Hooked up with a very young(21), sweet, beautiful provider.  She was everything I wanted, petite, great body, and for her age was an incredible gfe provider.  However, during our last session her phone rang and she said she had to take the call.  Turns out it was her sugar daddy.  She uses her apt. for incalls so I asked who pays the rent.  He does.  I left before any problems could arise.  I called her the next day to inform her that I would not be seeing her anymore. I'm married, don't need the drama.  Is this common among providers?  To me it would be detrimental to their business.

she could of been just trying to get rid of you. did you over stay your welcome?

The man said DURING. All this LIKENED defense drives me nuts. Call bullshit where it exists. Male OR female.

It just does not normally come out in the normal course of appointments. Sounds weird she would reveal that, of course that's how I found out sort of too. lmao

The only thing wrong that she did was take the call. That was incredibly RUDE on her part.

I've been a SUGAR DADDY. My gf didn't take my calls when it was inconvenient.

I wouldn't like it though if mine was using the apt I paid for as an incall. Too many legal ramifications.

she isn't handling her sugar daddy arrangement very well is she? good for you! she probably overpromised avaialability to her sugar daddy and had to take the call because he is expecting her service to be dedicated to him. the latter is not necessarily the case.

but without the interrupting phone call, the general scenario is common. terms for sugar daddy arrangements with monogamy can be six figures. i was once offered an arrangement at $200,000 yearly but i have no idea whether it was to be exclusive or not since discussions did not proceed.

now non exclusive sugar daddies can secure guaranteed play times in advance for less. what happens is perhaps a dedicated slot in the schedule and their calls do not get answered during her time with other clients. i was once bumped from my usual mornings by a sugar daddy arrangement. so i moved to evenings. no problem. there was never a question of interrupting a meeting to take another call though.

perhaps your friend needs to learn through experiencing some losses. most likely her business ethics are poor and she is promising "daddy" an exclusivity she isn't delivering. she's headed for trouble. good call of you to get out of her problems.

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also the call could have been because the sugar daddy was "on the way". how's that for drama?

the problem isn't the sugar daddy arrangement, its using the apt. for incalls to me is the problem.  What if he walked in.  That I would not need.  I forgot to mention that she stated he was getting jealous.  Like I said, I don't need that drama.  If he got physical it would not be good on his part-trust me on that.

I wouldn't(and didn't)assume anything without confirmation. Just show-up?? NOOOOO!!! If she was making plans, that would contradict our agreement, she's history. There goes her free room and board.


BTW; my Suggar Daddy arangement went very well. Has recently turned into something MUCH scarrier. Potential 'forever'. YIKES!!!!!!!!

SugarDaddy's don't usually occupy a ladies time much....  as they have lives as well....

think of it this way... they get bored... and want to play - lucky us.

man, just what do you think this biz is... a gal all dolled up in Victoria's secret lingerie, sitting on the sofa, with her mind turned off... while waiting for the phone to ring???  and "gasp" its you!!! oh my!!  and at the sound of your voice, she instantly gets wet, and almost has an orgasm at the very thought of having the opportunity to pleasure YOU!

Dude, this gal seems smart, she is maximizing her assets while participating in this hobby.... WHAT freakin Drama??? you said it yourself... you had other sessions with her, presumably at the apt... and there was NO sugardaddy phone call.... ME??? detrimental to her business??? not in any way, rather an enhancement... cause it means that she might not have to see me, and then that would mean I am somewhat her choice...

one provider I know (actually quite a few) are VERY industrious, starting small businesses on the side... and in fact, making more there than in this business....  so, please, what it is about this woman that makes her a good provider in your estimation also makes her maximize her opportunities... and that my friend, creates a very desirable woman, in my opinion.

Providing from domicile appt is already on thin ice.  What's unclear is what the sweet honey's deal is.  This is too like an affair on both sides...  very dangerous.  Best approach is what the OP did...  bail & let others solve the questions.  
A brawl...  even one you win...  is not going to end well.  LE could get involved, criminal charges.
This is supposed to be fun, guys & gals...
skb

& you made the right decision, in my opinon.

into your post. others may not have.

the use of a sugar daddy supplied residence as an incall to meet other is extremely indiscreet.

she is one either one of those "invulnerable in her own mind" divas or incredibly stupid or both. no need for you to figure out which.

