Since we now have a detailed study of the attitudes of Hobbyists to Providers, it would be interesting to hear what the Providers really think about the Hobbyists? It would be interesting.

They love us, because we provide an excellent source of income and occasionally a good time.

There are guys they like and appreciate as customers because they arrive on time, are polite and respectful and the right amount is in the envelope.  Then, there are guys they don't like but see anyway because they still pay even if they run late sometimes and hint-around about discounts or BBFS.  Last but not least there are the guys that they DNS because they NCNS, short the envelope or try to force them to do something that they don't want to do.

laid it out in plain English.

But still...we always find a guy who honestly thinks that the gals really are into him...because he's special

And if those who really paid attention to posts over the years, the hooker game has changed in how they want it to be perceived.  And the GFE portion has inadvertently forced this topic to be addressed over and over.  When you add the DFK and cuddling portion of this...too many poor johns really think that she is into it.  And the gals are sometimes too good at the illusion...which leads to the next favorite topic....

I think I've fallen

Sorry ladies...stop being so fucking good at making the fantasy so real  LOL

They screw you and give you money.

Sometimes they are bearable, and sometimes you would like to vaporize them.

I have to guess it's not so much different in the sex biz.

I have banged close to 100 women in the hobby.. (I know some of you MoFo are laughing, because that's what you bang in a year or less.), but have had only two women tell me that they really enjoyed my company...

There is something about 'sincerity' that always stands out. You know it when you see it. I can't put it in words.. I know women in this business are very good actresses, and compliments are aplenty. While I can't be a 100% certain, but those compliments felt like they were sincere.

Either way, its a business transaction to them, just like it is for us. If they see you again, I guess you were OK.

kinda like asking a male porn star about his job..he gets all that fine pussy and gets paid for it too..not all the guys our providers meet are perfect..they will always have there fair share of jerkwads and fucktards..it is simply the nature of the beast..all in all..most love what they do..they make decent money and get a stiff dick and a good fucking any time they want it..you cant ask for more than that..

... than you, fat, and/or ugly, what would you think? You would be happy to get the money, and even happier when she left.

Really ... who cares??? Did someone really have to ask this again??? What provider is going to answer this truthfully without using an alias? That would be GREAT for business!!!

girls like Saturn and London bring a nice whip, and beat the crap out of Johns after each session... Now that would be a nice  R-GFE session.... Real GFE Session..

****Laughing like a manic*****

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I am now of the school that if a guy wants to believe what he wants to believe. let him.  As long as he is clean, leaves the correct fee and leaves us alone after...no problem at all....



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A small minority of my clients were so phenominal, I'd go home after a session and fantasize about them for days and months after.  An equally small minority made me want to run to the shower and scrub my body with hot water and bleach after they left.

About 90% fell somewhere in between.  Decent, respectable, respectful, kind, bearable, etc.  Most hobbyists are NOT fat and nasty.  Most are perfectly fine, normal, professional, successful men.  

And I was going to use my real handle but used an alias so you know Im not just trying to kiss ass

A SMALL minority you were attracted to, the rest were nothing but a business transaction.

I did not say ALL hobbyists are fat and nasty. In fact, I'm not even including "nasty" in my point. I find it hard to comprehend that a grown man would show up smelly and dirty for a meeting (not saying it doesn't happen but its not even relevant to me).

Lots of hobbyists are fat, lots are butt ass ugly, and even more are just plain old. I've been to many M&G and seen for myself. You personally might not mind an ugly ass man or a man 20 - 30 years older than you flopping around on top of you. Lots of women do ... I tend to see ladies 25 - 40, runway model types and have heard many horror stories and what they really think of certain clients.

You can try selling the "clean, respectable, kind" kool-aid to the guys who believe they're special and you're honestly attracted to them because they shower and say "please" and "thank you". I know better and enjoy my time for what it really is.

The use of the alias doesn't help at all.

So, I suppose hobbyists represent the rest of the population by default.  

Listen, we show up to do our job.  We don't require our clients to be hot pieces of ass b/c if we did, we'd go broke.  If all we want is a hot piece of ass, we can date him in civie life.

But theres no need to bash these men.  Mostly, they are appreciative, kind, and treat us right.  They allow us the ability to retire and move on to other things in a great financial position.  Im grateful for my clients even if they were floppy or had loose, hanging skin or hair growing out of their ears or saggy balls, etc etc etc.

