TER General Board

We will agree to disagree again. But I have a few questions, if ok.
Black--Panther 89 reads
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2 / 47

Good thread, because it is too easy to focus on negatives.  

#1 Saves me a ton of money in avoiding scams and bad experiences.

 
#2 Sets expectations, in general, for services provided and rendered. I also know I'm getting sex and BBBJ (versus covered).

 
#3 I can "shop" and price compare. Like going to a car dealership and having a general idea on what the price is versus getting haggled to a higher dollar amount by the car salesman.

AlicinWunderland 90 reads
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3 / 47

Like my dearly departed husband always said:

  "There's an ass for every seat!"

~A

P.S. Hi, De....

sdottaylor 19 Reviews 93 reads
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4 / 47

It gives me a community of people I can talk about this with. Can’t talk about this at work or with family. And 1-3, that I know of, of my friends has paid for it so conversations with my friends will be very one sided.

36363jensen 4 Reviews 87 reads
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5 / 47

TER seems to be truly interested in offering an industry level forum where both sides of the fence are treated fairly and equally. I do think they -- and the majority of posters and reviewer -- are interested in accuracy of information that allows fair expectations setting prior to making any arrangements.

 
I think it is quite fair to say that TER reviews stack up well against any of the other review collections one get from "open source" reviews such as Amazon, Yelp, and every other site allowing consumers to post their opinions.

DeClemente 48 Reviews 97 reads
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6 / 47

Posted By: sdottaylor
Re: Positive
It gives me a community of people I can talk about this with. Can’t talk about this at work or with family. And 1-3, that I know of, of my friends has paid for it so conversations with my friends will be very one sided.
VERY good point, sdottaylor! I hadn't looked at it that way, but now that you mention it, that's my exact situation too.  Noooooooobody in my everyday life knows about my P4P life, I have to keep them separate or else both of them might go away. It sure is difficult not being able to confide in one of my buddies, but I know how that can unexpectedly backfire some day, so I keep mum.
TER is the outlet for it.  Thanks, GREAT ANSWER.

RespectfulRobert 104 reads
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7 / 47

Can you blame them? And that is why so many have left. There are several things I love about Ter i.e. reading differing viewpoints, being able to see an ad I might not see elsewhere, having a chat by DM, making friends, etc. With that said, equality is not one of them. The women are not treated as equals here.

chunking 93 Reviews 103 reads
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8 / 47

Unlike Ad boards;  Honest reviews; with cranks and a*holes weeded out.
Comparing the reality with the reviews, the reviews are a little oversold, but not bad.

Indulging in P4P is one of the last taboos, so it's good to have the on-line community.

Black--Panther 108 reads
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9 / 47

Very true. I've only talked with other guys about the hobby while sitting in the hot tub in FKK's in Germany. There your'e walking around and can hang out and shoot the shit with other guys; like being at the country club - except you can fuck every single woman in the establishment and they are all smoking hot.

36363jensen 4 Reviews 117 reads
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10 / 47

I don't think that is TER but the TER community. I was speaking specifically about TER the platform tool.

GaGambler 100 reads
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11 / 47

Many/most of the women want to be treated in an "equal" manner, but others want to be treated in a "special" manner, and they can't have it both ways. Women are either equal or they or not, which means when a woman lies, she should be get called out for lying just like a man.

 
I bet you I have as many hooker buddies as anyone you will ever meet and I do treat them "fairly and equally" but there are a bunch of the uber sensitive types, just like the whiny little he-cunts around here who aren't satisfied with fair and equal, they want to be treated with kid gloves.

 
Now I concede that there really are some jerks here who look at all providers as "whores" who are beneath them, but those guys are routinely shouted down and dismissed by guys just like me. MOST of the guys here are more than fair when talking to the ladies here.

Hpygolky 214 Reviews 102 reads
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12 / 47

It's the reviews. Other sites have reviews but there's something about a TER review and it's format that is really great and informative. But it still takes some work on your part but this site makes it so much easier. And depending on where I'm playing, I like the local boards. I just wished there would be more participation but, I work with the hand that's dealt.
And the messaging site is really cool, I'll get a few private messages and we'll share information so it's like our own lil gossip center...So yes ladies, we do talk.

GaGambler 115 reads
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13 / 47

Except for everywhere else. lol

 
I don't personally get much use out of the reviews anymore since I haven't live in "TER Territory" in several years. But the review data base is still the best in existence that I know of.