Continuing to see this young lady could just go wrong in so many ways. She gave you some very valuable information. Run with it.

client info to herself, I don't care who pays the rent.  I'd be a sugar daddy like that in the right circumstance.  Just a different way of compensation or social arrangement.

She had a sugar daddy so the guy left and decided to never see her again? There are many ladies in this business that have boyfriends, or are married even. The spouse might know shes a provider or might NOT know. So I dont think a sugar daddy is more dangerous then a husband or boyfriend if at all. Each situation is a unique one.

Its actually VERY common that many ladies that escort DO have significant others. Just like the clients. Equal footing.

the last thing i want is a brawl-that's why i boogied on out.  I live in a very rural farming community with a high profile job-dont need that crap know matter how good she is.  I've been pissed for a week.  Pissed because she was good but to put a client in that kind of risk is bull.

And where do you think she found her Sugar Daddy?  He was very likely a client!

The key here ... is that the provider TOLD you her sugar daddy is JEALOUS.

That is the word that means "danger."

You are acting wisely. Get the hell out.

As for being pissed? No, I can't see that. No reason to be.

Why not?

Think it through backwards.

You are a married man. What if your wife hid a GPS transponder in your car, and tracked you to the provider's place? She'd likely be rather less than magnanimous; and that being a rural area, might do a little shooting of her own. That's not unheard of.

So any provider who sees you takes a non-disclosed risk.

The fact that she exposed you to a nearly identical risk does not, IMO, justify being pissed.

It DOES, however, fully justify getting outa there!



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by johngaltnh

I can't say I blame you for not wanting to see her again. Kudos to you for seeing a bad situation in the making.

I am not so sure your original description of her being a wonderful GFE is accurate. She sounds like outside of actually bumping uglies.....she does not know how to control her business.

Sugar Daddies are not traditional clients, but they are still CLIENTS. They are notoriously high maintenance and for the most part are COMPLETELY delusional about them being a client. They consider hobbying morally wrong, yet they are the hobbyist. They have a outrageously heightened sense of entitlement. IF she does have a Sugar Daddy, who signed the lease on her in-call, you were right to run for the hills. He thinks he is in love with her, she think she found herself an idiot.....both are very sadly mistaken. He is in love with her young twot, and she is in love with his old wallet....bad combination....both brains are numbed by factors that are irrelevant.

Give me a great client who is a HOBBYIST and knows he is a hobbyist, and knows I am a provider and I am HAPPY! Anything other than that I will shut down. I cannot be bothered with a delusional man who thinks this is something other than that. I just want to enjoy providing a few hours of sensuality with a great guy! Not get all in his business and him in my business.

Anyone can throw their legs open and put a for sale sign on it, but it really takes a savvy, smart, bold, business woman who has all that going on for her AND CAN STILL BE sensual, sexy, and healthy to be a solid provider.

That would not include a girl telling a client "yeah my sugar daddy actually signed the lease on this apartment, he is really jealous, and oh I have to take this call from him."



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Very aticulate & well thought out.

One of the biggest reasons I chose to engage in this lifestyle is that it allows me the to enjoy the company of ladies and gentlemen on a more than one-night-fling basis while keeping me free of the the entanglements and games that occur in dating and arranged (sugar) relationships.

Professional Companionship

You choose to buy a specified amount of time based on the rates I have already set out. If for some reason I choose to give you extra "uncompensated time" it is because of some decision on my part, and not because you have negotiated or haggled it out of me.

You aren't crazy enough to assume you're the only gent or lady in my life, and as such the risk of developing territorial or entitled feelings is greatly minimized.

Based on the above fact, I don't have to play the blushing virgin, or otherwise act like you're the only big man or little lady I have eyes for. (I'm polyamorous-playing this roles does NOT go over well with me.) I get to be my total, complete self, sexually empowered and all. Along those lines, I get to blow your mind in bed without you asking in an accusing voice "Where did you learn THAT from?"

Arranged Sugar Daddy/baby relationship

You rarely purchase a specified amount of time. If you do, it's in the form of a monthly allowance, which, when broken down into the number of hours you wish to spend with me that month, is piddly dink.

You often get a sense of entitlement or territorial feelings because you have "bought" me (oh, I'm sorry, you're "taking care" of me. You may have a wife or S/O, but if I choose to exercise my rights as a sexual human being, you will become upset and most likely accuse me of being "ungrateful" or "untrustworthy."