Hi Curly,

Correct!! My current ATF has that "sincerity" quality!!  Yes, I know it all has to do w/ the donation, but If you are respectful, kind to the woman, you will most likely receive the same in return from an open minded person!!  That is why I will continue to see the woman until she retires!! Which, for my selfish reasons, i hope doesn't happen anytime soon!

He is being completely honest, devoid of that sugar coating so many on here need. Many ladies adore their clients but are not necessarily attracted or turned on by them. They do their job whatever that means to each and every one of them.

We are grateful for their patronage and also overlook things that in our personal lives might matter in choosing a sexual partner. That's part of the job, that's why we get the hourly fee we charge. We are there for these guys where many other women are not...allowing them access to our bodies where many will not.
We don't criticize their sexual technique, where other women in their lives might.  

HookerCops is not under the illusions many are. I like his honesty and his outlook.

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GET IT ?


What I find interesting are the hobbyists who think they are more special than the rest of the guys she sees...." she HAS to like ME more than THAT guy"  and if/that she actually thinks no different of him than any other.

Let's just say that if there was no money involved in the encounter, very few of us gents would even have a chance.

Right.

I think we are all in agreement here.  The end of my post was tongue in cheek.  Our clients are not all fat & sweaty, or 70 year old geezers.  And we providers are not all lazy idiots who blow our money on crack or handbags.  I hate bad generalizations!  I LOVE good clients!

Definitely this. But I don't kiss ass unless i'm paid to lol.

Posted By: Florida_Evans

A small minority of my clients were so phenominal, I'd go home after a session and fantasize about them for days and months after.  An equally small minority made me want to run to the shower and scrub my body with hot water and bleach after they left.

About 90% fell somewhere in between.  Decent, respectable, respectful, kind, bearable, etc.  Most hobbyists are NOT fat and nasty.  Most are perfectly fine, normal, professional, successful men.  

And I was going to use my real handle but used an alias so you know Im not just trying to kiss ass

that even when a gal is using an alias...hoping some don't know who she is (*wink*)...she still feels that she needs to be PC with an answer.  Of course HC wasn't bashing anyone...any more than I am bashing anyone.

But at the same time you still have a large amount of johns here who really don't want to know the reality of this game. Some will say...even scream they get it.  But they don't...and still secretly will suggest to themselves that fucking CPA (and anyone else who will burst their bubble) is full of it...he doesn't understand that their favorite is really into him...because he is so special.

That's who Florida is appealing to...she's been around way too long to not know just how fragile the egos are here.

But over the years I've had some great chit chats with gals and guys.  Honestly it is tough to hear from a gal(s) what they really think of this whole relationship...but those who have told me the "truth" had no reasons to feel they needed to stroke my ego.  And they didn't  LOL

But for those that understand what this is really all about can enjoy the game.  And when those that "bash" the johns for falling too hard...it's for their own edification.  And even then, those fellas will still believe that he really is special, although to some other hooker  LOL

... I'm one of "them". I'm just realistic. I'm still relatively young and in good shape, but when I meet with a 25 - 30 year old with a model's face and body, I'm under no illusion that she's physically attracted to me. Sure, it would be nice if she was, but I'm realistically hoping that she's relieved at most. As long as she pretends to be happy, I'm happy. I don't delude myself into thinking this is anything more than what it is.

I know there is no magic DATY technique someone taught me when I was young. There is no special doggy style technique that makes all the ladies orgasm. EVERY woman is unique and what one likes another despises.

I enjoy the fantasy for a couple of hours and go on my merry way. Sometimes I make a friend. However, I know it's just as likely she's glad I'm leaving as she'll be dreaming of me later.

Thank god. All the fake cuming, moaning, etc. Is now clarified. I'm now done wasting my money!!

100% Correct. No money, no pussy!

to know that aliases are worthless and theres a way to find out who's behind the curtain, as GAGambler used to say.  So, I dont really mind (or care) that you or others know who I am.  That being said, even after my long career and a billion customers served, something that always drove me crazy was jaded guys.

Its one thing to be realistic, but I came across so many guys who didnt believe a word I said because I was an escort.  Or if I genuinely complimented them, they'd say, "Oh you say that to every guy."  Not cool.  Not cool at all. !

That can and is fun

Don't worry...LR doesn't do the fake anything....she is as real as they come  LOL

And then again, she told me I'm bigger than any of her prior hubbies...or am I getting confused with another poster?