 
I obviously like the discussion boards and I have made a lot of friends here, both male and female who's friendship have often transcended the hooker/john world. And of course I also have my share of detractors, but like the saying goes "You haven't truly made it on the internet until you have attracted your very own stalker" lol

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 73 reads
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14 / 47

and for guys like Robert, fair and equal is not fair and equal at all.  He wants to elevate the treatment of women so that they are superior, and while a lot of guys will not necessarily think that way in their everyday lives, for some reason, when it comes to the P4P biz, they want to put hookers up on a pedestal and be more deferential because these ladies are "allowing" them to rent their pussy.  I don't do that any more than I would put the lady at the Avis counter who rents me a car on a pedestal.  She's just doing her job.  I will always be polite unless she does or says something that no longer deserves it.  

Like you, I have formed many lasting friendships with working women because I treat them just like I do my other friends, which means EVERYONE is truly equal.  I don't mince words with my guy friends, so I won't do it with my female friends either.  Likewise, I give them the full measure of respect that I do all of my other friends. I think a lot of women appreciate and respect guys who are "being real" with them a lot more than fake guys who are fawning over them all the time.

RespectfulRobert 93 reads
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15 / 47

Unlike many other review sites of all types, in all lines of work, Ter doesn't allow a response from the "service" i.e. the providers. Please explain how that is fair and equal? I don't think Ter's biggest defenders would claim that. They may like that women can't respond, which would baffle me, but I don't think they would claim it is "fair." The person(s) who initially designed and implemented this software didn't have "fairness" in mind as it was, as best I can tell, a pro "consumer" i.e. a pro "client" site from day one. Not trying to be argumentative with you Jensen, just trying to see your point. Thank you for your time and response!

nevertoolarge 28 Reviews 100 reads
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16 / 47

one major negative ...........this site has cost me easily well into six figures over the years  ..  being so easy to find stunning willing alluring breathtaking reliable sexy women available to satisfy my male sexual desires.   how can these people sleep at night being responsible for encouraging me to spend all that money ..  my wallet would be better off replying to a Nigerian lottery email !   !  LOL    

my internet visits, TER is second only to CNN !  keep up this important work responsible for helping so many men maintain their sexual and emotional sanity !  

Black--Panther 85 reads
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17 / 47

I CAN blame them because some walk in here with the attitude that this is the real world and it is not. Meaning, they are hot women and guys are falling over themselves to be nice to them IRL; impress them, and bow down to them because they are good looking and just maybe if they are nice to her she'll fuck them. I'm worth $$$$$ if I just spread my legs and lie there, you're just lucky to be with me. Then get pissed when its pointed out their service sucks.

 
Here, they are a commodity. Often times they just post to advertise. The good ones are business women, who understand this is a business and treat customers and potential customers well, even it means taking crap sometimes. But also not getting walked over either, but doing it politely. You can be friendly with your barber, but at the end of the day, you are the client. Some women forget that, 'tee her' look at me I'm cute, and then get pissed off when its pointed out that her and a 100 other women on this site are hot; you're not so special. That's when you often see the entertaining train wrecks.

RespectfulRobert 109 reads
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18 / 47

Do you think Ter made any mistakes, particularly in the last few years, specifically re: the avalanche of fantastic women that decided to leave Ter? I am sure you would agree that them leaving has not made the site better and has actually hurt it greatly. Looking back GaGambler, and had you been advising them, would you have made any attempt whatsoever to try and keep the many great women from leaving?  If so, what? Thank you for your time.

DeClemente 48 Reviews 84 reads
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19 / 47

Posted By: RespectfulRobert
Re: You think the "platform tool" is fair to women?
Unlike many other review sites of all types, in all lines of work, Ter doesn't allow a response from the "service" i.e. the providers. Please explain how that is fair and equal? I don't think Ter's biggest defenders would claim that. They may like that women can't respond, which would baffle me, but I don't think they would claim it is "fair." The person(s) who initially designed and implemented this software didn't have "fairness" in mind as it was, as best I can tell, a pro "consumer" i.e. a pro "client" site from day one. Not trying to be argumentative with you Jensen, just trying to see your point. Thank you for your time and response!
Robert, NO ONE can respond directly to any posted review on TER, male or female, correct?

Depending on what level of TER access a person has, ANY person. opportunities to respond are through Discussion Boards (like this one), or Contact Us, Help, Problem Reports, Support, etc.

Providers do have a way to express themselves on TER.

-- Modified on 5/29/2021 12:57:56 PM

lester_prairie 12 Reviews 88 reads
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20 / 47

I read all the beginner guide stuff before jumping in. I hang on here because it's really the only place to discuss this life.