With this sense of entitlement, you will often break your end of the deal (I'll give you x amount in allowance, and in exchange I'll want to see you a couple of times a week/month), increasing the number of times you wish to see me without increasing my allowance or otherwise providing more compensation for my time. If I bring this up or attempt to negotiate, I am accused of "counting dates" and bringing the whole affair too close to "paying for sex," at which point you will close the subject for discussion by vehemently stating that you "do/will not engage in prostitution" because it's degrading/illegal/just plain wrong/pick your rationale.

*As a final quick note, men have and sometimes still do pursue me in hopes of turning me into their sugar baby. Now I just tell them what I do (professional companionship) and they either leave me alone or agree to pay my rate. If, over time, they start getting uppity or entitled, I simply let them alone for a while, and everything shorts itself out in short order. Have I mentioned how much I love this lifestyle?

One of the most sensible people in this profession. Too bad they can't clone you.

...is why you called her the next day to tell her you wouldn't see her again.  Why do you think this was necessary? Did you have another appointment booked with her?

... every time Eve types it generates an "I must see this woman" response.

It's that "brainy chick" fetish of mine asserting itself.




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by johngaltnh

Sometimes it is explicit, I get told about the SO or spouse. I have received family picture Christmas cards from a couple of providers and no I'm not telling. Sometimes it is implicit, I am not told outright but but told enough to fill in the dots. Other times it is just chance, a random encounter outside the hobby that makes everything perfectly clear.

In the OPs case the incall was in "daddy's" supplied apartment and he was jealous and on the way. The girl in question is sack of hammers dumb or arrogant. The OP is TOTALLY right to cut her off. She is impossibly indiscreet.

Wow family Christmas cards? That a bit much! LOL

I understood his reason for leaving if guy was on way, yes ofcourse. Some people have said to me they decide to stay away if they find out the provider has a significant other. I was just saying how common it is for providers to have boyfriends and hubbys.

Lock me baby...Sidney

Some people feel that the lady should know? I think it should just be left alone, if a guy isnt gonna go back. Sometimes some guys are really ticked that they WANT to give the lady the bad news... Maybe it makes THEM feel better?

Perhaps I could help you with that.  Can you get some DNA, and I'll make a call or two.



I'm not looking to be a sugar daddy; I just want some sugar.

little phil

For both parties it is better that nothing is said. I have had sessions that while they have been enjoyable,for some reason I will not repeat.
I think the bottom line is that "some" guys have to appear that they took one for the team.

To each their own...

It might simply be that, as a paying customer, he wanted to register his displeasure and provide feedback.

Still, this being a human business, it might be worthwhile to inject some ... oh ... I dunno ... basic human kindness into the equation?

I realize it is all business, NSA and all that jazz; but it seems to me that one can afford to be kind and understanding regarding a woman one has slept with; albeit as part of a transaction.


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by johngaltnh

I agree that on the average it WOULD be a bit much. But rather than judge a relationship on the basis of averages and statistics, I am all about negotiating boundaries that are mutually agreeable.

My rule is: if it works and does no harm, it's OK. Aside from that everything is negotiable.

I cannot understand why it would matter. It's just a job.

I can totally get how some providers keep their personal lives hidden because of that: it may decrease market.

You've got to wonder: are these guys looking to "fall in love with a provider"? Can't they separate fantasy and reality? My experience is that many providers have 1 or more SOs in their lives. Many don't.

Frankly I am more comfortable seeing a provider who has a life and isn't only just about the biz. Now I don't need to know and in many cases I don't. On the average "not knowing" is the safe way to play it. But being trusted and liked by a provider (and trusting and liking in return) can work if both sides are intelligent, sane, and care to be responsible adults.

Word on the street is she can fuck too. Ouch, did I say that? I meant she'll be glad to come to a city near you if you have more than a board interest in her. She's definitely a thinker/doer.

she texted me telling me she was sorry.

In this case, I strongly suspect "they" know whence they speak.




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by johngaltnh

I get what you're saying and it too bad that people take the "transaction" for granted. It's the stigma of being a whore.

I believe you hit it right on the head.  Here's my take on this.  I believe a SD is after nothing more than control and power over one individual.  To me wanting to be a sugar daddy is lower than pond scum.  If you have a SD take him for everything he's worth.  If someone tells me that a sugar daddy knows your a provider and he's not jealous you are so full of crap.