Most pricing will generally show just a small reduction in rate for the second and subsequent hours and sometimes no break in rate.  It would seem to me that longer sessions should be priced more attractively and ultimately generate a higher income for the provider and a higher value for the hobbiest.  Here's my reasoning...

PROVIDER:  It takes a certain amount of time to get ready for a client.  You lose time between appointments.  Time is spent screening the client, scheduling, e-mails, phone calls, etc.  Less clients needed to earn the same amount.  Travel time for outcall.  More likely to have longer sessions and fewer number of them.  The list goes on...

CLIENT:  An hour seems to go by too quickly.  More chance for true GFE feeling and less MP environment.  More bang for the buck, so to speak.  Most hobbiests would prefer spliting into two sessions if the price were the same or almost the same.

For example, how many providers get offers for a four to six hour session at, say 1200 or more?  Especially if it involved a dinner and going out, etc.  Not too many, I'm sure, unless the provider was top level.  But if it were at, say 300 for 1st and 150 for the additional, chances are a greater number of clients would go for it.  In this senario, it would still seem attractive to both sides.  Obviously, I'm targeting the average rate as an example and not using high end providers.  They would fall in a different category.

Personally, for a 300 provider, I would not go for 600 for 2 hours.  I would prefer two 1 hour sessions.  But if the rate was 550 for 3 hours, I might go for it.  Any thoughts??

RightOn!
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Many ladies do this--even higher-end providers--and I think you can usually tell by a lady's price structure which session lengths she prefers.  

I have always preferred longer assignations (I love that word!) and have never even offered one-hour sessions.  Conversation over dinner or drinks gives us time to get to know each other better, and flirting, witty banter, interesting discussion, or just sexy gazes and touches can really enhance the experience and get me heated up.  So, I designed my price structure to encourage longer engagements.  As the sessions get longer, my fees increase by about two-thirds.  At least, I think that's how Mathesar explained it to me.  I didn't realize my fees fit such a mathematical equation--I just did it intuitively--but he pointed it out to me long ago.

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In fact, what if a provider offered a multiple session package?  Like a 6 hour block of time for $XXXX, that could be used over a period of time?  The provider could sort of punch your ticket as you use time, until the purchased time had been spent.  I like this approach, because, as much as I think I would like the more liesurely pace of a multi-hour session, I have limited capabilities, and once those capabilities are spent, I'm done for a few days.  
I'm glad we've worked out the marketing plans for all the providers out there.

There are indeed providers who offer the time savings plan. Normal hourly rates in the $$$ range with an option for $k 5 hours to be used as needed.(dont quote me on the exact$)Quite a savings and certainly beneficial to both the provider and hobbyist...gaurentees repeat business and quite a savings in the long run. She is reviewed here and does post but I have not asked her permission to post her name. Perhaps she or others who offer this will reply to the post.

I do. And many of us do.
I have only had (3) one-hour dates and really only prefer that for the 'repeats' who might be 'on the run' as I don't prefer them. It puts a whole different feel to your time together.

Conversely, if you're a really busy person seeing someone else who's busy, it can be nice to 'get in and get out' for both of you. I would imagine that someone who had incall could appreciate it more, but for those of us who are outcall only, it doesn't make much sense.

L.  L.,  I've previously mentioned to you that there is only one thing wrong with your rates.  They are too low for the beautiful quality of companionship and intimacy that you provide.

I would think long and hard before entering into such an arrangement.  

On the surface the agreement works well for both parties if completed.  But you need to consider that before completion things could change.  One of you may move.  One of you may change their opinion of the other, and not wish to see the other anymore.  And what if your lady chooses to retire?  My guess is that these risks are underestimated.

Proceed with caution.

good luck

This kind of arrangement would limit one of the best aspects fo the hobbying life: V A R I E T Y .

I would rather offer my long time clients more hours, off the clock

Which, I do all the time When they are with me, and they are going over their time, I tell them to stay off the clock with me, which they do. It works out good for me

Mel

I do think you can tell the length of session that a lady prefers from her price structure.

Many escorts charge a fixed rate per hour regardless of the length of the session. Obviously, they prefer short sessions.

For escorts who do not charge a fixed rate per hour, take a piece of graph paper and plot their price curve using time in hours on the x-axis and dollars on the y-axis. Often it isn't a smooth curve and the attractively priced session lengths just leap out at you.

I have noticed that the price curves for many escorts who do not charge a fixed rate per hour do tend to lie close to a mathematical curve. I quote from THE MATHESAR REPORT.

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Not all escorts offer a one-hour session. If an escort does not have a
price for a one-hour session on her website or in her profile I have
estimated a one-hour price for the purpose of assigning her to the most
appropriate list. I assume that price varies as the 2/3 power of the
length of the session (i.e., an eight-hour session costs four times as
much as a one-hour session) for the purpose of deciding which list the
escort should appear in. This assumption is based on the rule-of-thumb
that appears to be used by many escorts, namely that if the length of of
the session doubles the price should increase by 50% to 67% (e.g., if
one hour costs $300 then two hours costs $500 (67% increase) four hours
costs $800 (60% increase) and eight hours costs $1200 (50% increase)
with eight hours costing four times what one hour costs).

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The actual formula is:

  Price_for_session := price_for_one_hour * time_in_hours ^ (2 / 3)

where ^ is the power (exponentiation) operator.


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"Often it isn't a smooth curve and the attractively priced session lengths just leap out at you" -- Math(esar)


or we'll take advantage of ya!  


