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Well, what are you gonna do? Give up your wife and kids for a hooker?

Come on man, we both know that ain't gonna happen. So you got a few choices, I'll lay them out for you, and then I'll tell you what I would do.

1. Continue to get your sexual needs met by this provider, and keep it strictly professional, and keep your "feelings" to yourself.

2. Continue to get your sexual needs met by this provider, and tell her how you feel about her.

3. Stop seeing her for a while, or forever.

It doesn't seem like you'll be able to do option 1, because you're already thinking about introducing a hooker to your parents as a partner despite having kids. Option 1 is for people that are still capable of thinking somewhat straight with regards to the situation.

I would go with option 2, because once you tell her how you feel she will give you a dose of reality you so very much need, and you can probably still keep having sex with her! (if your ego isn't too shattered) OR, you can get your dose of reality then she will do you the tough favor of dropping you as a client, and then you don't have to worry about the what-ifs.

Option 3 is not a good choice IMO because it sounds like if you stop seeing her for awhile, you'll think about her nonstop and you'll probably end up getting more attached to her anyways, and your wife might start to wonder WTF is up, and if you stop seeing her forever, you don't get to have sex with her!

For the record, she doesn't like you, she likes the money you give her. And even if she did like you, its not worth losing your family over for a fling with a party girl/escort. This is why I am glad I had the experience of dating a stripper early on in my life, I think that every man should have the experience of dating a stripper or other "pro" once (and ONLY once, any more will likely destroy you) to get a real honest look at how fucked up most of these women are, and how disposable they see men as. ((BTW I met her outside the club, and learned she was a stripper shortly after, I'm not dumb enough to think I could "pull" a stripper from the club and get in a real relationship with her (although it does happen, exception not the rule).)

If you were a single guy it would be different. You simply have too much to lose at this point. Sorry.

I think I am unusual here b/c I go through phases where I see escorts (it isn't a steady hobby for me and I always have verification issues as a result).  I've generally been a long-term relationship guy, my first escort was around the time I was breaking up with a girlfriend of many years in my mid-twenties.

Anyway, fast forward a decade and a half, and I'm generally a happily married guy who married a woman way 'out of my league', and with whom I have very cute children.  We used to have sex like rabbits when we were first dating & married, now we maybe have sex a few times a year.  Honestly, it doesn't bother me that much.  I guess sometimes I just prefer porn?

Once a year, or every two years, I get an itch and see a provider, like most folks here, I suspect it's hit or miss YMMV experiences.

Recently, I met a provider who has that breezy, carefree charisma, happy personality and obviously underneath there are layers of complexity... she's just my type and I can't stop thinking about her.  She would be 'wife material' for a younger me, just the type to introduce to the folks.

I've had 'attachments' to providers before, but this is different.

If anything I'm both excellent at reading people and yet also very naive - I'm not sure she treats me especially 'special' and I'm sure she's just figuring things out for herself given her age (young twenties).  But I also know if I continue seeing her I suspect it can go somewhere that will be emotionally treacherous.  She clearly likes me, though she's also probably interested in cultivating a stable of regulars.

Please knock some sense into me!  Anyone have advice/experience here, either as provider or client?

wrps07163 reads

Time for you to cut the cord, take a break, then see someone else.  I had to stop seeing one that I had a dream getting married and having 3 triplet daughters with.  I woke up and said oh no.

First of all, plan on hearing the advise that you don’t want to hear.  Possibly some light slapping around via written words here.

