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MPR-Man 4 Reviews 5081 reads
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Providers everywhere:
Where do you range each ethnicity (men) base only on your honest
experiences? 10 being highest and 1 being lowest. Look at this as an overall base on: Professional manner, respectful to you, extra tip$, clean, on time, bottom line your prefer clienteles.
White
African American
Asian, Latino
Native American
French
German
Italian
English
Russian
Middle Eastern
Etc….

Hobblist everywhere:
Where do you range each ethnicity (girls) base only on your honest experiences? 10 being highest and 1 being lowest. Look at this as an overall base on: GFE -intimacy, respectful to you, extra effort, clean, on time, bottom line your prefer providers.
White
African American
Asian
Latino
Native American
French
German
Italian
English
Russian
Middle Eastern
Etc….

We all should forget about the race issue and just be honest. Is this hobby profiling? No.

adam46 5933 reads
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2 / 67

I'm a bit confused why you put "White" and then French, German,
Italian, etc.. in a different category. By "White" do you mean
White American?

Anyway, here are my ratings for escorts (for the record, I am
an American Caucasion):

1) Asian - they are simply the best
2) Eastern European (including Russian)
3) Western European (French,Italian,German, etc..)
4) White American - some can be nice, others (especially
  the young and pretty ones -- the ones I am most attracted
  to) have MAJOR attitudes.
5) Latina - some are real cute.
6) Indian / Middle Eastern - have been with only a few
7) Native American - I have only known one.
8) Black - I do not go with black girls.

garrett1142 24 Reviews 3691 reads
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3 / 67

I have been with at least 3 girls, if not more, from practically every race.  My conclusion would be that race has absolutely nothing to do with a providers ability to provide.  I couldn’t even begin to give performance ratings according to race and here’s why:  It’s not like "every girl of this race is amazing" or "every girl of this race is terrible."  It’s that within each race there are good providers, not-so-good providers and average providers.  

I’d say the more important factor is age/experience, and not race.  I’d feel comfortable saying that girls in their late 20’s and early 30’s are the best!

"We all should forget about the race issue and just be honest."
- MPR-Man

You’re right.  Honestly, race is not the issue.  

Garrett1142

HarryLime 10 Reviews 3938 reads
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4 / 67

However, I'm NOT accusing any body of being narrow minded if they have opinions.   I would guess that stronger correlates to a good experience would be education and a similar background with your partner

Rebel Yell 2 Reviews 4100 reads
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5 / 67

Asian...Asian...Asian... They have always been the best and the best looking since the beginning of time!!!!!!

sedonasandiego See my TER Reviews 4228 reads
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6 / 67

There are too many variables to make any sense or any difference.
Some time ago, a provider posted something about most clients being engineers, and the others are usually doctors, lawyers, and I can't remember what else - maybe CEO's. She mentioned some sterotypical characteristics pertaining to their attitude, behavior and how they are as clients. Funny thing is, she was pretty darn right on! I chatted about that post with a few local ladies here, who'd also read the post and we chuckled at how accurate she was.
But, at the same time, though she mentioned doctors and lawyers being the worst clients, I have a few of each and they are great! So, it's not really fair to say that.

The same might go for your question. I would disagree very much with education (by itself) as a plus - as I find it equally a plus or a minus.

We have talked about age being a factor, and I agree, and we've talked about 'culture' (more importantly than race) being a factor, and again I would agree.

I will say this: for whatever reason, I have a large number of Jewish clients, and they have been great.

singleton 5 Reviews 3291 reads
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Snowblind 10 Reviews 4059 reads
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Actually, this "hobby" of ours as we refer to it seems to be one of the few places in life that transcends just about everything having to do with ethnicity(at least in my limited experience so far). And i like that very much.

I can't rate someone who is black, white, latino, pole, russian and so on any better or worse then any other because of the level of ........intimacy?? ...... that takes place between the parties involved. It's as much about personallity and conversation as it is anything else(at least for me it is), and that can't be narrowed down to one type of person.

The only catagory that i could possibly set one lady apart from another, and i'm sure this is partly because of what i said in the paragraph above, is age. There is something to be said for a lady 35 or over. For me, they are without a doubt the best. I have been with a couple younger ladies and had a nice time, but personally i have a much easier time talking with/ relating with someone closer to my own age or older then i am. Maybe i'm just old before my time?