Kissington 40 Reviews 107 reads
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21 / 47

TER is a really useful tool in identifying quality providers versus providers who are scammers, LE, bat-shit crazy, etc. TER is the reason I started seeing providers in the first place, cause before I knew of its existence I wouldn’t dare attempt meeting a provider out of fear of being robbed, beaten, stabbed, arrested, what have you. TER is really useful in taking that first step and overcoming the fears and concerns I had previously.

It’s also really helpful in finding providers that cater to the GFE services that I typically prefer. Sure, a girl might be pretty, but if she doesn’t DFK then I might have to reconsider my options. It’s why I usually take the number ratings with a grain of salt, cause what one guy or some guys like about a girl may differ from what I enjoy. Written reviews are really helpful in that regard.

That said, TER has its own share of problems and that 2 year gap in U.S. availability really hurt it in a lot of ways even years after it became available again. Its region specific boards are mostly dead, for example, making them pretty useless. I use other review sites in addition to TER to find quality providers, but TER is still the most useful of the bunch.

barebear3 38 Reviews 144 reads
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22 / 47

the "60 and over" board has been very helpful to me.  

The "Photos Only" gives my blood pressure a nice jolt every morning.  

I keep waiting for the "FKK Clubs" board has some news. (I love mongering in Europe)

Lastly the "Porn Stars" board provides recommendations as to what porn star I should watch.

TheVoiceOfReason 111 reads
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23 / 47

Helps keep me safe and use my time efficiency.  Before I discovered TER I remember calling adds out of the yellow pages and rolling the dice all too often.  Now I don't have to gamble.

DeClemente 48 Reviews 87 reads
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24 / 47

Posted By: TheVoiceOfReason
Re: TER
Helps keep me safe and use my time efficiency.  Before I discovered TER I remember calling adds out of the yellow pages and rolling the dice all too often.  Now I don't have to gamble.
Before TER, I was also calling numbers in a local classified ad newspaper! Being the lunkhead I am, even after more than one woman responded to my question of what she looked like with, "Didn't you see my description and my pictures in my online ad?" I would say, "I only saw the classified ad in XYZ newspaper." They were practically leading me to the 20th Century by telling me to go online, but it took more than a year for me to finally do it. From there, I then found TER.

Black--Panther 96 reads
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25 / 47

I hear you. I'm wondering why TER allowed providers to delist themselves. I'm not sure what leverage they had to make TER make that move. I was one who didn't think providers added much, but I'll eat some shoe on that one. They do add value. Just not the train wrecks. Ms Hollander for one is very helpful.

IHeartLV 10 Reviews 116 reads
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26 / 47

...are a great one-two punch.  I won’t see a provider who isn’t on P411 and doesn’t have a solid review history here on TER.  Using both of these resources together has taken so much stress out of booking a date.

impposter 49 Reviews 213 reads
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27 / 47

There are a couple of recent threads about the reliability and quality of Reviews. I wasn't sure where best to post my views, so I am replying to chunking. (Aside: Is that "chunking" as in the present participle of the verb to chunk?  "He was really hungry and chunking down that lasagna by the mouthful!" Or is "chunking" a contraction of the old brand of canned Chinese food Chun King?  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chun_King Or something else?  Whatever it may be ...)
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Many times in the past, I have proposed that TER adopt a Secret Shopper version of Review Authentication. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mystery_shopping
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Some earlier posts (and replies and comments):
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/suggestion-and-policy-4/secret-shopper-authentication-15598
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/ter-general-board-12/get-in-line-932125
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Only mongers of the highest integrity would be approved by TER to "shop" for the purposes of authenticating reviews and WEEDING OUT the fakes or correcting inaccurate reviews. In addition to myself in the NorthEast, a few others in various TER regions might be able to qualify.

Posted By: chunking
Re: By mongers, for mongers
Unlike Ad boards;  Honest reviews; with cranks and a*holes weeded out.  
 Comparing the reality with the reviews, the reviews are a little oversold, but not bad.  
   
 Indulging in P4P is one of the last taboos, so it's good to have the on-line community.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 88 reads
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28 / 47

US access for 20 months from April 2018 to December 2019.  Women were FORCED to find other places to advertise and interact with potential customers.   Some of them are slowly coming back to TER when they realize that its still the best site to find mongers who know the biz and won't waste their time.  

 
Your question is hypothetical because with TER blacked out in the US, it doesn't matter if any of us would have tried to dissuade them from leaving,  or not.  That wasn't an option.   Only a few ladies stayed on TER during the blackout, and there were only about  a dozen mongers who were posting on the boards regularly.  However, I will say that there are some that haven't come back that I miss, and others that I say good riddance to.  

