really!!
Here is the situation. There is a provider in my area that is very cute with good reviews. I sent her a couple of emails with refs. and my descr. Well apparently she doesn't entertain black guys. I get it believe me I do. This is an intimate biz and no one has to entertain anyone they don't want to. I understand that, I respect that and I appreciate that.
But I saw several ads for her on backpage offering 1/2 hour rates. The economy in this part of the state is not that great. But I just for the life of my don't understand how you would offer 1/2 hour rates on backpage and turn down a black guy that is willing to book multiple hours???
The sex can't be that damn intimate if you are offering 1/2 hour rates on backpage. I mean WTF!!! Money is money.
In my previous career in banking I could just tell that some guys didn't like doing biz with a black guy but you know what. We both did it because it was business.
Sorry for the rant I just had to vent.
Now get out there and find a lady who would be thrilled to spend time with you!
such pure and straightforward logic.
so are equanimity and coolness. love it when a woman talks sense to me.... i find it extremely stimulating. illogically so 
My parents almost got divorced when my father insisted on naming my little brother Spock. My mother won, though it got slipped into his legal name somewhere in the middle...
So,I'm Mr.Spock's sister.
Pure and straightforward logic comes to us Virgos naturally.
Just one of the things that makes you so sexy.
And Mr. Spock was my childhood hero.
Sola's a hell of a lot better looking than Spock, or even his sister, if indeed he has one.
How simple! Move on and "find a lady who would be thrilled to spend time with you!"
Hugs to you Smart Sexy Sola! Betty
stay away from Virgo women.
and so far i've married and divorced every Virgo i've met and been attracted to. so i have no room to argue!
So what's the big deal? Live with it.
Providers have their preferences, and that's the bottom line. Move on, accept it.
Your frequent whining about it is nauseating.
Make sure you give penis size...
ROFL
( kidding but not )
This is in the top 3 reasons why a provider will not see black men.. because their penis is too large..
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and if they were, so fucking what! If the provider verified the client, it would have come up that he was a pimp and trying to recruit her.
I am not telling you how to run you biz, I just poining out the excuse that women do not see blacks because they are pimps is utterly stupid. Thats ALL.
Maybe you believe that all black guys have big dicks and no white guys do. That is a stereotype too. So, according to you, that is an utterly stupid excuse also.
It doesn't matter what we think of providers rationale for choosing who to see and who not to see. We make our choices and they make theirs. They certainly have that right, even though you may not like it.
When I read that post about size, you could tell that was a tounge in cheek joke. Any provider who see black men KNOWS that all black men does not have big dick but YOU did not realize that all pimps are not black.
For the second part read my post below, I said for every one provider who refuse you, there are 3 that will see you so get over it. When I make a stupid post and is corrected I man up...not defend it.
All I did was state one of the reasons I often hear providers give for not seeing black guys. How you can draw a deduction from that that it is a claim that all pimps are black is totally illogical.
from what I have been told by several ladies who perfer not to see AA's is not because he is black...
because the black guys tend to get there moneys worth so to speak and leave the girl sore and little worn out.
Can be aggressive and little to demanding, which tends to make it hard to be in control and providers have to be in control.
So white men are not aggressive?
AA gents...and I still have had my share of aggressors. There's one gent (white) who I will not see anymore because he pushed my limits way too mamy times. The agression got worse and worse as I continued to see him (he started out nice, so I didn't see his hatred for women coming from a long shot!). The money was great, but I felt so disrespected by the fact he would do stuff that would hurt me (knowingly). If I have to say please don't, I don't need to see you again no matter how much $ you can give me in the longrun. Green is not green, in his case. I stopped seeing him. He was NOT black. He was white. However, since I will not entertain sterotypes, I continue to see white men (I've been having a good time, at that!).