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Math(esar),

i prefer price curves of the form   P = R * (1+log(T))

cuz up to ~3 hours it's practically the same deal as  P = R * T^(2/3)

but whooooo doggy! after T = 4, you start reaping them  benefits big time! LOL .... why you can even book them for a whole freaking day at only 4R (instead of the typical 8R)  a savings of 50%!

now do you know where i find me some of these logarithmic girls?  

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btw, did you really find the power range [0.59,0.74] to be "obeyed" by all the TER girls you sampled?   it's rather surprising, cuz if so, they must be a rather "disciplined" lot!  

LOL

Incidentally, I think you mean "ln" (natural logarithm) and not "log" (to the base 10) in your formula.

No, I don't think the ladies are mathematicians. They set their prices mostly by what they think they are worth and some are clever enough to vary their prices as a strategy to focus the guys on certain length sessions.

The price curves are all over the map. Some are really strange. However having said that, a surprising number of ladies increase the price by 59% plus or minus 9% when they double the length of a session.

I have never done any research on sessions longer than 8 hours. (Personally, 90 minute sessions are my favorite.)

Price is also all over the map on two-girl sessions. Some ladies charge more than the sum of their individual prices and some charge less. To me, personally, a two-girl session is worth about 80% of the sum of the individual prices. However, that may be because I'm getting older and I tire more easily than a few years ago.

Most of the providers I see have some sort of sliding scale, or discount multiple hour dates.  Typically I will not see a provider who doesn't do this, especially at the higher end of the hourly rate scale (greater than $$$ per hour).  And I cannot remember the last time I made a 1 hour appointment.  There is a prestigious agency with many beautiful and well-reviewed providers on Long Island, where I live, that I will not patronize because of this.  Thier typical hourlyrate is $$$ .5 per hour, $$$$$$$ for 2 hours.

One of the things that endears me to providers is a fair way of pricing a 4 hour dinner/date.  Ostensibly they are spending 2 hours having dinner and 2 hours having "dessert", and those that price their dinner hours at a more reasonable rate, are, IMHO, still ahead of the game with a fairly large fee, and at the same time have a sound marketing plan that I believe many guys would appreciate.  I certainly do.

'Incidentally, I think you mean "ln" (natural logarithm) and not "log" (to the base 10) in your formula' -- Math(esar)


what can i say ... when it comes to logarithms, it's "ALL NATURAL" for me, bay-bee!

and ladies, for the love of God ... don't go getting fake (size 10) log implants  ... i like your bases just the way God (aka Euler) intended ...  lim_n(1+1/n)^n  as n --> infinity

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i'm curious though, we haven't heard from Prof. Andrew Wiles yet. i wonder if he can shed some light on rate structures with his "elliptic curves" ... hmmmm ... where could he be at this late hour?


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i would never do a dinner date unless it was on such a (sliding) scale (maybe not even then frankly)

but then, i've never taken agency girls out to dinner ... only indies and then dinner was completey off the clock ... i just don't believe in feeding them AND paying them at the same time!

my company should be enough for them  

I'm not surprised that you wouldn't want to compensate a lady for some fine company during dinner to precede your time together for desert.

I can't imagine how horrid that time would be with all of the quotes, the puzzles, the math, the squirrel pictures.

You do have an ounce of humanity!!

moi? ... get out ... i'm 100% furry

I go to dinner, lunch and drinks with providers I've seen before and always off the clock, except in Cabo San Lucas, Mexico.  There the $150 to $200 per hr. girls are all $350 to $500 for the evening, which means dinner, clubing and very often all night. They say they just like a one guy per night date and $350 to $500 is pretty good pay.  About the top 2% in Mexico.

As for here I have never been with anyone that has charged the same for the second hr. as the first.  I also find most will give repeat clients a longer period of time for the 1 hr. fee rather than discount the rate.  But not always.  There are some goood discounts out there two.

Phoenix really is paradise when it comes to the hobby.

SlowStart

Yeah, that's what I meant! Don't you speak Blonde? xxxooo (eom)

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My ATF is "no holds(no misspelled) barred", her rate is $$$ for the first hour and $ for every hour after that. Makes for great three hour sessions.  She is 26, tall, beautiful, and a real GFE.

I would prefer the log-scale (``au natural'') however as mentioned this is harder to communicate.  

Incidentally, shouldn't there be an intercept in your model ? Whether or not its fixed cost interpretation is meaningful - it is quite important in formulating any kind of regression model (except where not possible - e.g., identification).

Was this a Box-Cox transformation (seems relevant here on so many levels) ?

Also, any goodness-of-fit analysis done ?

Anyway, thought your analysis was interesting.  I've always thought it would be cool to try and predict whether or not some reviews are fake (based on the information in all relevant reviews).

A woman I saw last month just added a 1.5 hour session.  The rate was $$$ for 1 and $$$$.5 for two.  Even though there wasn't a price break the extra added time was terrific.

Madison in MN does have a "volume discount."  She charges $1000 for 5 hours vs. $325 per.  You can use the hours anyway you would like.  Sounds like a great idea.  Guess what I'm doing next time I'm in the Twin Cities.....

btw, we never did hear from Prof. Andrew Wiles ... what gives?

strange how you never see him post in the same thread with me, Mathesar and you for that matter ...

I feel that simple math is best. I prefer a dinner date or multiple hour session. It is more intimate and gives you a great opportunity to flirt and desire the "dessert encounter". My 1 hr session is $$$$  and you + $ per hr after. It is simple and in the long run a lot less than those who's first hrs may be less expensive.

In the past I did a "FMC" promotion which was " Frequent Mara Card" I did this to save up for the down payment on my home. It was a 1k for 5 hrs upfront. It worked wonderful land it was a win win situation.

My 2 centavos.............
kisses & licks....
Mara of San Diego

That's not what I remember.