 If you plan on leaving your wife and kids for a “young” twenty something hooker then you better be prepared.  Nice little settlement going to your wife.  Child support and MAYBE seeing your kids a couple times a month because she would get custody, I’m guessing, could be wrong.  You OK with that?  Working your ass off because you have to pay alimony, child support and now you have to maintain a 20 something little philly who’s going out to nightclubs until wee hours, remember all her friends are 20 something and she’s fucking the young studs afterwards before coming home to her “White Knight”.  She’s used to making her OWN money and spending it the way she wants.  Are you OK with that?  She probably has daddy issues.  You OK with that? Remember she’s being sweet to you because theres an envelope at the end of the day.  Or are you going to let her continue working? Are you OK with that?  Who’s going to pay for her car when things break down?  Let me take a wild guess... YOU are. You OK with that?  Do I sound salty? Probably as I tried going down that route once or twice playing the “White Knight” role.  I didn’t have nearly the amount of potential loss that you have.  But when you’re involved with someone like that then you better be prepared to enter the rabbit hole to hell.

Stay the fuck away, throw the number away if you are having feelings and move on.  Nothing good can come from it UNLESS you are prepared to take on the worst.

Run the fuck away!!!

But what do I know, I’m just a grossly tall lanky guy from Albuquerque New Mexico.
Just my .02
SP

One other suggestion. Talk to your wife about your desire to have sex with her more frequently. Visit some websites on how to respark sexuality in your marriage. Unless your wife is menopausal or has physical issues that make sex uncomfortable to her, focus on pleasuring her once a week. Get a hotel room and a babysitter for your kids.

 I was an immature lover, my wife had health issues and we lost the sexuality in our marriage. Focus on your wife and her sexual needs - your life will become hell if your ignore the advice given here.

Good luck.

Posted By: SnakePliskken
Re: Sounds dangerous.  Don’t go there.  
First of all, plan on hearing the advise that you don’t want to hear.  Possibly some light slapping around via written words here.  
   
  If you plan on leaving your wife and kids for a “young” twenty something hooker then you better be prepared.  Nice little settlement going to your wife.  Child support and MAYBE seeing your kids a couple times a month because she would get custody, I’m guessing, could be wrong.  You OK with that?  Working your ass off because you have to pay alimony, child support and now you have to maintain a 20 something little philly who’s going out to nightclubs until wee hours, remember all her friends are 20 something and she’s fucking the young studs afterwards before coming home to her “White Knight”.  She’s used to making her OWN money and spending it the way she wants.  Are you OK with that?  She probably has daddy issues.  You OK with that? Remember she’s being sweet to you because theres an envelope at the end of the day.  Or are you going to let her continue working? Are you OK with that?  Who’s going to pay for her car when things break down?  Let me take a wild guess... YOU are. You OK with that?  Do I sound salty? Probably as I tried going down that route once or twice playing the “White Knight” role.  I didn’t have nearly the amount of potential loss that you have.  But when you’re involved with someone like that then you better be prepared to enter the rabbit hole to hell.  
   
 Stay the fuck away, throw the number away if you are having feelings and move on.  Nothing good can come from it UNLESS you are prepared to take on the worst.  
   
 Run the fuck away!!!  
   
 But what do I know, I’m just a grossly tall lanky guy from Albuquerque New Mexico.  
 Just my .02  
 SP
You told it like it is.

WICardinalfan162 reads

Very spot on narrative.  One thing to remember, above all, the lawyers are the ones who make out in the short run, and you get stuck with the financial support of your spouse and kids in the long run.

Been there, done that.   My attorney bill set me back well over $35K, and I live in a VERY affordable area in the Midwest.

I had a friend considering divorce, he had been married 25 years.  I should him my spreadsheet on costs and a file 4 inches thick of legal documents.  Scared the shit out of him.  

Suck it up and take our advice.  

Are providers NOT regular women who just have a really odd job?
Can we as providers not be normal everyday gals who, like every other woman, CAN be a regular GF to someone even if it happens to be with a guy we met IN this hobby?

Why does everyone have this mind set that we are not GF/Marriage potential people?  

joedp115 reads

Posted By: TheQueenSophie
Re: Sounds dangerous.  Don’t go there.  
Are providers NOT regular women who just have a really odd job?  
 Can we as providers not be normal everyday gals who, like every other woman, CAN be a regular GF to someone even if it happens to be with a guy we met IN this hobby?  
   
