Especially with the help of a providers personal websites and the like.  Hobbyist just a heads up, this is the quickest way to get the cold shoulder!!!!!, pls. use better contact etiquette.  
Providers: pls chime in.

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I am surprised that someone would ask you a question like that. I know before I see a provider I go to her site and check the prices. Very surprising considering how much the cost of living is in NY/NJ.

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Fore they think with their dicks and not their brains. Even in the age of the internet, some men lack the neccessities and you wonder why they even get out of bed.

People do not read the rules...
People do not understand the rules even when they read the rules
People think that the rules apply to others...and not themselves
People think that they can negotiate "I will not negotiate my price"
People do not think.


Worked in the public sector and taught too long....  my patience for such is WAY toooooo short.

But there is also the flip side, the provider who posts:

Susie Smith, a long legged, busty blond will be in town for three days.  She is the true GFE and positively adores balding men in their late 50's who have a paunche.  Especially when they are totally boring and really need a shower and breath mint when they show up in their polyester stretch pants and Izod knit shirt with the sweat stains under the arms....   so for a great time, gimme a call.

Please when calling do not mention money or specific sexual activities.  Such inquiries will result in my hanging up on you immediately...

My prices are non-negotiable.

And there is 1) no number or email listed and 2) no price whatsoever in the post, or on their web site!  Please ladies!  these are essentials!  please list them!

Look at both sides of the coin. Rates are constantly changing. I look at reviews on this site and know damn well that the profile states rates that are not current. I also know of a few providers here in SoCal that are well reviewed (and are frequent posters on these boards), that have different rates listed on different advertising sites. What are we, as the hobbyist, supposed to do in these situations?

I'm not advocating asking rates, but, there can be some confusion on our end. I would not like to be in the position of leaving less than the expected rate in an envelope when I thought I was in the right.

NSF

It is funny to see their reaction in the email. Yet another reason to find another provider when they play games like that. That is a potential indicator for drama issues down the road.

However, sometimes it's really not the lady's fault. I've been showed a few times by friends where I haven't given permission to post on a site and they have old pictures of me that I didn't authorize and the wrong donations. However, my website is always correct and I would never veer from my website and try to upsell anyone. That's not professional or ethical. Besides, my donations are actually lower than when I first started. Go figure! I'm a sucker for being fair and accommodating.

Hugs,
Ciara

Thos who ask me are more then likely calling from an add out there and all they did was see your picture and wrote down your #. Even though all my adds clearly state to view my website for all information. Most of them that are asking have no clue what a review board is. They goggled escort and clicked Eros, I am pretty sure that the men of this board are not the ones asking these silly questions. I simply redirect them and most of the time never hear from them again. This is one reason I hardly answer my phone, and my VM clearly states that they will have better luck e-mailing me from my site. Yet my VM box is always full and I never answer them. So the legit men of the board are lost in the VM porthole and then complain that we never answer our phones.

Once, I was hiring and personel got "involved."  I wanted to give each applicant for the position a simple work related performance test.  It was simple, I would give them a list of tasks to be performed.  These were VERY elementary lab procedures - things I would expect a FRESHMAN in college to be able to do.  I was told that was unfair.

Why?  Because in the "real world" or so the personel person believed, I would be there to "guide them through" the procedures and hence the test was not reflective... in short... I could not evaluate the ability of a person to follow simple directions...

I have found that sadly, most people cannot !!  case closed.

So, does it say somewhere in your ads or website that you have no intention of answering your phone or returning calls? What a waste of time...just get rid of the phone and save everyone the frustration...

I get alot of guys who call from my Eros ad & then ask my rate which is on the ad! Usually when someone asks my rate, I refer them to my website. I have to agree that is annoying when it is posted all over the place.

Also, why do so many guys make a date and then ask about GFE, etc when it's in the reviews? I have had that happen way too many times. One guy scheduled a 3 hr date the other day & after giving his info for screening, asked if foreplay was going to be a problem. Hello, am I really supposed to answer that? Geez.