Black--Panther 98 reads
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29 / 47

A positive is my anxiety is way down from wondering if it is law enforcement on the other side of the door. I remember all too well the unpleasant feeling of prepping myself for the potential of getting arrested. Doing the LEO check, grabbing her pussy or kissing her right away.

20strojl 13 Reviews 109 reads
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30 / 47

And plenty of good responses, so let me add my .02:

TER has been an absolute godsend for me no doubt. I ventured into this hobby 5 years ago at the age of 70 lookin for some young  lovin, (real or pseudo lol) and not interested in grannies. Over here I was able to find a plethora of hobby knowledge by reading and inhaling EVERYTHING I could find here, the discussion boards, reviews, ads, you name it and I learned plenty! I couldn't believe there was a site available like this one which was like a tutorial for newbie me. Little by little I re-gained my youthful confidence, reprogrammed my conservative attitude about p4p then filtered and sifted through providers in my region that I found attractive. I began to see them  often and landed on several real winners thanks to TER reviews. One of them is still my ATF after 5 years and I see her regularly. I will not see any girl anymore that doesn`t have reviews, no exceptions (Pay attention ladies!) I've been bait n switched and burned too many times!
The more I played, the more I learned etc. and now consider myself a pretty savvy monger, thanks in part to TER.

 
I was crushed when this site went on hiatus but elated when they came back albeit relocated in a "friendly" country and with the FOSTA law overturned by a US court of appeals. Slowly but surely they`ve increased user numbers and hopefully they get back up to their huge numbers before they went south. Seems that the administrative board is a little more relaxed now than before. I didn`t  visit here often when they first returned but now I post replies more and more responding to good threads like this one.

Thanks to girls like Debra Hollander and Steph Mature GFE et al  that hung in here and continually post informative stuff.

Nice goin TER, glad you're back, you`re aces in my book.

20strojl 13 Reviews 99 reads
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31 / 47

Posted By: IHeartLV
Re: TER & P411.....
...are a great one-two punch.  I won’t see a provider who isn’t on P411 and doesn’t have a solid review history here on TER.  Using both of these resources together has taken so much stress out of booking a date.
Amen Dude, Amen.

lester_prairie 12 Reviews 93 reads
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32 / 47

FOSTA was overturned?  

chunking 93 Reviews 91 reads
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33 / 47

Yup, wish there was better QA, fake reviews hurt everybody.

The first person to figure out how to reliably stop a crowdsourced rating system from being manipulated will win the Nobel prize.

As other people have noted, top providers are moving away from reviews, they don't need them.

As I've noted before .. the internet Ads/reviews brought punters into the P4P game who would be too shy to do it the "old way" .. cruising the track,  chatting up B-girls in Ficha bars, passing along numbers of call girls after a night of heavy drinking..

I'm curious to see what the Bible Bangers/Q-Anon crowd turn their attention to once they overturn Roe v. Wade .. I don't expect that middle-aged East Asian sex workers are going to be high on their radar, but you never know, look at Robert Kraft.

my-0.02-cents 108 reads
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34 / 47

TER has all the information that makes setting up a date much easier.  

Right now escorts on social media just want a newbie to figure everything out and send their information and a deposit to  any twitter account that posts selfies in a thong. I have seen so many twitter accounts that popup like a new provider and just disappear after couple of months and almost all profiles have something like "50% deposit required no exceptions" but some of the images are clearly stolen from escorts that have retired.  

A provider I used to see a lot has gained noticeable weight but she is still posting pictures from 3-5 years ago and acting like the client wont notice the new 20-30lbs she has gained.

It is very hard to find exact thing you are looking for on social media because asking directly will get you blocked and attacked by providers. Imagine having a fantasy about a blonde 40-50 year old who does anal but on social media you can't ask and expected to book dates and pay $500-$1500 only to find out she doesn't offer anal.

GaGambler 94 reads
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35 / 47

They'll be following the almost exclusively DEMOCRATIC members of the feminist movement who are leading the charge against what consenting adults can do BCD.

 
If you doubt me try going to any country in this hemisphere that's dominated by the Catholic Church, in virtually every one of those countries prostitution is mainly legal and hookers seem to co-exist with the church just fine, but in every one of these countries where legalized prostitution is under attack it's not the church doing it, its feminists and soccer mom and feminists disguised as soccer moms. lol

impposter 49 Reviews 95 reads
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36 / 47

In response to right wing criticism of a NYC EMT who was also camming on-line to make ends meet (NYC EMT's are not paid well vs other cities), including doxing (outing) by the right wing NY Post, AOC came to her defense and said, "Sex work is work."

