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Scaramouche 211 Reviews 2446 reads
posted
1 / 24

Just sharing an interesting article on financial planning for sex workers. NOT an endorsement or recommendation of any kind, just something to think about....

https://www.thinkadvisor.com/2022/02/14/why-working-with-strippers-makes-sense-for-financial-planners/?kw=Why%20Working%20With%20Strippers%20Makes%20Sense%20for%20Financial%20Planners&utm_source=email&utm_medium=enl&utm_campaign=financialplanninginsider&utm_content=20220216&utm_term=tadv

SinCitySinner 67 Reviews 100 reads
posted
2 / 24

it seems a tad bit expensive to me for an average girl.   Let's say a normal money manager charges on an average 1% of your assets, for $350 per month (equalling to $4200 per year) to be worth it,  the client would need total assets of $420,000.  I don't think most 20 some yr olds have that kind of money sitting around to be managed.  

 
There is a ton of free knowledge out there. There are tools out there which allow you to create a household budget for free. You can even create  a well diversified portfolio for little to no money. If you don't know how, either you can learn or pay someone a one time fee to do so. Roboinvesting has really taken off in past few years. That's where  you just provide the investing software with information about your age, goals, risk tolerance, etc and the brokerage will buy securities on your behalf, and yes do automatic rebalancing of your portfolio as well.  

 
Finding a good CPA is also not hard. Heck ! if you are in sex trade, just find a client who is smart.. There used to be couple of very qualified CPAs on TER..  

 
Key in financial planning is discipline in saving and investing.  There is an old adage that is so true when it comes to stock market. "Its the time in the market, not timing the market !"  That's why a simple concept like DCA (Dollar Cost Averaging) has proven to be so effective over the long haul.  

 
Common pitfalls to avoid are reckless spending usually stemming out of one confusing needs v/s wants, fear of investing,  recklessly day trading,  getting sucked into investments you don't understand, believing in snake oil salesman..  I could go on and on, but you get the point.

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lester_prairie 12 Reviews 101 reads
posted
3 / 24

I'm not sure why you would need to explain your source of income to a financial planner.  

Newto1000 100 reads
posted
4 / 24

You don't; however, my investment recommendations for a hot-shot 30-year old programmer at Google will be entirely different than those for a 30-year old hooker who might be making the same amount of income.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 91 reads
posted
5 / 24

for important for we mongers than for sex workers.  After all, we are the source of their income, and I'm sure they all want to sleep well at night knowing that we are not going to run out money.  The only two fears I have financially are that 1)  I will run out of money while my dick still works, and 2) my dick will stop working and I still have money left.  Proper planning can avoid both of these, but it takes work to tread the fine line of making your money last JUST LONG ENOUGH.    

SinCitySinner 67 Reviews 95 reads
posted
6 / 24
36363jensen 4 Reviews 97 reads
posted
7 / 24

One, there's clearly a section of the market for financial advice that may well be under served due to stigma but it has similar characteristics to markets like pro athletes. Seem like a reasonable business model to start with.

 
I agreed with a number of your points, it's not that complicated and more often than not providers will have someone that sees them that can provide a lot of good advice. However, that is a different relationship and not without it's own problematic aspects (think broadly in the who principle-agent and conflict of interest area).

 
I also wonder about the pricing concern. At 350/month a girl charging 350/hr would need to have something like 5 sessions a day, 5 days a week to make the fee about 1%. That doesn't seem too far off given I think most providers in that price range want that level of volume (though some will not get it I agree).

John_Laroche 107 reads
posted
8 / 24
SinCitySinner 67 Reviews 112 reads
posted
9 / 24

Looks like you are thinking more in terms of annual gross income. $420K/yr income. Income of that magnitude  is not easy in any line of work.   As long as there are assets (preferably liquid) totaling over $420K that would work. Now that's not very hard , but it may take a 20 yr old girl some time  to get there.

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phlatsy 6 Reviews 93 reads
posted
10 / 24

lots of beer and whorehouses.  90% of what I've spent was on alcohol, women, and debauchery.  The rest I squandered.

 
But seriously, I did not read the article but from the comments I see there is a fee for this planning.  Rather than waste money on advisors, buy an online subscription to The Wall Street Journal and perhaps Fortune.  Investing is easy, buy and hold as stated earlier.  No load mutual funds based on an index always are a good start.  Get funds from several different fund companies directly through their websites and bypass broker fees.  After a decade or so, consolidate with the one company that you like best and some perks will soon become available.  The most common perk for those with over $250K is a review of assets by a financial advisor bound by fiduciary requirements.    As Jack Bogel once, "never fall in love with one fund but do fall in love with a fund family."  Personally, I would never take financial advice from other than a self-made multi-millionaire, and they don't need to sell advice for a living.  

SinCitySinner 67 Reviews 102 reads
posted
11 / 24

He was a wise man..  I, therefore, like Vanguard mutual funds. No load and very low expense ratio.  Charles Schwab Mutual funds are also pretty good.  

 
Some fancy pants like ETFs as they allow all kinds of funny business like stop orders, limit orders, short selling, but I like simple Mutual Funds, something you can put on auto-pilot and buy every week or every other week, and over past 20 yrs or so, it has served me very well.  Don't try to be the next hedge fund by trading day and night - most people lose their pants that way.  

 
Robert Kiyosaki makes a very profound statement in his book, Rich Dad; Poor Dad that you pay yourself first then you pay your other bills.