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adam46 4727 reads
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Cheif Redbeard 3342 reads
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Unfortunately, to properly answer this question, one needs a sample of at least 1000.  I shall have to try over 1000 girls in each catagory to answer.  I'll get back to you in a while......

Melanie Love See my TER Reviews 3823 reads
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12 / 67

It's posts these types of posts, which makes me burning mad for some reason LoL I judge people, individually, NOT on their race.  I don't believe that one race is better than the other, either. I was not brought up to be small minded, for I find beauty in all races, and that is what makes us all unique. We all are equal in God's eyes, and that is all that should be prevelant.  As long as you can make me scream your name,and I can make "it" thump, like no other, than that is all that should matter. Now, this is just my view, and it may reflect a small minority here on this board, and I will say that no matter who comes to me: brown, red, yellow, green, purple, even Martian love!  LOL I will give you the my 100% best of what I have to offer :)

My 0.02 cents.



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Snowblind 10 Reviews 4218 reads
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13 / 67

It's posts like mine that make you mad Mel, or the thread topic in general? Sorry if something i said offended you, but it is how i feel.

Snow

adam46 3542 reads
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15 / 67

Everyone thinks in terms of race!!! To deny this is to deny the
truth. This is why blacks cheered when O.J was given the innocent
verdict and whites were outraged.

People of different races will continue to make each other
miserable until they can admit to themselves that race is
foremost in their minds!!!

pornboy 3995 reads
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garrett1142 24 Reviews 3992 reads
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17 / 67

"Everyone thinks in terms of race!!!" - adam46

You’re right!  We all acknowledge race, but the point we’re trying to make is that race has absolutely nothing to do with how good of a provider you are!!!!!
There’s nothing wrong with a hobbyist preferring girls of a specific race; but race is in no way an accurate way to measure a providers ability to provide.  One of the best providers I’ve ever been with was black - and one of the worst I’ve ever been with was also.  

Think about it,
Garrett1142

crankyasianman 18 Reviews 3356 reads
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18 / 67

i do not care if she is the green alien gal from the 1960s "star trek" series as long as she treats me nice.

OldTraveler 40 Reviews 3814 reads
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Why do you consider it a cop out?  I am not going to question your statement above that race is foremost in your mind, but I get annoyed when you say that it is foremost in my mind as well.

Am I race neutral?  No, I’m not.  Few if any of us are.  But I have worked hard to eliminate my biases one by one, and don’t particularly like being pained with your wide paint brush.  But race sure isn’t the first thing I think of, and it hardly ever affects my choice of Ladies to see.  Age does (I find 30+ y/o women are generally more interesting to be with, and more likely to relate to a my experience base), hair color does (all else being equal I like dark hair, so this is a small bias against Scandinavians), and a sense of humor on a Lady’s web site certainly does.

All I will say about the original post in this thread is that I find it impossible to make such generalities about what is probably the most personal/individual experience that exists.  The absolute best experience I have ever had was with a eastern European Lady.  The absolute worst experience I have ever had was with an eastern European Lady (no, not the same one), so does that average out to the middle spot on your rankings?  I don’t know, and personally, don’t particularly care.

adam46 3994 reads
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1) I do not believe the initial post was requesting that
  escorts/clients be judged on race, rather it asked how
  each individuals experience was with those persons of
  different races that they have been with. This is what I
  gave, a sinopsis of my personal experiences.

2) The reason for my "A cop out!!!" post was due to Melinda
  using the phrase "burning mad". This smacked of the typical
  liberal "PC" knee jerk reaction to any question about race,
  and I reacted to that with the typical "anti-PC" Conservative
  Libertarian reaction, I guess.

singleton 5 Reviews 3920 reads
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recent genetic studies (mitochondrial DNA tracing) have shown that the within-race variations of every ethnic population are more often than not GREATER and more significant than the between-race variations

in lay terms that means you are more likely to share phylogenetic (as well as ontogenetic) similarities with a South Pacific Islander (which i'm guessing you're not) than with a white Anglo-Saxon of European descent (which i'm guessing you are)

so what does that tell you about categorizing people?

adam46 4900 reads
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22 / 67

The original poster of this message wasn't Dr. Mengele!!!
Why are you hitting me with scientific terms when this was
never part of the discussion? No one was giving a discourse
on how one race is genetically superior to another.

