yeah i'm still POed about the alias review policy. i was going to not renew VIP. but i noticed that messages were stacking. not a huge stack... just a small one.

what was significant was that there was one lady with whom i have had a long flirtation. PMs are her preferred means of communication. emails.... not so much.

so i caved. fortunately, coincidentally there was fresh communique awaiting. so i wasn't a complete sap. just a wuss. this time.

Wish I had a dollar for every time I bitched about it. I'd be on a plane to Denver and meet Edrienne Cole for an overnight as much as I whine about it.

I appreciate that sometimes someone has a legit question and doesn't want to be 'outted' cuz of the embarassment factor.

But posting reviews under an alias is just wrong.

Dude are you still on that? lol



Happiness is a warm gun lmao
Tear me a new one dude.

Boy do I miss JACK


Some rambling thoughts for your entertainment.

It seems that most of the membership here have failed to look at the positive aspects of this new function.
I am somewhat disappointed that so many hobbyists have failed to realize the added protection of our privacy and safety in this regard.  

The providers are understandably upset. They may lose their leverage to influence scores and to harass, blacklist and out a hobbyist over a review.

I also think there will be more accuracy in the alias reviews. The score inflation will probably diminish absent the fear of retaliation.

I am glad that someone else echos my points.

I would always give them the same weight as you are correct in the fact that we can't evaluate the reviewer. I will base the review on what I read, so I may give more or less credibility to the alias reviewer.
To give you an example. An alias reviewer give a 7 in looks to a provider with mostly 9's. I will view her website photos and base some credibility on my own standards. If I think he is off base, then I may not give it much credibility. If the provider is really a 7 in my view, then I will give him more credibility. It goes both ways.

A high volume provider will probably be clueless if a review is posted 90 days after the encounter. I would also make sure the review does not have certain details that would give my alias away, such as something unusual like stumping my toe and asking you to kiss it.

A provider who sees 3 guys a month, perhaps.

Look. If the hobbyist has boned you, he already passed your screening. Screen until your heart is content. No one is objecting to that. In fact, I applaud you for keeping yourself safe.

How does an alias review put you at risk? It doesn't.

Young and dumb is fine with me too I don't pay you for your brains either.

I agree that alias reviews are not a good idea. It unfair to the provider. If you are going to come on TER and put out there the good and bad of a provider you shouldn't be able to hid behind the wizard' curtain.

like that other board used to have.  Not for the REAL reviews but for the ones posted under and alias.

Anyone with half a brain wouldn't give their TER Handle out to the Provider to begin with, so

what fucking difference does it make if it is an alias review.  If the review is challenged, the site knows who it is. If it's not, then it doesn't make a difference whose name is on it.

Besides, those guys who love to let the ladies know their TER Handle won't use an alias to begin with unless they don't want their ATF to know that they're fucking the competition or some other bullshit reason like that.  

Who's hurt by alias reviews here?  The Providers?  Why?  They can challenge the review just like any other, and they probably don't know the TER Handles of the dicks they're sucking to begin with, so it's the same fucking thing.

Just because a bunch of mouthy broads get the vapors over the idea that they won't be able to fuck with a guy on the boards for giving a bad review doesn't mean that the rest of the swinging dicks out there have to take up the cause.

This is a site for MEN WHO HOBBY, not for Providers.  Get that through your thick skulls.  You should be THANKING the site for implementing another layer of protection for the men on it.

what do you need an review alias for?  You seem to be refuting your own point.  As for this  site not being for providers, I disagree.  Yes, it's primarily for guys who play, but without the participation of the women it would be a much less useful, and enjoyable, place.  Who needs "another layer of protection" anyway?  Not me.  And I use a lot of aliases on the boards.  I've also had my issues with the review policies here.  I understand this new policy is to make the reviews "more honest" but think an alias for a review creates more problems than it solves.  (Settling scores with a slanted review?). And, as you yourself said,  if  you're worried about what a provider thinks about your reviews, just  don't give out your handle.  What's the big deal?

