why do so many guys want and expect their significant other to have a threesome with another girl but refuse to do the same for her by giving her a threeway with another guy?  isn't it only fair to give her one if she gives him one?  whenever the. Subject has come up i have heard excuses like "you like girls too and i don't like guys."  i am curious how people in the hobby feel about this.

egos. Guys do not want to be shown up or out done by another guy during sex. Also some guys think it is a little "gay" to be so close to another guys dick during sex. Then you have those that are territorial over their woman. But another guys might have a different perspective from mine.

I also think that some guys don't want to have to see their woman with another man and I can understand that.  What I don't understand is why some think that their woman should be OK with having to see their man with another woman if he is not willing to do the same for her.

with a girlfriend who asked me if I had any fantasies that she might be willing to fulfill. She actually asked one of her friends about it but the other gal had a boyfriend at the time who wouldn't approve.

what's up with the less and less blow jobs as time goes by?  i have heard many men say that.

...and having fragile egos.  Those that are secure in who they are more likely to be open to sharing.

But if my girl said that was a fantasy, I would give it a shot to please her. Pleasure is a two way street.

They lied

If a guy doesn't like guys, it's much more difficult for him to get through the experience. It's uncomfortable for him.

I think this whole thing boils down to stereotypes.

That said, today I will be trying my first MFM.  Looking forward to it, but the "F" is not my SO nor that of the other "M."  There will be no further details.

and put me in the "one penis to a bed" camp.

and I certainly agree that it is just rude and selfish to ask HER to go along with a threesome that she doesn't want, and not be willing to return the favor.

I kind of like threesomes, but I would never do a MFM, so I would never DEMAND my lady share our bed unless she was 100% into it herself.

Funny, I dated a provider not too long back who routinely did threesomes at work. One night, her, me and several of the girls she worked with were hanging around drinking and eating and one of the other girls mentioned having a threesome with us, My GF immediately said NEVER WITH BOYFRIEND, only with customer, which put an end to that fantasy. lol FWIW, I respected her view and I never brought it up  the rest of the time we were together, especially as I knew that she hated pretending to be bi during threesomes and only put on the act when she had to because we all do things we don't like at work.

and one last thing, your post made perfect sense.

which means by definition I am "sharing" my lady, but that doesn't mean I want to look at another hairy ass in bed with us.

It's just how I am wired I suppose, I don't have issues with guys who enjoy it, just count me out personally.

In this case the answer is usually as simple as "I don't like that" whatever "that" happens to be. In most instances that answer seems to be enough to suffice, but for some reason every time we get into a discussion of sexual preferences "I don't like that" doesn't seem to be a good enough answer for some people.

I can imagine doing either FMF or MFM.  Actually, in my mind I would be more comfortable with MFM.  I like seeing my partner have pleasure and since women's capacity for multi-orgasms means she has more endurance than I do.  I have enough to handle keeping one woman at a time satisfied, two might be too much to handle.  Maybe a FFM, with my partner in the middle.  

Somehow it is one of those things that turns of and I don't think even Viagra will help

Ego:  The point is made regarding the fragile male ego.  In a competitive world, guys want to be "winners", and not "loosers".  The fear may be that Johnson #2 will be better, faster, harder, stronger, than the junk they have.  If you have an ego on the edge, seeing someone else get their partner off better than they had in the past, might push you over the edge.

A lady--including an SO--should only be doing what she has a desire to do.  If she's doing a particular thing that thing in itself should be rewarding enough to merit participating in.  And this applies even when money comes into the equation--no one should expect you to do something you really don't like just because they have a white envelope with cash in it.  I have been a staunch and frequent defender of a lady's right to choose the activities in which she wants to partake.  The same rule must apply to men--we shouldn't HAVE to do a MMF any more than a lady should HAVE to do a FFM.

It's simple--we do what appeals to us based on desire and need. However if we are now to subscribe to your notion that the only reason someone isn't doing something I want them to is because of some misguided,  narrow minded failure of imagination, if a lady simply doesn't desire to engage in FFM how do you suggest I shame her into doing it?  And have you any guidance on how I can browbeat her into CIM, anal, BBFS and any other activities she simply has no desire to engage in?

seems to be the prevailing attitude.

I've said this for years, but I guess it bears repeating. So called "open minded hobbyists, sure can be a narrow minded, judgmental bunch"

I won't repeat last week's excellent responses to the charge of homophobia except to note that your response shows shallow thinking.  By your logic anytime an adult chooses not to participate in an activity there must be a bad motive.  Don't like CIM?  What's wrong with you? Don't do anal? You're a misguided prude. Won't fuck my two friends while I watch? Gee you must be a real neanderthal.  No BBFS?  You're clearly some sort of miscreant.  

and I agree it's not really my thing either, however, if I was in a LTR and this was a fantasy of my SO, then I would be open to it.  

If you don't want to do a FFM then don't fucking do it no matter what some man thinks you "should" do.  If we go down this path then we might as well all become hermaphrodites because apparently the only "fair" sexual encounter will be ones where each person can perform all the same acts on each other.

Presuming you're right (a big presumption because it ignores reality--lots of men AND women make choices based on other things than fear), then so what?  In this irreducibly intimate act it seems to me adults can use any criteria they want in choosing how to participate.  Just as a woman can choose not to do FFM or greek or CIM so can a man choose to not engage in certain acts. And her or his motives may be as inscrutable as they are irrelevant.  Questioning motives in this context seems to me one short step from shaming. If you're ok with that please let me know how I can shame every woman I meet hereafter into letting me do anything I want so as to prove she's a real woman.

But I sure wanted to do one with her and her sister.

I agree with you it is about choice and no one should be forced or shamed into doing anything they are not comfortable with. Not sure where I was questioning anyone's motives.  It is my opinion only that it takes a man that is secure in his manhood to participate in a three way with another male.

I agree, what IS up with that?

That's HILARIOUS! I had a totally hot sister-in-law too. Looked like Jen Aniston but with curves. Never hit on her, but sure though about it.

When it's been discussed, the other party admits she likes girls and I'm grossed out by another dude's body.
End of discussion.
We've done three mff and no mmf to date.  
It'd be more interesting if my partner was really into mmf.  
That said, we use multiple toys to penetrate every orifice of hers so maybe that's why it hasn't come up.  

I'm in the NYC area... and I have a small bevy of beauties into this..

"shame every woman I meet hereafter into letting me do anything I want so as to prove she's a real woman."

Rude? If she doesn't want a FFM, then leave it alone, same as you would leave it alone if the guy simply said "I just don't want to do it".  

And providers seem to get heat for that. Don't do CIM, don't do anal, won't allow gagging etc, sheesh some guys have even suggested finding a new job, that they're not cut out for hooking.  

but there would be no MM contact. If we just share her it'd be fun, but I also like the idea of watching my SO with another man if she wanted it.....

Should a guy who doesn't want to do cunnilingus try it or do it more than once as an incentive to his partner to do blow jobs?  Or vice versa? We do read about trends among teenagers where the young women are performing blow jobs at a much higher rate than they're having their pussies eaten.

I would do it for her if she really wanted that experience even though it may be hard for me.