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Re: it's only for models, so enforcing it will be rather easy.

You are suggesting that telling a woman to do something is easy????


LOL

and that really never goes away. The same women who were once anorexic also become over eaters later in life many times. We are bombarded with FAKE images that guys try and convince us are real, and how we should look. Do I want to be thinner? Sure, but not for some guy!

On the other hand, we all have our issues, and we all need to take responsibility for them.

Saying that there are other factors only goes so far in my mind.

The mirror over my bed says, "Object larger than they appear." Makes the guys feel good about themselves.

With a touch of sarcasm for good measure.

I have no problem with truth in advertising. But this legislation does not require all marketers to disclose retouching, just women's fashion. I resent such paternal implications that women as a group need extra protections for our delicate egos.  

I was almost arrested for daring to discipline my child in a restaurant because she was about to run into a busy street, being we were dining outside. Oh yea, so if I let her get killed, I am guilty of negligent homicide, but if I smack her on the ass to sit her down, I am abusive. You can't win.

It is sad that the govt. has to step in and start telling certain businesses what they need to do, when in reality they should have common sense. I remember that Hooters lawsuit where they fired the girl because she no longer fit in the uniform...classic. No one said she had to work there, but the rules state you have to be able to 'fit' in the damn uniform. What's next....making the Dallas Cheerleaders accept women who are over 300 pounds?

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Re: I put my weight and height in that BMI, and it said I was average or normal. I beg to differ.

UMMMMM????? Aren't you in a way getting paid not to eat. See how your business is if you weigh 140.

Remember: models are supposed to look good with their clothes on.  Most look emaciated without clothes.  I prefer a woman who looks best buck nekkid.  Or maybe with a few wispy shreds of lace.

Not that it will ever happen, mind you.  

Take away the incentive.

Yes, unhealthy people incur a greater percentage of health care costs which are then passed on to the rest of us.  Instead of the answer being MORE gov't regulation (which hasn't seemed to work so far), try the opposite.  Give people more freedom.  Let those of us who are healthy form our own group plans and thereby reduce our costs while those who are sucking up the resources are left to cover the cost for their own choices.  Simple.  People won't change until it becomes too painful for them to remain unhealthy... and as it is, we feed them into obesity, pay them to stay home and be unhealthy, pay them to have children they can't afford, pay for their knee/hip replacements and motorized wheelchairs (and all the other medical stuff they need) and do it all in the name of 'compassion'. What is compassionate about incentivizing ill health and laziness? What is "fair" about making the rest of us pay for it?  Nothing.  Yet here we are...

We are all already paying for those that are too lazy to be motivated enough to even get a job. Those that sit at home, get disability for a condition that others work with everyday, and get government supplemented insurance and a check. Where do you think that money comes from? It comes from the taxes we are forced to pay to cover the lazy asses that won't go out and work for it like everyone else.

I see the abuse of the system first hand everyday. I don't want to work my ass of so that other people can benefit from me, but it is what it is. The current system is flawed and the control that is being considered is a bandaid to the problem that has already been created. The government control you mention is not the answer just another fissure in a broken system.

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Last time I checked the only healthcare WE pay for are for those who can't afford to pay it on their own.My premiums have not gone up in over 5 years, so don't know who you are using. Granted, sick people suck up resources but if they have private insurance they PAY for, it's better than those sucking on the govt. teet and not paying a dime.

We have to support certain govt. programs from our tax dollars yes, but I have yet to be taxed on someone with private insurance.

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Government should decide anything that effects the "common good". So a one child per couple rule should be enforced. Cars should be banned. People with genetic defects should be eliminated (I'm fucked because I wear glasses) and of course mandatory military service is the rule. Live free angry get locked up.

I work hard on taking really good care of myself health wise and it does irk me greatly that those who do not, I am helping to subsidize their lack of common sense and will power.

London,, no the post was not directed at you..  it directed at Saturnsky and her ignorant posts

The post was directed at people who claim to think that the nations medical premium hikes are due to fat people ,,

When ive seen many many many skinny people put garbage down their throat and drop dead of heart disease..

Plus it was a general rebuttal to the overall misconception of what healthy is, because, we have been lead to believe a very skewed way of seeing beauty because of media.. and what we in our current state consider healthy,, has only evolved in the last 80 years,, when humans have been around for thousands,,

I regards to the law,, I think its interesting.. sometimes to change a way of thinking extreme measure need to be taken..
I mean if they are thinking of their future generations and what they want them to think is healthy and want to start changing that status quo,, it certainly makes an interesting point..
And its the agencies that force  models to starve themselves,, I know this because Ive worked as an Art director and have been present for some brutal model calls,, and have seen a casting director tell a girl who is flawless that she needs to get to 2 inch thinner somewhere, by such and such a date and i dont care what you have to do get it done..
so being forced to gain weight is no different than being forced to lose weight,, and agencies have gotten out of hand..
and then that starved image gets put on print,, and that leads young ladies to starve themselves to fit that image.. and you can tell agencies all they want that is not a healthy practice,, but they will continue..

This isnt an issue of fat or thin ,, the problem is that most of our culture has an unhealthy relationship with food,, and its starting to have a damaging impact on our children.. bulimia, anorexia, obesity..
Its killing our kids..

