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If the provider is on P411 99% sure she is real. P411 just did reverification of providers. Now....YOU should actually check on P411 to confirm the provider is indeed real and is actually on P411. I have seen "providers" lie with a fake P411 ID to say they are real and on the website, when they are just scamming you and actually don't have a profile on the site.  
I think the junk site STG actually does more to confirm the providers are indeed real than Eros. There are 15 "providers" listed in Wisconsin on Eros and I can confirm 2 are real yet 14 out of the 15 have the "Eros verified" checkmark.

Need your guidance/advice. When a provider lacks TER review and website, do you trust she's real if she has a P411 profile? What if she's "Eros Verified"? I'm not clear what type of due diligence those sites do to actually provide that certification.

"Eros verified" means nothing as far as I know. It's meaningless.  

 
P411 does make an effort to ensure that female members are real providers. To what extent, I don't know.

Ditto to HolyStoneTheDeck's response.  Eros has a long history of fake Providers.  I've never had an issue with P411 and have been a member for 13 years.  

I cannot say with absolute certainty but my understanding is the Verified tag on Eros is just like some other sites; it is a statement about the pictures and they verify by video confirmation of the images, and perhaps the phone number listed. (Perhaps some of the providers that use/have used Eros can correct if not the case) Does that mean it's safe or that certain? No, it just means that Eros was able to match submitted pics with someone claiming to be the advertised provider. So I would suggest not changing how you do your search and your own due diligence just because someone you're interested in has an Eros Verified tag on an ad.

 
P411 used to (but offered ways around for those not willing to submit PII) require real world information including DL info. I think this was for running standard background checks. Several providers here have said their verification is pretty detailed with P411. But again, just how solid that is, especially if various work-arounds exist, is anyone guess. While not easy for many, getting that type of information is not that difficult so identity theft for such purposes is not unheard of.  

 
I think most people trust the collection of reviews and who the reviewers were (does the reviewer have a good history or reviews or just one or two) much more than any ad site Verification tag or P411.

Just FYI, P411 is reverifying all providers and they no longer allow any providers on the site without real world verification information. Any provider that was allowed on the site before using a "work around" has to be reverified. I am not aware that P411 does any background checks on any providers but they do require more information than any other site that I am aware of to confirm the provider is at least 18 and is indeed a real person.  

P411 requires either two recent reviews on a verified review site such as TER, or vouches from two client members of P411, who are paid members in good standing and have okays from at least five providers. If reviews are used, the reviewers must have written at least five other reviews.

Additionally, it requires government ID, a selfie holding that ID, and a selfie holding today’s newspaper. They are not running background checks or doing anything with that information, except verifying that the person is of legal age. There is no way around this component for providers.

I don’t believe Eros did any video. They did require me to submit my identification and, for any faceless photo I submitted, I had to submit a version of it that included my face, so that they could match that against my verification selfie.

Getting “Eros verified,” though, just meant that I took a piece of paper and wrote down “EROS.com” and maybe my name and date on it, and took a selfie.

All of these sites require an ID and a selfie at this point. The question is simply whether scammers can pay random women to make accounts and then hand off the information. P411 makes this almost prohibitively difficult by requiring reviews or vouchers from members who are not new.

If the provider is on P411 99% sure she is real. P411 just did reverification of providers. Now....YOU should actually check on P411 to confirm the provider is indeed real and is actually on P411. I have seen "providers" lie with a fake P411 ID to say they are real and on the website, when they are just scamming you and actually don't have a profile on the site.  
I think the junk site STG actually does more to confirm the providers are indeed real than Eros. There are 15 "providers" listed in Wisconsin on Eros and I can confirm 2 are real yet 14 out of the 15 have the "Eros verified" checkmark.

To all the ladies who chimed in to advise how P411 operates from the provider side.

hehitshewins79 reads

Agree with what has been said. However, p411 only takes you so far. You’re at least getting the lady in the pictures, in all likelihood. But it doesn’t really tell you much about her service. If you’re okay with that, fire away. I have successfully met with ladies not on TER. It’s both worked out well and has been a disappointment.

In your opinion, how trustworthy is P411’s “okay” system?  

-Hoot.

Can you elaborate on what you mean by “trustworthy”?

hehitshewins45 reads

IMO, it doesn’t tell you much. It’s just more of a chance she’s legit. If you’re worried she may screw you over, it decreases the chances of that. But if you want her to do x, y, and z in the bedroom, it doesn’t help.

P411 does not do criminal background checks for vetting clients it verifies your human.  

Eros is full of fake ads.

Maybe I'm wrong or they changed it, but I thought a provider had to be reviewed and a couple other things to be on P411.

Read this whole thread. Other ladies have explained what's needed to get on P411.

Pick one and follow the process.....probably just fine.....would suggest not sending a deposit until you have at least Eye Balled The Prize!

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