Do you have an articulate (means you can actually write it out and back it up) reason for why alias reviews are wrong?  Or are you just parroting the women you suck up to on this site?

Can you really argue against implementing a way of protecting guys from harassment by a Provider that doesn't like a review?  I mean actually argue against it rather than your normal "it's wrong and you don't know shit motherfucker" tirades on issues for which you've been challenged.

You're going to bring out the ole' "Cowardice" thing, aren't you?  Well, let me save you some time.  Cowardice is blindly parroting the Mouthy Provider's position on something so that they don't get pissed at poor Mikey, not using an alias to avoid the obdurate (look it up) board and life stalkers that just can't leave well enough alone when somehow they've been offended by the written word or a review of their sub-par performance.

What's usually the first thing a provider does when a review pisses her off?  Hop on the boards, call out the reviewer, and start a shit storm.  Or, in extreme cases, stalk the board member's posts until she focuses on the next guy that pisses her off.

Let me simplify it for you.  If a vindictive provider is not going to like your review, you either have to use an alias for the review or an alias to post to avoid said stalking and harassment.  People tend to forget the stories that used to come out about how guys would not negatively review the Providers with Board Presence because they didn't want to have to deal with the fallout, with a net result of those Providers having higher review averages than were warranted.

Also, in my post, I believe that I even cited one reason for those who DO give out their handles to use an alias.  Wake up bro, you usually are smarter than this.

Tell me where I mis-understood, because all I pointed out was that if you take your own advice and don't give out your handle, you can retain your anonymity.  What's wrong with that, especially since you said it yourself?
The only response is, that unless your review is written very carefully, she'll know who wrote it from the description of the session.  If that's what you meant, it's a valid point.  But you didn't say that and I'm not a mind-reader.  And if you're really concerned, there are ways to cover your tracks in the review.  Assuming you are "smarter than this."  lol!

It's providers like you that I would want to avoid through the use of an alias.  You jump to extreme conclusions based on words for which you misread intent and then escalate disproportionately.

Take a hobby sabbatical due to a post on a net board.  Lady, you fire up quickly, don't you. LOL

any board activity under the same handle subjects you to board stalking on this site without having to give the TER handle in screening.

So, my advice is not to use the TER Handle ever, so that your personal info used for screening is not tied to the username, but that doesn't help your TER activity itself if you either don't use a Review alias, or constantly post with a board alias.  Does that make sense now?

alias posting a review could be LE!! Wow! Are you that stupid dude? Also it would leave us ladies wide open to FAKE REVIEWS! Sure this site is for the hobbyist but heres a news flash for you dipshit, YOU MUST HAVE PROVIDERS TO BE ABLE TO HOBBY!! Geez you're really a smart one there. Fucking idiot!
You want to know who it could hurt?? The providers and the entire community.
Now you want to say that you would never give out your handle? You obviously have a lot to hide.

to not know who the reviewer is and be able to check out their non aliased review history simply diminishes the value of the review. if i don't easily know who wrote it and can't check on the rest of their review history i'll ignore it.

i also think that in order to deter board, hobby, and real life stalkers a non aliased review is the best protection. i once had a somewhat negative review about a provider in my profile. it's not there anymore. it was accurate and honest as i could make it. it did not show me in a great light either.

so several of her WK's persuaded me to take it down. that's when the fun began and the lady in question really did a number on me.

so my experience is that the best protection is to document the misbehavior under one's handle. that is or should be alias enough, at least for me.

Your concern seems to be that LE would somehow post reviews under alias so that they can sting either a Provider or Hobbyist.

You can only create an alias if you are VIP;
To be VIP, you have to either pay or have qualifying reviews under your username;
Therefore, what you are saying is that LE would either pay or falsify reviews to get VIP so that they can falsify more reviews under an alias;

Really?  

What possible reason could LE have to post an alias review when they can post them under a real handle?  there isn't one.

So the alias nature of the review will not change the risk to the Hobbyist during research or to the Provider doing her screening; and even more so for the Provider because she doesn't trust alias reviews anyway.

Does that make sense to you now?  Betchya cute when you get all mad and stuff.