Whatever...the good ones don't do the fake moaning shit.  And those that I have had do that...I just bust out laughing.  And have NO problems sharing with the gal the absurdity of the scene.  And then she busts out laughing...and then the session is a blast.

Shit....this is supposed to be fun.  Too many assholes here think its fucking match or eharmony!!

Yea....I'm sure that shit happens a lot  

My doctor told me to stop with the sleep aids to avoid "night terrors".  

Seems to do the trick (no pun intended)!

... maybe my wording was confusing. I meant it's more likely that she is happy I'm leaving, THAN she'll be having sexual dreams about me later.

Well...then this was a PSA in case any gals were having those dreams

But you know as well as I what this gig is all about.  And why most of the gals will babble publicly how they adore us and such.

Nothing wrong with that...and most of the guys really do get it....eventually!

Now a cure for snoring....haven't figured that one out yet  

You never see this question on the monger boards like USA sex guide.  Hell, back in the 80's when I was picking up street walkers kissing was a no no and the girls all used condoms as thick as rain boots for CBJ.  No one was shy about asking for and counting the money right up front and the words "second pop" didn't exist in any hookers vocabulary.  In fact, the most common term of endearment back then was "are you done yet?"

and no KFC either!

8o)

Guys get jaded much in the same way the gals do.

Faux compliments as a guy is being rushed out the door doesn't exactly epitomize sincerity.  And too often, that is how that deal goes down.

Don't fret...as long as this game continues to be played (and it has been since the beginning of humanity) there'll always be newbies who don't know...and will honestly covet those compliments.

For me...if a gal want's to compliment me, I nod my head appreciatively and stick my dick back in her mouth.  Assuming she was sincere, she'll suck away  LOL

What you're interpreting as being jaded are just folks who understand the dynamics of the game.  We enjoy the game, or we wouldn't play.  It's just that simple  

Thank you Jesus, Thank You Lord, I am giving up pussy, pot, liquor and gambling. yea god yea god yeah!!!!!!!!!

If you delusional is.....I'm out of money.... you still want to hook up????

Of course, there will be providers that will speak for all of them, as insane as that may be.  

What a provider really thinks about you should be fairly obvious if you see her on a regular basis - keep in mind its a business which she is in total control as to who is allowed to see her. At  the very least, repeaters meet her basic requirements (beyond the payment). Anything else would be based primarily on an individual's persona - not so much a generalization assistment of all hobbyists (IMO).

Clean, Safe, & Generous

Hands

Blow. Fuck. Exit.

I do think it's safe to say that it's all about the benjamins, though.

Maybe you get the big discount, but a totally free session?  Very, very rare.

And I will add that on occasion, a lady might throw in a free one to keep that guy coming back. It's good marketing, especially if she likes him (nice personality, easy client, things in common...list goes on).

I know, you did not like my delivery and I get that...however I think we can safely say there is a general thread about money being the great motivator in this biz.

Ah, I had no problem with your delivery at all.

But giving a freebie for more business is kinda like "option value," is it not?  You give away something for free that has value because the payoff could be a lot bigger than what you are giving up now.  Now, that could be in the form of, "I think this guy is loaded because he has a lot of wealth and therefore I'll give him a freebie so I can get him to see me more."  Or it could be, "He's a nice guy and has a great personality."  Or it could be, "God, this guy eats pussy so fucking well."  

Again, going back to that humongous thread, I'm not saying that providers who see a guy who has money immediately treat him differently than a guy who doesn't (I was just using that as ONE example of the "option value" theory), but that was my point.

For what it's worth, I think you're a smart gal and obviously you have a business platform that works for you.  And if you give away the occasional freebie, that's great.  I'm sure your clients appreciate that, as I would if I were one of your clients.

Nope, no misunderstading here...

and get into the back channel discussions/white list postings so you get the view from a hookers perspective with the marketing filter removed.

But it is safe to say that what they think will vary widely based on who they are.  Their tastes for men will range from hatred to amusement, with all the gradations between those polar opposites.  I think it would be very rare to find hookers that develop emotional attachments for their clients, where they actually care about them in life outside of the transaction.  It does happen, but I believe it is a statistical aberration.  But of course this is a supposition on my part, I am unaware of any scientifically rigorous analysis of the subject.

Just as men talk about providers in some of the most derogatory terms in the so-called private men's forums, I doubt you'd really want to think about what some providers really think about the clients.

most providers i have seen or read their posts  seem to have a lot of contempte for men in general.