 Why does everyone have this mind set that we are not GF/Marriage potential people?  
From my experience, I can't say SPs are regular women with a really odd job. Regular women just can't do a really odd job in question. That's almost by definition. It's like being a professional hitman.  Would you call a hitman a regular joe? Would you marry a hitman? He could fail his assignment and be killed at any time. Having killed someone really changes that person.

Yes, I've heard stories of clients and SPs become GFs and BFs and even getting married. However those instances are rare. They are the exception that proves the rule.

I took a SP off the market for 5 years. I thought we would get married. But, she always push the issue one year to the next. Lo and behold, I found out she has a BF. Now, I am wondering if there are more BFs on the side I don't know about.

Forget the sex worker part. Leaving your wife for a younger model is likely to lead to regret. And I don't mean because the leaving the wife part. You're just exchanging one headache for the next.

joedp122 reads

In terms of leaving a younger model for an older model, sometimes it works out and sometimes it doesn't. It's like playing Russian Roulette.

In my situation, I am not married and the SP in question is not young LOL. She has a year or two left for child bearing years. I dodged a bullet having not married her or having children together. She's hiding her BF(s) from me. If there is one, there must be another. I stuck around for 5 years because I believe "the exception proves the rule" rule. How many exceptions are really there?

Even civvie women with high sexual market value (SMV) have multiple BFs...one for material needs, the other for emotional needs, another for sexual needs, and another for being a gofer, another for fixing things around the house.

joedp114 reads

It should read "In terms of leaving an older model for a younger model," LOL. The other way around doesn't make alot of sense.

GaGambler199 reads

I will admit I do have a hard time relating to your situation. Honestly I can't imagine having sex only "a few times a year" especially if you indeed did marry "out of your league", But then again I don't like porn either so I have to conclude we are just very different people where it comes to our sexual appetites.

 
Personally I doubt seriously that you have any genuine feelings towards this girl (I could be wrong of course) I think you really are having a mid-life crisis and you are looking to recapture those feelings you used to have for your wife along with the physical manifestations that go along with being "young and in love" lol  

 
Here is a piece of useful advice, if you think she really likes you, try asking her out on a "real" date with no money involved, her answer will make it clear if she has actual feelings towards you or not, and might give you the wake up call you need. Of course she "might" say yes which would create a whole new set of issues for you. BUT it might make you ask and answer a very important question you need to ask yourself, Are you REALLY prepared to spend the rest of your life having sex no more than a few times a year??? I was in my early 30's when I had the epiphany that my wife expected us to be together FOREVER and not only did it scare the fuck out of me, it motivated me to get the fuck out of my marriage at any cost necessary and it was the best decision of my life.

I'm almost 60, never married, no kids and I have a consistently high rate of failure in 'traditional' relationships. So I'm not the guy to advise you on your marriage or kids. Except to ask you to consider this: If the marriage is no longer working for you, why are you still married?

 
But the issue that hasn't been addressed yet is whether your 20-ish provider actually desires a relationship with you beyond the provider-client status you have now. Try to take an objective look at her actions and behaviors with you:  
1. Has she suggested spending time together outside the paid sessions?  
2. Has she asked you about your current relationship with your wife, or indicated she's single and looking?
3. Has she ever said anything outside the context of being your fantasy fuck doll that indicates she has any interest in you beyond your wallet?  

 
If you can't answer "yes" to any of these questions, then take a cold shower and get over her, because it's not going to happen. Ever.  

 
If you really feel that you want more than an occasional hour-long bang session, and you either don't want to or can't  leave your wife, consider finding a Sugar Baby. Take a look at the Erotic Highway board for context and advice on the Sugar Bowl if you want to learn about it.  

 
Life is good

 
The Cat

At the moment, she’s your ideal sex partner. Don’t overthink the feelings that come with that.

At the same time, figure out what the hell is going on with your marriage.  Don’t blame the provider for causing you to question the marriage. Those issues exist whether or not the younger woman is a part of your life or not.