I already addressed the fake review issue above.

see above.

If you don't think the review is credible because of no review history, then you'll automatically rule it out.  So there is no issue with the alias review regarding your research.

More importantly, if you had used an alias for the review that brought that vindictive bitch down on you, you would never have had to deal with her unless you outed the alias.  So it would have actually protected you.

I'm not going to try to have a battle of wits with you as I find it unfair to fight an unarmed man.But I do have to say that any lady in this business who has ever had any dealings with you has my deepest sympathies ,you're a very angry,abusive and paranoid man (woman) and I would not want to have to spend a moment of my time with you in any situation.

Though you still have not explained how anyone would stalk you with an alias name on a review,or for that matter WHY anyone would want to.

Now what I want you to so Sir ,Miss whichever you are today..
Is take a nice deep cleansing breath pull your head out of your behind
and call your therapist.

The rest of your post is classic.  Ridicule the speaker when you can't effectively articulate your opposition to what he says.

Take a look at the providers who responded to me under alias for better examples of angry, abusive, paranoid, and in need of therapy.

we can identify the source of a real review.  

I'm actually sympathetic to the guys who fear retribution for a bad review.  But really, man up and post it anyway.  If the girl give you a hard time, back channel that info.

Alias reviews only encourage fake reviews.  A real review written under an alias will not be an alias to the girl -- we will know exactly who wrote it based on the details included.

all I can say is there's waaay too much paranoia implicit in what you say.  Perhaps (probably) I haven't been doing this long enough (not quite a year on TER) but I've never had a real problem.  Maybe I will at some point; we'll see.  But none of this is that important anyway.  TER is nice, but it ain't the entire hobby world, only a small slice of it.

Necessary. You are reinforcing that desire.

Again, I said the RISK of LE doesn't change with alias reviews.

In other words, such reviews are useless in determining who to see, as I have no access to the reviewers review history, which is an important element in ascertaining credibility and context.    

Just my three pennies this morning...

and i think i have an idea how much you really miss Jack. LMAO.

i wussed out on not renewing mostly because i didn't want to lose contact with a particular lady. it also occurred to me that since i can ignore an alias reviewer it needn't affect my research in a big way.

as for being protected, the alias review wouldn't have helped at all. she would have known who it was from the details. even had i written the review without any context or background (i was trying to be fair, my bad!) there were peculiarities that she would have recognized. having the review out there and NOT aliased was the best protection in this case.

Glad someone has our backs. Thanks xoxo

I do often figure them out on my own before the encounter though.  And I always know after the reviews post  No, I'm no high volume, but I definitely see more than three a month.  And more than three a week. (Not three a day, unless touring, and then that is the max - a morning, mid-day and night appt).  

NOTHING is true in ALL cases, but the odds are pretty good.

Away their (and their White Nights') ability to pressure a reviewer to change the review.  Again, the reviews are for us, not the providers.

For some reason i'm not a fan of the response box idea but  either way reviews under an alias as BAD m'kay.

This isn't to the OP but is directed to the general topic that came to dominate this thread... namely aliased reviews.  Some guys like the idea because they think it'll give them protection from ticked off ladies.  Some guys dislike the idea because they don't know how much validity to give an aliased review (was it an honest-but-unflatering review by someone of good standing, or was it a slap at a lady who wouldn't do off-menu items, declined a date, or wrote an unpopular sentiment on a board).  

I don't think I've heard one lady speak in favor of aliased reviews... but we all know there are some chickies out there who are off their rockers and, though they won't admit it, are the types to threaten/out/blacklist/etc over something so petty.  Instead of adding more layers of "anonymity" to the gents (useless to those who are decent human beings, dreadfully handy to those gents who are undeserving of the title) and creating such an environment of chaos and confusion... why not simply institute some sort of ... gasp... accountability?!

If a guy is being retaliated against in any provable fashion (not just the misguided paranoia that some exude), simply forward the offending email/PM/text to admin and after investigating (same process as for disputing reviews), if found to be a valid retaliatory effort on the part of the provider she is either delisted/banned or placed on a "Wacko List" so that anyone who looks at her reviews in the future can see what he's getting himself into.