Also, in opposition to the sterotypes above, the black gents I have dated in my civilian life (white, Asians, etc. don't approach me in the real world as a girlfriend, rather solely a sexfriend) have had both small and large dicks! Anyone who has had their share of penises should know it doesn't matter the race, men in general may have small or large ones (trust me, even white and Asian men have big ones). My AA boyfriends were not aggressive unless it was initatied by me. I had one boyfriend who would never show any strength in or out of the bed. My boyfriends did not choose the occupation of a pimp (actually they would never even date a whore - there's no getting back together now!). Some of their occupations included: lawyer, real estate agent, NFL player, Fortune 500 corporate management, entertainment promotor, and scholar/trust fund baby living off his family's money. Anyway, that is my experience knocking down sterotypes for men of all races alike!
Happy Hobbying!
Xoxo, Giamarie
There was an ebony provider here I used to do doubles with,, She wouldnt see black men.. in fear of it being some sort of family member LOL
Honest she said to me " you know how many cousins and uncles us black girls have.. " Ill never forget it,, hysterical
Penis size is not the reason why they dont want to see black guys. Thats a myth that black men have bigger dicks.There have been studies by the kinsey institute that said this is not true. They said black men are longer when flaccid but when erect they are the same.white men actually edge black men out in some studies but they said it wasnt statistically significant.sorry black men
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Hopefully, the rant helped and I hope my PM will help as well. At least you understand it's not you but just someone else's ignorance. We're all just people.
You really get turned down often for being black? That sux. Perhaps its the stereo type black guys don't tip or will rob them?
As long as a girl is up front about it, I don't care if she doesn't want to see me because of my race. Frankly, I don't want to spend time with someone like that.
I'd rather find (and monetarily reward) someone who appreciated me as a human being, not someone who despised or feared the color of my skin.
There's too many wonderful ladies out there to spend time worrying about this.
I could care less what color skin you have, which deity you honor, your height, your size, your age, etc. All of these mixed up together make a unique YOU. As long as you are a gentleman, you will be welcomed into my arms and into my bed! There are many other ladies who feel the same and I hope you find one of them!
Hugs, Belinda
If she is a older provider, views on interracial relations die hard. Most of the black women I know in the civvie world resent white women with black men, so to that point so what if a white girl do not want to see you, move on
Secondly, younger white providers see blacks as being thugs because that what they see on BET and MTV and you come from smalltown USA, that is your perception. With the exception of Obama, few blacks are presented in the media as well spoken blacks.
I do understand your rant, you work hard and its like being told "no blacks allowed" but unless you plan to march on Washington, from my experience from every one to say no, three are willing...
Discrimination for sure. Sterotypes for sure.
But as We all can see by the Hotel in Boston's video cam...It is a white boy who murdered one of our ladies.
So...throw the garbage of sterotyping guys out.
I see anyone who is at first off a gent. Young, old, richor poor.
If you treat me with the respect and dignity I deserve. I will give you 100% of my respect and all the wild ass time you deserve.
Out country is build on individualism. And yeah go ahead and put me in the Kumbaya club. Hell I'll be the club president.
I have had issues with all colors trying to get over. Hispanic, Asain ,White and Black.
And if We are single handingly saying girls do not see brothas cuz they have huge cocks..
Then you might as well go tell the Persian men they are not welcome thru the door either...
Just my .02
I will see any man or woman....color signs are not hung over my kitty....
I love the variety pack!!!
Tell me about it. Anywhere I go it's all "We don't serve hookers" I'm at the end of my rope with this nonsense I tell ya. Kidding aside though, yeah everyone has got the right to serve whoever they want to, but look at it this way- if she's that particular about someone's skin colour, maybe you're better off hooking up (no pun intended) with a lady that cares about a different set of criteria. I'm sorry it happens so often though, it seems we're all prejudiced toward something or someone as much as we try to stay neutral.
V
I think she is just not attracted to you. Everybody has their type that they like. What about the providers that only see people under 35? Is that discriminatory? I guess but so what. That's how the world works. I wouldn't see a provider I wasn't attracted to and she has the same right. Some people will see anybody for some money. Some won't. Lets move on.
I never mentioned the word racist.