If you keep seeing just one person, you will either become attached to them or begin to hate them.
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The solution in either case is always the same ... spin more plates.  

Well, what are you gonna do? Give up your wife and kids for a hooker?

Come on man, we both know that ain't gonna happen. So you got a few choices, I'll lay them out for you, and then I'll tell you what I would do.

1. Continue to get your sexual needs met by this provider, and keep it strictly professional, and keep your "feelings" to yourself.

2. Continue to get your sexual needs met by this provider, and tell her how you feel about her.

3. Stop seeing her for a while, or forever.

It doesn't seem like you'll be able to do option 1, because you're already thinking about introducing a hooker to your parents as a partner despite having kids. Option 1 is for people that are still capable of thinking somewhat straight with regards to the situation.

I would go with option 2, because once you tell her how you feel she will give you a dose of reality you so very much need, and you can probably still keep having sex with her! (if your ego isn't too shattered) OR, you can get your dose of reality then she will do you the tough favor of dropping you as a client, and then you don't have to worry about the what-ifs.

Option 3 is not a good choice IMO because it sounds like if you stop seeing her for awhile, you'll think about her nonstop and you'll probably end up getting more attached to her anyways, and your wife might start to wonder WTF is up, and if you stop seeing her forever, you don't get to have sex with her!

For the record, she doesn't like you, she likes the money you give her. And even if she did like you, its not worth losing your family over for a fling with a party girl/escort. This is why I am glad I had the experience of dating a stripper early on in my life, I think that every man should have the experience of dating a stripper or other "pro" once (and ONLY once, any more will likely destroy you) to get a real honest look at how fucked up most of these women are, and how disposable they see men as. ((BTW I met her outside the club, and learned she was a stripper shortly after, I'm not dumb enough to think I could "pull" a stripper from the club and get in a real relationship with her (although it does happen, exception not the rule).)

If you were a single guy it would be different. You simply have too much to lose at this point. Sorry.

All good advice here Dude. Probably the most over discussed subject in hobby forum history. My very first provider sat at my kitchen table and being a stone newbie she gave me a tutorial with plenty of do`s and don`ts to guide me in my journey. She wagged her finger at me and said "The biggest mistake that guys make in the hobby is falling in love with a provider, don`t do it, it`s a one way ticket to hell!!" And I never forgot her words and neither should you.

Posted By: 20strojl
Re: Well,
 My very first provider sat at my kitchen table and being a stone newbie she gave me a tutorial with plenty of do`s and don`ts to guide me in my journey. She wagged her finger at me and said "The biggest mistake that guys make in the hobby is falling in love with a provider, don`t do it, it`s a one way ticket to hell!!" And I never forgot her words and neither should you.
I wonder if it ever happens the other way around, if providers ever fall for (or think they're falling for) hobbyists. Perhaps some old salt pulls her to the side and gives the good advice to stay away.

Posted By: DeClemente
Re: Well,
Posted By: 20strojl
Re: Well,  
  My very first provider sat at my kitchen table and being a stone newbie she gave me a tutorial with plenty of do`s and don`ts to guide me in my journey. She wagged her finger at me and said "The biggest mistake that guys make in the hobby is falling in love with a provider, don`t do it, it`s a one way ticket to hell!!" And I never forgot her words and neither should you.

I wonder if it ever happens the other way around, if providers ever fall for (or think they're falling for) hobbyists. Perhaps some old salt pulls her to the side and gives the good advice to stay away.

 

To answer DeC's post I told my ATF about the stern warning I got about falling for a provider and she responded with "Don't think it doesn`t happen the other way around cause it does." Said it happened to her twice. The first guy was a client near her age  and when he entered her room she said he was EVERYTHING she was attracted to in a man and then some. Said she almost came in her pants when he first kissed her and she swooned badly. This scared her to death and she knew if she kept seeing him she would be in big trouble so she stopped.