Posted By: GaGambler
Re: Whatever the "thumper crowd" does in regard to P4P
They'll be following the almost exclusively DEMOCRATIC members of the feminist movement who are leading the charge against what consenting adults can do BCD.  
     
 If you doubt me try going to any country in this hemisphere that's dominated by the Catholic Church, in virtually every one of those countries prostitution is mainly legal and hookers seem to co-exist with the church just fine, but in every one of these countries where legalized prostitution is under attack it's not the church doing it, its feminists and soccer mom and feminists disguised as soccer moms. lol

GaGambler 98 reads
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37 / 47

You really are beyond help, not to mention nothing you said refutes my point in the slightest.

 
I  see you have become allergic to links too. You normally post a half dozen of them in one of your typical posts

impposter 49 Reviews 102 reads
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38 / 47

You said, "Whatever the "thumper crowd" does in regard to P4P ... They'll be following the almost exclusively DEMOCRATIC members of the feminist movement who are leading the charge against what consenting adults can do BCD." It was RIGHTY Reps who outed and condemned the EMT.  AOC (a lefty Dem) came to her defense.  Camming isn't P4P but they are both sex work and the same sentiments apply.

Posted By: GaGambler
Re: So now you are an AOC fan
You really are beyond help, not to mention nothing you said refutes my point in the slightest.  

 I  see you have become allergic to links too. You normally post a half dozen of them in one of your typical posts
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/politics-and-religion-39/aoc-sex-work-is-work-394943
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/politics-and-religion-39/aoc-responds-sex-work-is-work-381292

20strojl 13 Reviews 106 reads
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40 / 47

Posted By: lester_prairie
Re: Great Thread
FOSTA was overturned?  
I was under that impression Lester, but I could be wrong (hate that lol) I just Googled this and it seems that the Woodhull Freedom Foundation who champions the rights of SW`s sued the federal government in the US District Court that this law was unconstitutional. The court threw out the suit and then Woodhull went to the US Court OF Appeals and won and the suit was reinstated and this is fact. It's current  status from what I can find on Google is unknown and could well be in limbo although I could almost swear I read that it was adjudicated in favor of  Woodhull which may have re-opened the door and motivated these review hobby sites get up and running again, albeit across the pond.

Again, I could be wrong here and that`s why I keep a big eraser on the end of my pencil. Maybe some of you sharpies over here can add to this.
Mea Culpa if I'm wrong :/

eroticspirit 27 Reviews 84 reads
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41 / 47

Spot on!! Those two platforms working in tandem are almost guaranteed to ensure your choice of provider is going to be the right fit for you--combined they're a great resource!!

abbtrader 106 Reviews 95 reads
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42 / 47

It’s a valuable tool to hopefully get a sense of reliability.  If someone has 20 reviews over 12-24 months, that cuts down the possibility of a scammer.  If ladies interact on the boards-much less rare than 10 years ago, occasionally I may get the sense that I wouldn’t like the person. Combine with p411, Twitter, and websites, the misfit factor is lessened.  Add recommendations from trusted providers and trusted mongers, the number of bad experiences is low,  usually things go bad when I’m horny and I cut corners.  

I guess I’m saying I screen as vigorously as most ladies

GiannaForever 112 reads
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team_rocket_qwerty 35 Reviews 86 reads
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44 / 47

I like that there are basically no annoying ads. This of course means that ter doesn't make a lot of money and most money comes from subs. But relatively clean and simple, lightweight, if slightly dated, layout is quite welcome.

 
As a review site, obviously it does its job. It helps mongers check for online presence and weed out the most blatant scammers/robs/stings. This isn't unique to ter, it's a function of any functional review site with historical data and some usage, but still... this is so important it cannot be stressed how many really really bad times were saved by such sites.  

 
I personally like the default review scale and how it doesn't pander to provider side.

 
Aside from full-text, the search capabilities for reviews are pretty solid.

 
The forum moderation is fairly reasonable and mostly laissez-faire.

 
I like that there are still some providers posting here, even if they are a huge minority. Always nice to have a different side of the story told even if I'm openly biased towards bros in the "bros vs pros" scale of things.

lester_prairie 12 Reviews 101 reads
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45 / 47

A "huge minority" is that like a vast smallness? :-)

team_rocket_qwerty 35 Reviews 92 reads
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46 / 47

Thanks for catching this Freudian oxymoron :D

dicksonthunder 13 Reviews 99 reads
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47 / 47

The lady who is my ATF (7 years and still going strong) advertised on an Ad Board when visiting the city I lived in at that time. A dozen visits since between me going to see her there, FMTY's and meeting in a mutual destination.  Two more visits already planned for the last half of this year.

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