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36363jensen 4 Reviews 114 reads
posted
12 / 24

That's fair but fresh out of college just starting a career (or business) are not going to look for any on-going financial planning service either. Even a provider starting out -- well I would say one that has proven they can make money by lasting close to a year -- could benefit from hiring someone at 350/month for a few months to get informed about planning and have some structure to take for their own.

 
But I don't think a 350/month service is targeting the lower end, low volume ladies or those that are not yet there. And I took the article to be more from a perspective of financial planners targeting customers rather than really advice to every provider to get that service (though I do think they all should learn about personal financial management and basic money management).

SinCitySinner 67 Reviews 49 reads
posted
13 / 24

I remember  that not until too long ago every time I would trade Vanguard it would cost me $19.99, Which meant frequently buying was a bit cost prohibitive.  That's no longer the case.  Paying commissions on trade is the thing of the past.  This allows retail investors like me to buy on a periodic basis., and in smaller increments if I choose to. Great for some 20 yr old who is just starting out. They can invest $100-200 a week.  

 
You hit the nail on the head yourself.. Saving and Investing is the key.. People spend way too much money on frivolous stuff... Starbucks...getting nails done..constantly eating out.. . LOL.  

 
I know it's not a popular thing to say on a fuckboard, but I end up saving close to 40-45% or so of my income, and I don't make a million bucks a year either.. Not having any girlfriend, wife, kids, child support, alimony  etc helps.

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phlatsy 6 Reviews 47 reads
posted
14 / 24

Yeah, never married here either.  It did make it easy to save.  

For some reason, I don't remember Vanguard charging when I bought directly from them.  May if a broker was involved they would charge.  I've never used a broker for that reason.

SinCitySinner 67 Reviews 45 reads
posted
15 / 24

You are right. If you bought directly thru them, you didn't have to pay.. I bought thru E*Trade.   A while back even they stopped charging to get more competitive.  It wasn't until recently that I found out that buying directly through they could have saved me transaction fees.. LOL

SinCitySinner 67 Reviews 45 reads
posted
16 / 24

At $350/hr that's equivalent of 714 hrs of work/yr.  That is 1.95, one hour appts every day

 
At $400/hr that's equivalent of only 675 hrs of work/yr  That is 1.71 one hour appts every day.  

 
The fact that there are going to be expenses like hiring a booker, hotel or permanent incall, plane tickets for traveling etc is not lost on me..

insideinfo 66 Reviews 91 reads
posted
17 / 24

Working as an advisor for the past 22 years, the worst (by return %) investors I've witnessed:
>  day traders
>  option traders (who don't heed to the rules)
>  those who are too risk conservative (not buying ANYTHING but insisting on holding on to that "new idea that will change the world", however, it' still a penny stk 15 years later)

 
The best?
>  Teachers/Educators/Govt bureaucrats (yeah who would've thought?)
>  Those that placed their limit orders and "let the mkts come to them"
>  Those who stepped up when the shit hits the fan (2001, 2009, 2020)

Finally, those who profess to know the next big thing on a social media post, usually have been crushed themselves because they are one of those I listed on top.

invest as early as you can, be greedy when everyone else is shitting their pants (Buffet quote), and if you get the gambling itch....take a few hundred and go to the track/casino/favorite provider and get it out of your system.

SinCitySinner 67 Reviews 50 reads
posted
18 / 24

Nothing in their financials supporting that kind of meteoric rise. I am more surprised that it has sustained to the levels which it has than its original rise in the first place.  If you just look at their cashflow statements, they are bleeding money each quarter from their operating activities.  

 
Just a bunch of kids on reddit decided they want to gang up and shoot up the price of the stop.  

 
I am sure lot of short sellers lost their money, but so did folks who bought into the craze and thought it was going to be the next Google or Apple..  

 
Hence, I don't buy individual stocks.  

 
The only stock I really own is my previous employer that I used to work for before becoming self employed.

looking4918 13 Reviews 98 reads
posted
19 / 24

Any of these girls would be just fine with the classic three fund portfolio of Vanguard Index Funds. On a side note  
Jack Bogle would roll over in his grave if he knew how Vanguard was being run today.  

insideinfo 66 Reviews 46 reads
posted
20 / 24

According to my 14 yr old....no one buys anything from Gamestop anymore, except if you are playing on a console (XBox, Playstation, etc).  They all get their gaming elsewhere.

Agreed SinCity.....  Reddit boards are the old Yahoo Boards of the 1990's.......

The sad thing though nowadays.....with places like Robinhood popping up and wanting everyone to trade commission free..... it has led to something more dangerous......   investing being replaced by gambling

Kitty76 See my TER Reviews 95 reads
posted
21 / 24

First of all, Why even get a financial planner involved in your finances when you are an Adult Entertainer & Etc. The Whole purpose of being an Escort/Dancer/Sugar Baby & Etc. is for the easy tax free $$$$CASH$$$$. You as the Adult Entertainer should be able to do your own financial planning.

inicky46 61 Reviews 91 reads
posted
22 / 24

The fact that escorting is a cash business has zero to do with whether or not you need financial planning advice. Most girls don't know anything about it and desperately need advice. You can't really hock your Loubies when you retire.

SinCitySinner 67 Reviews 94 reads
posted
23 / 24

Now you know why we don't get married, although I love you to death..

 
Sometimes you just don't act like a smart person..  That was not a good post..

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