Similarly, if a girl finds herself with a fake review (not just an unflattering one), and it is decided that it is indeed fake and removed... the gent posting it should either be banned (by IP, not just that particular user account) or be on a "Cheap Vindictive Bastard List" so that other guys can see who's reviews NOT to give any credence to. (Girls have blacklists for that sort of thing anyway, but other guys should know who among them is a douche as well)

When trying to curb bad behavior, the issue shouldn't be "how can we hide more" to be safe but should be "how can we hold people accountable" so that the bad behavior doesn't simply become more obtuse, rampant and more difficult to determine.  Instead, the perpetrators on either side of the aisle should become more visible and the community should have the knowledge, which should produce the ability to self-regulate.   Voila!  Everyone's happy!  

Except perhaps the psycho bitches and vindictive bastards.... They can all go play elsewhere as everyone here would be wise to their shtick.

What a grand concept. I can see the new search parameters now.
Avoid bad webiste? Check
Avoid bad reviews? check
Avoid Whacko psycho bithces? check

And then for the the men?
Whitelist? Ehhh...I don't think so.
Vindictive cheap bastard? Check.
Childish douchebag? Check

Example: around the beginning of the year I went to my ATF's profile on TER and found a new review.  As I read it, lo and behold, it was a word-for-word lift of a review of her I'd written on another site.  I checked with her first because I didn't want to have a positive review of her removed without her permission.  She said "Out the bastard," so I contacted admin, providing a copy of the original review.  The guy completely disappeared.  Maybe he's back under another name.  Who knows.  But sometimes the system works.

So all his reviews of other girls (if there were any others) have been taken down?  That's great!  

I just checked on the *cough* person who posted a fake one on my profile (removed, thank the Admin-Gods) and all his other reviews are still there.  I had informed Admin that after contacting half a dozen of the ladies he reviewed, no one had any idea who he was and one lady actually admitted that she knew the review was a fake but didn't dispute it because it was similar in rating to her others.  THAT is the type of thing I'd love to see go away.  This person had a review pulled after being unable to prove that the encounter ever happened, therefore he has lost his integrity and his reviews are meaningless to the community (harmful even, if you value truth in these matters), yet the rest of his BS still stands. How are you guys to know any better than to value his reviews? You don't know who he is or that he writes complete fiction (as opposed to fantasy like "real" reviews).  Neither the gents nor the ladies benefit from this.... And as it's highly unlikely he's a paying VIP, TER doesn't benefit either.  

The lady who *knowingly* let the fake review stay on her profile should also face consequences, IMO.

Definitely a novel concept in this day and age. Accountability, who woulda thunk it. Would that everyone thought it was a good idea. Thank You EC

There are no absolutes here.  Yes, the guy I mentioned completely disappeared. But who knows if he's back in another form?  I also had an experience like the one you cite.  I saw a well-reviewed provider but we just didn't click.  I gave her a 7/7 but was very complimentary in the Juicy Details because I felt it was just chemistry and not really her fault.  She PM'd me and asked that I have the review pulled.  Pussy that I am, I tried, but was told by Admin that, once posted, a review is the property of TER.  I let the lady know I'd tried and failed.  Next thing I know,  the previously-approved review is taken down and marked "unapproved" as "unverifiable."  What happened?  I'll never know.  But what seems obvious to me is the provider contacted Admin and told  them the date never took place, so they pulled it.  But if they really believed her why didn't they pull my other reviews and ban me for posting a fake review? (and yes, it was real)  It's called cutting the baby in two.  Shit happens.
What's the lesson:  an old Russian expression:  "Trust, but verify."  In this case, that means only trust reviews from well-regarded reviewers and PM a few before deciding to see someone new.  Or, of course, you can see BP girls.

If you dont think that LE would pay for VIP and falsify reviews then you are really a dumb ass.  You have no idea what and how far LE will go to bust our asses.  Give me a fucking beak!