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Was this a possible ROB?
khulus 7 Reviews 5982 reads
posted
1 / 15

I can't be sure if I avoided a ripoff, a sting or what? You tell me.  I will give you the facts without any attempt to flame or judge. Again, I AM NOT calling her a ROB at this point, just asking what you folks think.

I had seen this provider's ad at CityVibe and ErosGuide and felt she looked really hot.  I had also seen someone pushing her a bit on the message board, but no reviews yet.  I had previously attempted to contact her  via email, but apparently they had the wrong email in the ad.

I sent an email asking her to call me, but instead she responds via email asking when I want to see her.  We go back and forth deciding on incall at a motel tonite near where I live.  Then I ask her again to call me because I am getting tired of waiting a 15-30 minutes for the email response. About 20 minutes I get three separate phone calls with no one on the line. Then it rings a fourth time and when I answer, it's actually her on the line.  I've heard cell phones have this problem sometimes. She seems a little out of it, distant, only interested in picking a time.  There was no mention of price until I asked directly. She says her NORMAL fee is $250.  Remembering  a special deal mentioned on the message board and her emphasis of NORMAL, I asked if there was a special this week.  She made some awkward noises for a while and eventually seemed to remember there was a special.  "What IS the special?" $150.  Considering how awkward she seemed to be on the phone, I decided it best to discuss specifics and make a decision when I met her.

We agree on where and when to meet.  I will call her supposedly toll-free number from a payphone when I get there, supposedly she will tell me what room she is in. I went to the motel and had a hell of time getting the payphones to work. Frankly, I think it's just these crappy no-name payphones we put up with. So I go home (which isn't far away) and call from there.  Turns out I have to leave a message for her with her service to call me back anyway.  So how would I have gotten in at the Motel?  She calls back and tells me to come back -- she will meet me in the parking lot.  I drive back.  I  wander around for a minute, don't see her, then eventually spot her on the lobby. We wander through the parking lot and she asks if I have the money. I said yes, but I felt too uncomfortable paying in the parking lot.  She said she understood and so we went to the stairwell.  I asked her about this special she had mentioned on the phone.  "Oh, that's just a quickie thing..." as if it wasn't really available anyway. Sounds like a bit of a bait and switch on the price. I am starting to feel really uncomfortable with this. She says (for the second time) that the agency has a policy of getting the fee BEFORE they go to the room.  I tell her I have never experienced a policy like that, or even heard anyone talk about that on a message board. I am starting to think this could easily turn into a ROB situation.  All she has to do is take the money and walk away or lock me out of the room if she has one. I can't get the money back without grabbing her, risking arrest, a scene, etc. I am starting to wonder if maybe she doesn't have a room there at all. (Later, on the way home, I realized that she must have because she had a key card that got us into the stairway.) She keeps insisting that it's a policy to avoid ripoffs, getting beaten up, etc.  I take out the money and SHOW it to her, hold it in my hand, tell her I have to know that she actually has a room there before I can hand her any cash. I also needed to discuss what I was getting for that money and I wasn't about discuss that stuff in a stairwell! She says forget it, and I have to tell you, with all the crap I'd encoutered in this episode, it really felt like a relief! She was cute, but the attitude was not warm or sexy, just cool and business-like. I just walked away.  

It Didn't cost me a dime. Oddly, she didn't insist on a cancellation fee. The sign that it wasn't a sting is how clumsy everything was with her. She never tried to discuss sex for money. Vice cops just aren't that slow and disorganized.  But I have never heard of paying outside in a parking lot UNLESS it was a ROB. Even streetwalkers wait till you get to the room, right? And what would she have done in an outcall situation? Make me pay before she enters my home?

One last point: I got an email afterwards that was apparently from her agency. It was apologizing and claiming it was a necessary policy.  Of course, that could mean that they just want a second chance at ripping me off.

What so you think?

TheLostSchlong 14 Reviews 4589 reads
posted
2 / 15

Your analysis is very good. This was obviously a bad situation about to get worse. Any agency with such a weird policy is dumb or crooked or both. Now, how can other hobbyists avoid the agency unless you mention the city and name in the Eros ad?