I like when gentlemen read my website/ads before contacting me and don't ask too many silly questions.

Sara

I've seen where a provider was advertising a special that was lower than she had on her site.  I just left the donation listed on the website, but no more.  I think you're safe leaving the larger donation.  I don't like having any discussion of $.

How much time I'm expecting how much money I will pay.  That's standard with me.  Up till the agreement, I don't mention it.

I am often grandfathered.  I have to go by my memory of the donation level in the past.  I am not going in there hoping she remembers the same numbers that I do.    

Sorry if it seems poor etiquette, but I think it's important to recite the precise understanding before the session.

If you must, then say "Is the donation up to date on your website because that's what I'm going by? Or, are offering a special that I should know about?"

Hugs,
Ciara

What if her rates are not on her website, but her TER review page has rates (based on previous customers)? Is it fair to assume that she's know what rates have been posted on TER and that she'll mention it if these rates are no longer accurate?

What about cases where the provider is inconsistent in what she allows (i.e. with some customers she allows dfk or daty and with others she doesn't, based on her reviews)? Is it inappropriate to ask if she'll allow these things in your session?

I just never considered how jarring any discussion of donations could be.  Your tact is in order.

She's directly responsible for that.  

No, I don't think it's appropriate to ask her what she allows.  She can't say that directly on her site.  There it's better to go with reviews.  (Though I've seen one lady who went into exact and complete detail on her site about what the client could expect.  I couldn't believe it.)  If you bring it up to her, she is liable to think your LE and end any other communications.

If she doesn't then ask her where to find the listings. Also, ads placed on Eros, etc., will usually have a link to a lady's website. If not, perhaps you should move on to another lady.

If all else fails say, "I didn't notice any donations to your favorite charity. Would you like me to make a contribution to the Red Cross? If so, what do you think is an acceptable donation? I hope this will help the flood victims."

Hugs,
ciara

Although most ladies do put their rates on their websites some ladies have websites with no rates or when you go to their rates page it simply asks you to inquire about rates.  

It is not unheard of for ladies to advertise under different names on different websites with different rates in order to capture as many hobbying $$$ as possible.  In fact that is almost exactly what one well-known provider said when it was noticed that she was advertising in several different places under different names with different rates.  

I agree with Zinaval that the place to look for a lady’s rates is on her website and those rates should be good.  I can understand why he feels the need to confirm those rates because we have had a few incidents in the past where the ladies were raising their rates but had not updated them on their website.

I don’t think that using the rates from the provider’s reviews are as reliable as her website.  However I know of a few ladies who always requested that TER change the rates on their reviews when they made a change in their pricing structure on their websites.  Within a day or two it seemed like their review profile was also updated to reflect their new pricing structure.  From a business standpoint that seemed like a great idea but I am not sure that many providers actually bother to do this.

It has been mentioned but I want to re-mention it. It works BOTH ways. Guys should check the web site, and ladies POST your donations. I have seen some sites that do not post price/donations at all. For these women I just move on because it isn't worth the headache.

Then you have the PSE where the lady has her main site....for guys wanting a PSE what do you guys do? Some of the ladies do ask that you call to "set things up." Do Pornstars not really care about talking price? Just thought I'd add to the discussion. If this has been asked forgive me I haven't read every single thread.

First, I wish that TER reviews, like a couple of other sites, mentioned the specific amount paid for that session plus the particulars (1 hr, 2 hr, Greek, etc).  That would at least give an idea of what the most recent donation amount is plus a fair idea of services rendered.
Second, many providers I've seen either don't want reviews (for a variety of reasons, the most common being that YMMV and may not want to do certain things with some future client(s) that she did with a prior client(s) OR have requested gory details be left out for the same reason.  Either way, I just do the review as I feel I'm not doing right by my brother hobbyists

This CIARA...I think I love her.