These women were not civilians but fellow soldiers. Disgusting!

1. I see the unreviewed
2. Not all hobbyists are swayed bye the "TER only" shit
3. Women shouldn't be in the military except as care givers lol
4. Rapists should be castrated

We create monsters in our military.
We have been doing it since WW1.
The concept of taking away individuality is strong in boot camp.
What do you expect from brainless masses?

are making this some sort of a tit-for-tat thing...

They're rock solid citizens  LOL

but her reasoning and comparison is flawed.

Just like the thread above by preppies cousin....some hookers don't want to deal with U30 or U40 guys.

I was simply flabbergasted by it. Stunned silent. Angered to the very pit of my soul. A seething, raging anger that is so very rare and overwhelming for me that I want to shower after I feel it.

Maybe just maybe women don't belong in the military. This never happened until political correctness jammed women into roles they aren't necessarily suited for. What's next? Women on subs? In SOG's? Oh. Ok. NVM. OP worse than flawed.  

Posted By: SoftlySarah

I was simply flabbergasted by it. Stunned silent. Angered to the very pit of my soul. A seething, raging anger that is so very rare and overwhelming for me that I want to shower after I feel it.  
   
 Makes you realize how far we have yet to go as a society-- no-- as a species.  
   
 The other time I feel this way is when I read the comments on any article about the Slut Walks.  
   
 I get it. And you've gotta do what you've gotta do.  
   
 

Sorry. I meant PBS. Or was it another military hating network? That would I guess be pretty much any of them.  

Posted By: SoftlySarah

I was simply flabbergasted by it. Stunned silent. Angered to the very pit of my soul. A seething, raging anger that is so very rare and overwhelming for me that I want to shower after I feel it.  
   
 Makes you realize how far we have yet to go as a society-- no-- as a species.  
   
 The other time I feel this way is when I read the comments on any article about the Slut Walks.  
   
 I get it. And you've gotta do what you've gotta do.  
   
 

on raping their colleagues? We're not talking about our 'enemies' here. Or are we?  

Unfortunately this has happened in the three units that I've been with. The biggest and best thing to do is yell scream and kick before during and after it occurs so anyone and everyone can help. If a rape occurs call the police immediately. People in the military are human too and humans are idiots by nature. It's a horrible world out there and im sorry to say it will never get better. I would love to say that in the military things are like they are supposed to be. Legal and formal. It's not. In fact illegal activity is easier to cover up it seems. To the providers who see military guys screen them to the utmost of your ability as you would anyone else because as I stated before we are humans that have mental and physical flaws that aren't readily visible because everyone thinks we are all heroes and brave and honorable. It makes me sick. I'm sorry to take up thread space by venting but I just got very angry all of a sudden thinking about the topic.

The point is I knew I was going to get the broad brush thing but so do many of you guys paint with a broad brush with your choices of not seeing unreviewed ladies.  

I agree on the front line. then let them be the lawyers and surgeons etc and send the guys out to fight. Caregivers is so 1900's OSP, but then again aren't you older than Methuselah, just kidding love.

That paint all unreviewed ladies as rip offs and B&S.

and grief at what these women and some men had to endure and the fact that this "great" country allows it and had the gaul to say that rape was an occupational hazard.

And what roles are women in the military not suited for? A surgeon, a jag lawyer, in IT, in computers, in the medical field, in communications??????

"Gaul?" What's Europe got to do with this? Seriously if you researched what constitutes 'rape' for politically motivated tv you might be surprised. Get off your lazy ass and do some deeper digging than believing everything you're spoon fed by a biased agenda driven media.  

And a high ranking official saw the movie and was horrified and removed the commanding officers from being able to sweep that shit under the carpet. And the reasons they did were to save their own careers and nothing else. Watch the film, or might it be too close to home for you

Now you're showing your ignorance. I'd say service in a confined space for 6 months at a m-f ratio of say 10-1 invited trouble. And how about SOG? Surely women fit in well there right? You didn't serve? I'm shocked. But at least as usual you have all the answers. I've never slammed you on your repeated idiot posts but this one takes the cake. At least as usual you revert to personal insults not answering a serious question. So typical of man haters. At least I know where Gaul is. Genius.  

Special Ops Groups. Rangers. Delta Force. Green Berets etc.  NVM is an acronym for 'never mind.

