I have a friend in this biz that had a client who brought a gift of lingerie to an initial appointment, presented a gift and asked her to wear it.... and at the end of the session he actually negotiated for a discount based on his good nature and winning ways.... PLUS he DID give her the present she wore during their session.

How dispicable that after she said no to his less than generous offer, the guy could not resist giving her a little slam in a review.... Hammered her really... and hid behind the old YMMV deal...

I just wondered how common it is for guys to bring gifts then expect discounted rates? I wonder hom many poor "YMMV" reviews are a result of failed negotiations for cheap service. I wonder how Staff can fairly recognize actual YMMV from the phony "YMMV."

It's a tough business out there...

Then demand all sort of extras and discounts. Then if they don't get them, they'll slam them in a review.Believe me, this happens more then we think! And some girls give into this.

never saw him again after that....

IMHO any guy who does that and is caught should be banned from TER. Question is, how to detect it? Any idea?

Which girls give into this?  Just kidding.  I've never considered using a favorable review to be a negotiating tool.  I write reviews based on the service rendered.  Besides, if someone were to pull that crap what stops the girl from saying "Get the f*ck out of here and I'll spread the word you're doing this and you won't get any play in this town."?  That could put a big damper on one's activities if they live there.

Never cease to be amazed by the number of total dick heads out there. I shouldn't be surprised I guess and hopefully the old 80/20 rule applies here as well...80% of the hobbyists are fun loving, clean, friendly and respectful; the remaining 20% are the typical redneck dumb f**ks who can't do anything right...including getting laid! I suspect it is for that select group of hobbyists that the YMMV factor was invented!

I had a provider, who in my opinion gave less than stellar performance ask me to give her 9's or 10's...she promised to make it up to me.

Well, I didn't care for her to begin with and after that realized that it is a two way street.  I'll say that a lot of her reviews have 8's and 9's...makes me wonder what SHE does to get them.

This website is a great resource for hobbyists and providers but like anything the information it provides is only as good as that being put in...I for one wish for world peace, an end to starvation, great boobs to look at in the park and honest reviews

With no strings attached.  I've brought gifts to some of my "dates" without ever asking for or expecting anything special in return, other than to have a good time.  Anyone who practices this "art" is simply an asshole.

It has happened to me on another board where they have an elite group of gents.  He tried to get me to see him for a discount and then said in low threatening tone..."You do know I am____?"  Since then I will not see any gents of that particular group.  He wanted discounts to unsafe prctices etc.  He then proceeded to send me pics of other ladies he has been (pics he took for his eyes only) with one dressed as an ice-cream sundee. Do I need to explain where the bananna was?

He then went on to post a review about how I would not see him since he was a ---member of that group.  The mod did delete that review.



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I think all a handle gets for you sometimes is getting around the screening process, I know mine has, Now as for "YMMV" it can be very important ... I love DFK, and I have been with ladies that don't, but they do with me, I have ladies that don't allow digit insertion, then I'll show them where there "A" spot is .. so I've just had a killer date or maybe we didn't click should I rate her low because of our non clicking ... No I shouldn't, neither should a hobby get the impression that just because she let's down her guard with me that she's going to do it for everyone so ... guess what Your Mileage May Vary .....

I admit, I'm not a very activie hobbyist, but that wreaks. Often providers offer seasonal discounts or specials. That's when Mr. Discount needs to do his playing. I did this resently, but had on hand the full amount for the session I was booking. I ended up paying full price. Not because of being asked or bargained for. Just because I got everything and more than I hoped even though she was seeing me for what she thought was a lower rate. Funny thing too, is I bought her a gift and a card and had cnadles and fresh linen....and I even showered and shaved! My wife should be so lucky! (j/k) Sorry to ramble, but jerks rub me the wrong way and make it tougher on the rest of us.

Hum,,,Interesting but interesting enough. Guys sometime bring me gifts...a matter of fact I had two that brought me quite a few sets of lingerie, but never asked for a discount. The suprising thing is that they both drove a great distant and paid for the hotel.

One thing I have learned is not to post that I accept gifts on mysite then I do not have to worry about someone trying to negotiate with me on my fee because personally....I do not discount the service I surrender.

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