Another time she had a repeating older client who fit the bill perfectly but a bit more tempered so she decided to pursue a relationship  and came clean with him and asked for one. He declined and said he was happily married so of course that ended that.
She was very vulnerable at this time of her life as she had recently lost her soul mate fiancé to a drop dead heart attack and was devastated and now looking for something more?

After 2 strikes and losing her guy, she quit looking for love in the hobby. I`ve been seeing her for almost 5 yrs now and I get plenty of special perks so I don`t rock the boat and look for more. She`s half my age and it`s getting late in the afternoon of my life but if I was nearer her age I'd be all over her like a homeless guy on a six pack and a ham sandwich. I could easily fall deeply in love with her but I keep a tight rein on my heart as I absolutely don`t want the trip to hell at this stage of the game. I take what she gives and don`t ask for more as I'd be afraid of the answer?

And yes, providers do fall for clients although not as often as we fall for them. Stop and think about, what's a better way to find Mr. Right than the hobby? She gets to screen the the guys and filter out the creeps, she gets to have sex and see if they've got chemistry, gets to see if their personalities click, maybe he has financial stability? etc. etc. Why not? Sure beats internet dating or chance meetings at restaurants.

Strange game this hobby. It takes a special kinda girl to do this stuff and when you click with a special one you scratch your head and say "Why can`t they all be like this?"  Lol.

best way to get over a girl .... is to get over another  :)    theres lots of super hot pussy out there.   check out a 10/10  $800 girl and you will realize there's better out there  :)  

You're in lust, not in love.  You haven't stated how the provider feels about you, and that makes me wonder If it's just a one-sided infatuation.  

The answers you've received about taking her on dates where client/provider are not the key are excellent advice. Expanding on that, imagine what one week of washing your dirty underwear and hearing you snore for five hours a night will do for how this little girl feels about you. On your end, imagine how you used to feel about your wife at the maximum of your attraction to her, and compare it with how you feel about her at the lowest levels of attraction you've ever had for her. The same way your feelings have changed about your wife, they will some day change about this little girl. Throw it all away for her, and you'll grow to regret it and to regret her.

Being in her 20's, she's more likely to grow bored with you long before you grow bored with her.  

If you expect her to be faithful or exclusive, I doubt it's in the cards. If you think you'll be faithful to her, you've already proven that you can step outside of marriage for some strange pussy when you get tired of the home variety. Jealousy may crop up one day from you or from little girl. If all that drama intrigues you, move toward it.

She's lived the provider life and may miss its positive sides. If you're prepared to make her life just as good or better than its been, you might be able to impress her, but if not, she may become disillusioned very easily.

Do you think your children will have any interaction with little girl? Will you wife go for that? Will your children go for that? Will little girl go for that?

Although it may seem a little brutal, Snake has done you a favor by laying out precisely how this will most likely play out.  For married guys, considering a provider of any age to be more than a one-night stand can only lead to trouble.  If you're single, have some money you can afford to burn, and you will not cause collateral damage to other people that you care about, then go for it.  It might be a wild, albeit an expensive, ride you will never forget.  As a married guy, considering all the factors you laid out, if you do this, its like walking up to the roulette table, putting ALL of your chips on "0" and getting ONE spin of the wheel at 35-1 odds. If you wouldn't do that, then don't do this.  

 
There are other ways to salve your feelings of getting old.  If you have the money, buy a Corvette.  If that's too much, buy a Harley.  Have you ever noticed how many 50-something guys have Corvettes and Harleys?  Its because they chose to play it safe and not risk losing their families for pussy.  Stay in P4P, and see lots of different women, its a good compromise.

Really? It would have been easier for me to fall for somebody when young. Now I don't feel anything for anybody.

midlife crisis was not as intense as some of the other guys here.  Lol

This is obviously a girl's bike, so it couldn't be the one that Tini has.   The wheels are pink and there is no actual seat, just a rod that slides into her pussy.  