A weight limit that you have to stay above,,, frankly I think thats brilliant..
Something that makes the agency accountable for what they do to their models,, awesome
I think forcing the issue that thin is not in, but healthy is in,,, is fantastic..
Israel wants to set a standard,, and I wholeheartedly agree with it.
Afterall we are talking about the middle east,, where for thousands of years,, they have always loved their women jiggly,, its where Belly Dancing originated from,, and let me emphasis BELLY.. part of the allure of the dance was the flesh that Danced, when the body moved,,

Its time to come out of the thin closet and start accepting that women in all shapes and sizes are beautiful and can be presented beautifully versus that one standard that we have been choking on for the last 80 years..

*standing ovation for Israel*

The Reader's Digest version ?
Who even reads that anymore ?

Oh wait ,, were you trying to be clever? Thats cute,, how is that working out for you?

By the way you listed some agencies that dont even deal with that aspect of research..

And actually you blanket statement on their research and findings are directed at morbidly obese,,
and recent studies have come out that have said, its not fat that kills you ,, its bad fat that kills you,,
And even better, there have been studies released that say that a little chub isnt gonna kill ya,,
And that maintaining a BMI of 20-30% and a size 12-16 is ideal..

So you might want to put your pretty little head back in a book..

what is it again,, trans fat versus saturated fat,,

Again, going its going back to our cultures unhealthy relationship with food..

And yes I am minimizing the burden that fat people have on society, because our nations health issues and the rising cost of medical premiums dont exclusively come from there,, there has been an  expenential increase in terminal illness due to Cancer, which doesnt boil down to fat,, it boils down to mutated DNA.. which can be found in just as many skinny people as in fat ones..
And smoking,, which last time I checked wasnt an issue exclusive to fat people..
Heart Disease, which isnt mutually exclusive to fat people either..
SuperStrains of Viruses, because we have over medicated the population and have created weakened immune systems ,,

Plus its also highly ignorant to believe that drug companies and insurance companies have your best interest at heart,, they dont make money in preventative measures , they dont make money in cures,, they make money on sick people,, and if you dont think reports and research has been altered to make it look like it one particular groups fault for the rise in health care ,, that those same drug companies and insurance companies give money to to write,, so as a nation we can point fingers at a particular group while those companies behind closed doors are laughing all the way to the bank,, when in fact its been brought to light several times that they blatantly bend us over for the sake of their profits then you need to do some more research,,

Its not a tin-foiled hat conspiracy,, when facts and evidence to it have been put right in front of us..

To continue to point fingers at the fat people for the nations rise in medical costs is ignorant and lazy because its scape-goating.. lets focus on the fat people,, while we still have chemicals and toxins being pumped into our air, our foods , our environment that are just as much to blame for our nations deteriorating health as fat is..

So I invite you to expand your mind a little past what you have been told is the truth..
I know this may be a difficult step for you and can be kinda scary but you might learn something.

And when I say media im talking about advertising, promotions and marketing,, the fashion and entertainment industry who gave us Kate Moss and said that was the standard to compare too..
When Nicole Richie who was a chubby went a dramatically lost so much weight that you could see rib bones.. thats the kind of media Im talking about.. our children dont give two shits about journalism.. thats not what they watch on TV or are exposed to in magazines..

You want to ignore what the media outlets have forced as the standard of beauty for the last 80 years,  and have caused an epidemic of children dying due to trying to fit in with those standards,, be my guest.

You find it sad that I referred to myself as a bear in the winter,, when the reference was to the fact that I am less active in the winter,, and stay in more..  my eating habits dont change except around the holidaze
But since you had to point that out and it saddened you ,, let me hand you a tissue,, to wipe away those tears.. I get a clean bill of health at every checkup, my blood pressure is awesome, my blood is clean, my cholesterol levels are below the norm,, a yo-yo ,, 20-22 to a 14-16,, thats not a yo yo reallyits a matter of 6 inches and thats not alot,, and im happy being less active in the winter and more active in the summer.. and it doesnt have any profound effects on my health,, so please dry your eyes and dont worry about me..

now in regards to the way people think,, I used the renaissance as a reference point,, and again
life expectancy was shorter due to poor living conditions and disease from pnuemonia, the plague, dissentary, pox, viruses,, not due lack of exercise or an over abundance of eating..
And artists back then were our form of advertizers now ,,
You think because we know the world is round now,, that we are healthier ? LMAO
We can go back further if you like to The Roman empire, and make references to again voluptuous. plump, curvy, chubby women being the norm,, and their life expectancies were greater than ours..
Do we go back further to biblical times when life expectancies were double ?
We could go back to hunter/gatherer,, but I wouldnt want you to hurt your head thinking too much

But then again that sudden shift in life expectancies might have something to do with those additional two months being put on the calendar so a year was 12 months versus 10..

And thanks for that European way of life lesson,, but no I was actually making a point to reference Italians because their eating habits and the food they put into their system have been a source of documentation and research on health because of the food they eat is exorbitantly fatty and yet they maintain to be some of the healthiest people in the world....
It has nothing to do with over eating fatty foods,, it has to do with regulating your blood sugar,, and italians eat the fatty stuff alll day long and live on wine and olive oil which happen to be good at keeping the blood clean..  and maintain healthy lifestyles and some of the longest life expectancies in the world..

you see here we have a habit of extremes,, either over eating/binging or starving..
Excess of anything , Extreme of anything is unhealthy..