I simply stated I don't understand how you could turn down money in this biz (and it is a biz no matter what spin we put on it) in this economy.
She is offering to see guys for 1/2 hours. So obviously business is down.
I understand preferences in regards to sex. But the statement still stands. How the F--- can you turn down multiple hours with a guy who has refs and then go to backpage and offer 1/2 hours and don't even require refs. At some point it makes no FU----- sense.
Oh please just get over it would ya! Who cares if she books 15 minute appointments or friggin' car dates for that matter. It's her body and her mind and she gets to use it however she see's fit. It doesn't have to make sense to you.
And PLEASE stop trying to compare escorting to ANY other business. There is no comparison to be made. Unless part of your job at the bank was to suck strange guy's cocks five minutes after meeting them you have no argument!
You are under the assumption that since she is offering 1/2 hour sessions that her business is suffering. You could be right or you could be wrong. Any supposition you continue from that point is going to be viewed with suspicion since you have absolutely no idea the reasoning behind her business choices. She may prefer shorter sessions herself, she may find many of her clients aren't the types to stay around for a full hour. The point is "you don't know".
Also you cannot put a "biz" spin on this. Her personal sex life "from which she makes her living" is just that - "personal". Ask yourself a question, since you are stuck on the money aspect, would you let a well screened nice gentleman have sex with you? For any amount of money? You must realize yourself that there are some things we as people just won't do sexually for money. She has made a decision in her life as to what she won't do for money. So move on, and don't get so upset over a decision someone else has made for their own life.
b-
You ask: "How the F--- can you turn down multiple hours with a guy who has refs and then go to backpage and offer 1/2 hours and don't even require refs."
The answer, as distasteful as it may be, is simple and obvious: she would rather be broke than sleep with a black man.
Whether someone calls this preferences or prejudices, it's a fact of life that we have to accept, even if we don't understand. And my question remains, what would you want to spend your hard-earned money on someone who viewed you as inherently inferior? If she doesn't want to see a black man with great references who's willing to do a multi-hour session, I say let her go enjoy her 30 minute sessions with any randon white man who calls her phone.
Some brothel houses will announce to the ladies ahead of time if there are men of color choosing in a line up. The reason for this is so that ladies who will not see them can opt out of the line up. The biggest reason for ladies opting out? Not because they were afraid the men might be recruiting pimps, but because THEIR pimps were black and did not want their girls with any other black men. Period.
Certainly there were some ladies who opted out for other reasons mentioned, but in the high 90 percentages, it was because of their own pimps, pure and simple.
And if a lady happened into a lineup and was chosen? You can bet your bottom dollar that man would be back out of her room in under 5 minutes flat! Yes, no matter how much money, how clean cut he was. I think they were afraid another girl might rat them out or something if they did the party. Interesting, I would think their men would want all the money they could get, especially in these types of economical times!
Could this perhaps be the same with independents as well?
Honestly, who cares why a particular provider will not see you? You shouldn't even care! Granted, white women are a hot commodity, there is no vagina out there so important to be concerned about why you can't have it. There are too many other providers out there!
You may think that I don't understand where you are coming from, but I do. I know there are gentlemen who will not see me because of my brown skin. I was told this by one of my ATF (a white gent) who told me it might be easier for me to go full-time if I were white with blonde hair (I trust him on that). However, I don't look like that and I don't care that it will prevent some gentemen from seeing me. Why don't I care? Because there are some many other lovely gents out there who will see me!
So, really, who cares? Is she a Victoria's Secret model, Halle Berry, Salma Hyack or some super star who matters? If not, then when it truly comes down to it her not wanting to f*ck you shouldn't matter, just as it doesn't matter if a gent passes up my ad or website because he doesn't want to "do" a brown-skinned gal. There's someone out there who does...call me whoever and wherever you are!
I hope you find what you are looking for in this hobby. Certainly, it should not be someone who does not want you, rather someone who would be delighted to entertain you!
Happy Hobbying!
Xoxo, Giamarie
thank you gml! for your clear, concise, common sense response. you are wise beyond your years