-- Modified on 1/25/2021 3:59:18 PM

The original, undecorated bike was ridden by Lance Armstrong in the Le Tour de France. The top tube is horizontal (men's bike), not at an angle (woman's bike). A REAL man doesn't worry about the pink butterfly wing decorations on his $500,000 bike.

Posted By: coeur-de-lion
Re: Imp, you're missing something . . .  
This is obviously a girl's bike, so it couldn't be the one that Tini has.   The wheels are pink and there is no actual seat, just a rod that slides into her pussy.  

GaGambler151 reads

I bet you they'd be fighting over a bike like that in places like SF, W Hollywood and Key West to name a few. lol

 
If you have decided to "switch teams" no worries, we are a very understanding crowd here. Yeah, sure we are. lol

the Queer de France, I bet he has a lifetime of hemorrhoids.  Real men ride a bike that has an actual seat, not just a pole to sit on.  I'm surprised you don't know that already.  But hey, if its comfortable for you, go ahead and ride it.  Its a pass for me, no matter how much it cost.  Lol

you'll see there's probably a seat there but it was cropped out, just like the tops of the handle bars. So you'll have to get your hemorrhoids somewhere else.

is like some I've seen, it would be testicular or prostate cancer.  Hemorrhoids don't look so bad after all?   Lol

about testicular cancer. Bike riding is my preferred form of exercise and I've done thousands of miles on bikes. Yet my prostate is fine and so is my PSA. Last time it was only 1.6.

Only a few people will get that joke, and that’s ok. It’s only meant for them. I’m not going to explain it. 🤣

GaGambler139 reads

but half of them are already on this thread at least. lol

She doesn't even like you enough to date you.  

From experience you are better off just cutting it.  Best case scenario you will be dissappointed worst case she may try taking advantage of that & your feelings.

Many fish in the sea. With what you were going to shell out seeing her, I recommend seeing atleast 2 other providers ASAP as your remedy.  

Also for future reference, keep a constant rotation. Don't visit a single lady more than every couple months to aviod any type of that sort of attachment..  

Help this helps!

....and realize she has the same relationship with you as she does with others.  It is totally deflating but helpful for perspective.  

Realize that you don’t know her  

And enjoy your time with her but don’t get emotionally involved

Posted By: ttcttc2
Re: Read her reviews...
....and realize she has the same relationship with you as she does with others.  It is totally deflating but helpful for perspective.    
   
 Realize that you don’t know her  
   
 And enjoy your time with her but don’t get emotionally involved
Good point! Every time another client shoots his load all over her tonsils or brags about how much he pounded her pussy into oblivion and she smikingky took his envelope full of cash and marked her calendar for his next visit, the original poster should keep those images in mind when he thinks of how much he loves her. Better yet, he should add a MFM BBFS double-penetration by two clients he doesn't know to the newsreel, and see if that solidifies the bond.

Early in my hobby career I fell hard for a girl 15 years younger than me.  I was mid 40s, she was around 30 with long slender legs...I will never forget.  My daughters were in elementary school at the time and I thought about just walking away to be with this escort I had just met.  She was perfect for me.  I was upset that I had gotten married before finding her...why did I get married?...I should have waited.  

This agency girl was so friendly, she even gave me her personal phone number.  Long story short...I call her personal number and she yells into the phone "do not call me at this number".

I nearly had a stroke, waited a few months, and started seeing her again as if nothing every happened.  It was just "love by the hour" from that point on.

I know where you're coming from, I've met a few providers that I desired, and I could not get them off my mind, saw them whenever I could, and the mind wanders and the fantasies proliferate.   But the women come and go.   To make a break from your life as it is for a provider, you've got a hard choice to make.   I know there is a hard pull from this voice in your head that saying to you, "this is the only life I will ever have, carpe diem, just do it, you only live once."        

But what did Pauli  (and Jimmy) say to Henry in Goodfellas?     "Smarten up....and go back to Karen."