Mi6 3814 reads
posted
3 / 15

Khulus,

You made the right call.  Always trust your instinct.  If your gut tells you it time to move on -- well! it time to move on.

Now, you can do all of us a favor by making a post of this agency, and provider.  That way, no one else has to go through a similar experience.

When someone asks you for the money out in the open -- its time to walk. Besides, I am not a strong advocate for the e-mail banter either.  At some point, you have to have a dialogue.  If the provider doesn't feel comfortable doing that -- there has to be a good explanation.

Happy hunting ...

mi6



riker 7 Reviews 4725 reads
posted
4 / 15

It was awkward, unprofessional and disconcerting. Walking away was the right thing to do and us SF folks, particularly deserve a proper warning. Please post your warning on the SF board.
Thanks,
riker

-- Modified on 6/10/2002 9:27:56 AM

Relky 20 Reviews 4579 reads
posted
5 / 15

I've learned the hard way that if the encounter starts out poorly, it only gets worse. You wrote that her "attitude was not warm or sexy, just cool and business-like." THAT would have been enough for me to leave. From my experience, a provider's greeting is an accurate barometer of how she'll be during the session. And I've NEVER seen an ornery provider suddenly transform into an affectionate GFE upon receiving the gift. Plus, if you piss her off, even though she's clearly being unreasonable, that will most likely extinguish what little enthusiasm she may have offered. You made the right move. Even if she didn't take the money and run, the encounter would not have been worth it.

khulus 7 Reviews 3741 reads
posted
7 / 15

I posted this question at Redbook and there also they were demanding the name of the provider. I am afraid if I do that the provider, her pimp, or her friends will be in here with their 2 cents muddying up the conversation.

Also, I am hoping someone will either say they paid in advance that way once and it turned out OK, *OR* someone will say that they got ripped off this way.  As long as I feel like I am the only client in the world this has ever happened to, I feel awkward writing up a review.  

I do intend to write up a review *soon*, posting it here and at Redbook.

riker 7 Reviews 4981 reads
posted
8 / 15

If I found myself in that same situation I would get out of there fast.

Looking forward to your review.
riker

khulus 7 Reviews 4792 reads
posted
9 / 15

After a lot of discussion, I guess no one has either heard of this as a ROB strategy or legitmate business practice, so I feel kinda stumped as to how to call it.

In the San Francisco Bay Area, she goes by Coffee, and there is an active person on message boards going by "Daiquiri James" that claims to be a provider/friend that promotes Coffee.  Make what you will of this...

As for a review, well, it will be about the same as the base post above.

CurlyW-NatsFan 83 reads
posted
10 / 15

I would have probably done the same..   But then again, i don't go and see girls who have no reviews..  A body of reviews and some back channeling is the way to go..

-- Modified on 9/20/2022 3:42:55 PM

CurlyW-NatsFan 95 reads
posted
12 / 15

Clicked on the link with my mouse, and also because I am bored and no NATS this Oct..  LOL

-- Modified on 9/20/2022 5:43:01 PM

36363jensen 4 Reviews 93 reads
posted
13 / 15

LOL, well obviously but that makes it sound like "Yeah, I took the left, not a right, at the corner." but that begs the question just how did you find yourself in the position to see a link to a twenty year old post to click on in the first place!

 
I am wondering if perhaps this deserves some award for the oldest revived post. There have been more than a few that have been popping up over the past year. Nostalgia????

CurlyW-NatsFan 98 reads
posted
14 / 15

No seriously.. Clicked on the link with the mouse..  

 
At the bottom right of your screen there are page numbers.. Click on 1827.. That's Pg. 1827.. The oldest one is about 20 yrs old.. LOL..  

 
I wasn't being a smartass when I said I clicked on it with a mouse.. well.. maybe a little bit of a smartass but not much..

-- Modified on 9/20/2022 5:51:48 PM

36363jensen 4 Reviews 85 reads
posted
15 / 15

LOL

 
. . . as long as it was just "a little bit of a smartass" ;-)

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