I know what rape is you idiot. Do  you think holding a woman down who is pleading for you to stop and possibly backhanding her and shoving your dick in her ass lovemaking?

his is only one out of hundreds of easily accessible links on the subject.  

Who said it was bullshit? You show your true colors with your insults as you can't engage. There's rape EVERYWHERE. If you take out the BS 'rape' stats that would in my world constitute workplace harassment the rate of rape in the military is approximate to the 'real world.' But you have all the answers since you never served, won't see those who do and don't realize Gaul is a place. Keep it up. You're solidifying your role here on this board. Beyond any doubt.  

And I as a woman spoke out of turn. Deal with it you baby. What you think that women who wear, I don't know, anything but a burka are asking for it and we are the downfall of all mankind because idiots like you can't control your self?  

A movie haha was it on A/E or Oprah's network. Go back to waiting for your phone to ring which of course it never does. Oh the GAUL of it!

"A high ranking official?" Anonymously I bet. Just like you. I bet he knows where Gaul was.  

"Great country?" Oh good at least now you're bashing America. Figures. I guess it was Gaul who saved Europe from Hitler and Asia from Tojo right. You DO know who hitler was right? You can google Tojo.  

Of course I have no clue. I served and don't hate the opposite sex. I bet your phone rings incessantly as well. Not.

'Policymic?' Great source thanks. What's next? Daily kos? I'm done with you man haters. Think I'll head to Gall for vacay. I bet you served though? No? I'm shocked.

Here and there was okay, right? And you don't hate the opposite sex as long as they are where you think they should be? Hmm maybe the rape was to send these silly women a message, stay out of the testosterone pit or look what you get.

We don't agree with you and now we are man haters. Maybe you are on to something, I do hate men who rape, so I guess I hate you. So you served, big freaking deal, I have more respect for the guy who picks up my garbage than you. He is more of a man than you could ever dream of being.  

like a life preserver. That's all you have so far. I am trading insult with insult, what you can't keep up? But you served and are a man, gosh darn it!  

How about we keep this even handed and I'll throw in some fox new for you...lol....

For the last time, it was a movie and not on a TV channel. Go back to paying women to deal with you. Oh and how quaint she thinks she can hear my phone.

Not shoved under the rug by a commanding officer who is afraid of ruining his career because of a man who serve under his command is a rapist and that would reflect badly on him.

On April 14th 2012, Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta watched this film. Two days later, he took the decision to prosecute away from unit commanders. Clear enough for you?  Or should I carve it into a stone tablet for you?

Take a look at rape and sexual assault statistics from colleges and universities sometime.   Five minutes on Google and, using the same reasoning you have for not seeing military men, you should also exclude anyone who’s been to college.

Since it is becoming painfully clear that some men have no impulse control and are basically running of the limbic portion of their brains

Soooo I'm not really sure if there's a real discussion here anymore, or if you guys are just insulting each other, but I'd like to throw in my opinion anyway.
I served six years in the Navy and was never raped, nor did I know of anyone who was. At all three of my commands (California, Hawaii, Japan), we had constant and mandatory sexual harassment and sexual assault prevention training. I'm not saying that rape and assault never happen in the military, because obviously they do, but I would like to point out that, 1: not all rape or assault is carried out by men, and 2: as someone previously stated, the military's statistics for both rape and assault are very comparable to other organizations, such as any college.
The real problem does not stem from losing your identity or whatever garbage you think happens during bootcamp; the real problem is alcohol. This is a long-standing and serious problem that will never go away. There is an ongoing attempt to create a responsible drinking culture, but it's incredibly difficult to change the deeply ingrained social norms and general culture of military life. Deployments around the world will always hold the allure of hookers and booze, and, the assholes who abuse those two things notwithstanding, there's no reason they should be banned or looked down on.
Yes, sometimes a high ranking officer attempts to sweep something under the rug, but rest assured--word gets out eventually. There are a million different ways people who are assaulted and/or raped can report it, so it's not like they're powerless to tell someone or do something about it. I would jump at the chance to escort any military member, as they possess many qualities that civilian men do not (don't get mad civvies, the opposite is also true).
Before you decided that all military men are rapists, make sure you see/read/hear the whole story.