Look at Tiger's predicament, he could have anything he wanted, and he did for awhile, and I think after his spree, it left him with a lot of regret.    I'm not saying don't have your fun, just keep a lid on it.   Discretion.     Even with his unlimited means, caused a lot of pain.

You're caught between two worlds.

Think about what Bob Seger said:

He wants his home and security
He wants to live like a sailor at sea
Beautiful loser, where you gonna fall?
You realize you just can't have it all.

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His reply should be attached automatically every time this subject comes up. Do whatever you have to do to try and rekindle things with your wife. ALWAYS remember these providers are award winning actresses!! You'll wind up being eventually taken to the cleaners by the provider AND your wife if you let yourself get carried away!! Honestly it could ruin you--you're too young to be destroyed over something that you have a chance to rectify.

-- Modified on 1/30/2021 10:00:09 AM

My friend# these ladies are in the " Business" of sucking you in!!! Please don't think for one second they like/ love you# Just pay for your mental/physical releases the provider gives you. Don't ruin your life/ marriage/ kids over sexual " healing" . You're better sitting in a bar everyday over a couple beers and venting our frustrations. Its cheaper too $$$.

You are not unique. Sometimes people experience an intangible, inexplicable, chemistry. It transcends looks, social strata, and common sense.  It’s not manufactured or anticipated. It’s just there and extremely powerful.  It controls your mind and emotions. It makes you take ridiculous chances that can ruin your life. You may have a great marriage, family, career, and stable finances yet seriously contemplate throwing it all away. You imagine idyllic scenarios with that person. It continually captivates your thoughts. It’s analogous to what a cocaine or Chrystal meth addiction must be like.  

But...this chemistry has not been tested in the fire of real life issues that strain even the best relationships. You’re not yet responsible for solving this person’s problems or meeting their needs. You’ve experienced only the good and little, if any, of the bad. You feel like you know them intimately but you do not really know them at all.  It’s like the Bachelor/Bachelorette programs where ABC creates perfect scenarios designed to make the contestants think they have fallen in love. They profess their love, devotion, and marriage intent only to have the relationship fail within a year of the show’s end.  
 
BE CAREFUL.  

Well said, articulate and spot on. Pay close attention to this poster who I think has been there, done that.

John_Laroche171 reads

What he said. Especially the "BE CAREFUL."
Note that doesn't mean run away, avoid, cut it off, etc...
Just be careful. Don't take your home life for granted. Don't assume she feels the same about you and even if she does, that it would stand the test of time.  
Enjoy the experience. Invite her to OTC lunch/dinner after a session some day. Give her the opportunity to open up about her real life. Earn her trust and build trust in her. Maybe you're her favorite client and if wasn't for age, or whatever....That may be all there is and ever will be, but that's not so bad IME.

 
Now make a note to yourself to report back to this thread in one year!

All of us slobs have met providers who gave us a sense of the butterflies with their charm even outside of the wrestling activities, just in their conversation etc. I’ve had few gals I would consider to have been actual buddies we talked or emailed with no date planned etc. had dinner OTC after most dates. , there was one gal I felt we had such great chemistry with that I told her if I’d have met you 20 years ago, we’d probally be happily divorced lol. But here’s the reality part,  call her and ask if she wants to go out pro Bono, set back and listen to the crickets as the silence on her end brings you back to reality.  Enjoy your time with her, replay her sweet voice in your head on long drives, but remember a good provider is a master illusionist, it’s what keeps us coming back. There’s another fella somewhere having the same thoughts about your provider friend.  Sounds like ya found a fun gal who is a good escape from reality for ya now and then, make sure ya enjoy it for what it is and don’t goof it up.

Just wanted to close the loop here.  Shortly after posting this, the provider I was seeing apparently got into some trouble herself for defrauding other clients (very long story, not worth getting into).  I felt very badly for her, the reality is she was very young and we all make mistakes.
I think this chapter for her is closed and I wish her well!  It was a nice adventure for me, I think I learned something too.

