providers may care more about the quality of the sex then the money, but all of them, all the time?

who encourages me to just lie there while she goes down on me.  She goes into a bit of a trance, and any activity on my part seems to upset her tempo.  She will go on like this for about a half hour until she can't stand it any longer and then goes on top of me CG till she is satisfied.

I've actually come to enjoy the whole process and appreciate the integrity of her sexuality.

Of course for the rest of the session I then get to be active.

Give and take is what it's all about; that and experimenting.

I can't imagine asking for it by that name.  I'd be afraid she'd think I was asking her if I could eat her unwashed pussy after a very full day on the job!  Better think of another term like, say, "can we pretend I'm in a coma and you're the hot nurse and you arouse me and have your way with me while I'm comatose?"  You'll find a pretty good on like this on kink.com.

I agree with several of the other posters. It's a give and take. Sometimes I'm more active than others. Sometimes I initiate sometimes she does or I encourage her to.  Couldn't do the dead fish it's just too good to be still. I have to touch, rub, caress, kiss, ...well you get the idea. We both fuck and get fucked.

I'd prefer mutual enjoyment. Sometimes i want to be ontop and then have her on top of me.  69 and mutual masturbation also feels nice.  I wouldn't also want a lady to just 'lay there'.

I really enjoy being a contributing participant.

I like giving pleasure.  I think most guys do.  We are sometimes clueless about how to do it, but I think most of us love the ego-rush of making a woman cum, whether off the clock or when paying.

That said, when I'm paying a service provider, I expect the focus to be on me.  And I'm not shy about reminding girls who the customer is.  Why should I be?  About ten cents of my money is dropping into her purse EVERY SECOND that we are together.  Plink plink plink...  The steady plink of coins.  That is how the ticking of the clock sounds to me.

Nobody goes to a masseuse and says halfway through 'Hmm, your shoulders must be sore, let me do you for a while now'.  Nobody goes to a bar and says to the bartender 'Wow it's 1AM, you must be bushed, let me mix the next round for you'.  Nobody hires a lawn service and pushes the mower a while when it's a hot day.  Who carries his own bags and tips the bellboy anyway?  Who parks his own car and then slides the valet a tenner on his way past the key stand?  That would all be absurd.  It's equally absurd for a prostitute to think the guy owes her pleasure.  If she wants a real date, she should get one.  But when she's working, she's working.  

So, I guess back to your original question, Estella:  I have never been a 'dead fish'.  That's just not my style.  Laying there like a dead guy seems sort of weird to me.  I'd call it a sort of fetish, actually.  If you get a customer like that, my advice would be to still look like you're having a great time.  Ride his lame-ass corpse and fake as many orgasms as you can get away with.  A good prostitute satisfies the ego at least as much as she satisfies the body.

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