(I never reviewed her.  Occasionally, I have a really great connection with a provider, and I don't review those. Anyone else do that?)

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I heard a story where a SP and client got married...SP retired.

From my experience, most SPs have a boyfriend. Either he knows what she's doing or he doesn't.

I took a SP off the market for about 5 years. Stupid me, I thought we could have a life together. So, I supported her fully year after year.  

I knew alot about the SP in question but apparently not enough LOL.

I ignored my experience that she must have a bf. In the end I found out that she has a bf.

She did have feelings for me (and my money LOL) but she wanted to have her cake and eat it too.

For a reality check we all should watch the Hulu show The Girlfriend Experience.
I've been married for 35 years to a very toned sexy wife who plays with other guys.  She doesn't want me playing but knows I do.  I've fallen for an escort and the show and this thread have brought me mostly back to reality.  If she stays the night with me next weekend I'll know there's something there B/C it would be "on the house".  I'm not expecting her to stay but I'll offer it over dinner.
Just being with her thrills me so no matter what happens I'm following everyone's advice and just keeping her as a play thing as long as she'll let /accept me.

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Just curious, how old is the SP in question? Are the feelings mutual? Do you know her real name, been to her home, etc?

TBH, nothing is really free...as the saying goes, the most expensive pr*******e is your wife LOL. If your SP stays overnight, I am sure you'll pay in other ways.

Never watched the show GFE...have enough personal experience and reading stories on boards like these that watching shows like these is not needed.

Joedp… you’ve asked an interesting (and somewhat intrusive)  question… so I took the time to go back thru this topic and read all your posts.  After reading all of  them, I don’t understand what you’re trying to find; or more correctly, I don’t think you know what you want.

I’ll offer this … I’m in a wonderful, monogamous relationship with a former (well known) provider… we’ve been together for almost 4 years.  Our relationship continually gets better over time because we agreed early on to be committed to each other and trust each other, so we both enjoy continually  learning about ourselves and our relationship and how to make it better.

Everything I read in your posts implies an attitude of  suspicion or distrust.  You will never have a successful relationship by bringing that baggage into a relationship.

Just my 2 cents.  Not trying to provoke a response.

joedp120 reads

You must be referring to:

https://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/ter-general-board-12/monogamous-girlfriend-is-retired-provider-1001940

I didn't comment on that thread you created.

The questions I asked were not meant for you.

No, I’m not on the wrong thread.  I tried to be polite and suggest your comments were confused about what we’re seeking , but you didn’t get it. So, I’ll be blunt.  You’re a dumbass, which is why you can’t figure out how to have a good relationship with a woman.  
And I don’t give a fuck what you think of me. I have a fantastic relationship with a beautiful, sexy lady.  Unlike you.

very tightly wound today.  Is your retired provider girlfriend still charging you a donation or what?   Lol

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Posted By: coeur-de-lion
Re: Whoa!!!  You seem . . . .
very tightly wound today.  Is your retired provider girlfriend still charging you a donation or what?   Lol
Yeah, @jpj is certainly wound up today, calling me a "dumbass" because I "can’t figure out how to have a good relationship with a woman."

We should be happy that he has "a good relationship with a woman" in a monogamous relationship with a former provider:

https://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/ter-general-board-12/monogamous-girlfriend-is-retired-provider-1001940  

But I think he's not sure that his girlfriend may still be working behind his back. So, he's checking this site just to make sure she is truly retired. Or he's bored and itching to see someone new and checking out this site.

Cour-de-lion (lyingass) is quite well known on this board .. and not in a positive way.
You’re both totally clueless 😂😂😂

one review a year since you joined TER we should regard YOU as the expert when it comes to this biz?  Do you realize how  
naive and clueless YOU sound?  BTW, I provide as much informational content here as anyone else, but you just don't like the style in which I do it because oftentimes, the posers are the butt of the humor.  

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