It was a simple question asking people to relate from their
own personal experiences, which is what I did. I was very
surprised that other people have such a problem with this.

Just so you know, I am hardly "Anglo-Saxon". I am of Southern
European descent. Mengele would have eventually gotten to me as
well.

By the way, I believe you posted a message not long ago
calling Judge Roy Moore a "Dumb Hick". You question me
for "categorizing people" yet you see no problem with
hurling an epithet (I have never heard anyone but a White
Southerner called a "hick") at a man who is just standing
up for what he believes in? This is liberal hypocrisy at
its finest. I realize that about 90% of this site is probably
left wing, but I always thought that the left wing believed
in "dissenting opinions". Something for you to think about...

llcar 10 Reviews 4304 reads
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24 / 67

my Caucasian friend (not caucasion - guess spelling varies by race ?)

book_guy 14 Reviews 4641 reads
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26 / 67

My take about the quintessentially American obsession over race is ...

it's a cultural issue, not a skin-color issue. As Singleton has rightly pointed out, "ethnicity" is a scientifically vague concept in the first place, and the DNA connections among human populations are much closer than our initial visual judgments might make us assume.

So, when we say, "Is a Black man a better lover," what we really mean, even if we're in denial about it, is, "Do lower-class working men who have traditionally been oppressed make up for it in the sack when they get together with boss-man's wife?" We mistakenly think it's a racial question, since so often "lower-class" or "slave", or "owner" or "boss-man" is accompanied by a specific skin color.

Likewise for the Latin thing. There is no "latin" race. Lighter-skinned Spanish-speaking Cubans who live in Miami would (many of them, at least) be disgusted to be considered as ethnically related to a dark-skinned Domenicana or Puertoriquena. The Cubans claim more "pure" Spanish ancestry -- not that they're necessarily accurate about that, but it just makes a clear point that nobody knows what you mean by ANY racial designation.

"Asian"? Is that the ones who hate Koreans, or is that the Koreans themselves, or is it both? Because, you know, to a Japanese or a Chinese person, the Koreans have traditionally looked ridiculously "wrong" for centuries -- "the Jews of the Orient" -- oops, now that's not PC any more, "the Jews of the Pacific Rim" ...

If you want to know about performance, or enjoyability, or endowment, or whatever, you're going to have to think much more clearly about which groups you're asking about. Do you want to know about rhythm and hip-moving skill? Then you're asking about cultural upbringing among rhythmic dance moves. Do you want to know about dick size? Then you're asking about specific sub-groups, much smaller than what you would call a "race", since some blacks are generally much less well endowed than some whites, or asians, or whatnot. Do you want to know about stinginess, penny-pinching, or a miserly and overly businesslike attitude? Then you're asking about cultural attitudes toward money, and probably the social class of the individual in question.

Race doesn't fit any more. It never really did, and now less so than ever before. Thank goodness.

Nevertheless, it's interesting to note, that many providers have a little disclaimer on their websites that they "prefer white men" or "prefer not to see Asian or Black men" or whatever. I think what the providers generally mean, poor mislead dears, is that they prefer not to see UNATTRACTIVE or LOWER-CLASS men, or men who will treat them in a lower-class manner, and they still relate those issues with race. It's a sort of sensible, but I think mistaken, connection to draw; she'd probably be very happy with a certain black millionaire I know, for example, and very unhappy with Jethro my inbred cousin (and nephew).


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book_guy 14 Reviews 2708 reads
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CLASS is foremost in their minds. Plenty of dumb-as-fuck white people thought OJ didn't do it and were glad their football hero got off scott free; plenty of educated blacks thought he did, and were embarrassed to be asked about it as though they should somehow have an interest in a stranger who happens to have a minor physical similarity to them.

garrett1142 24 Reviews 3538 reads
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easyb 8 Reviews 3850 reads
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Let's forget this as a racial issue for a moment and think about it as a cultural – being black, white or yellow doesn’t IMHO make you better at sex, art, business or anything else. However how we are raised, what culture we’re from can make a difference.  I can’t say I’ve sampled everything I want to (really want to get to the Baltic or Russia for instance) but if I HAD to choose I’d have to pick someone from an Asia culture.  Without ANY sex a visit to a top Tokyo Geisha club or a Beijing hostess karaoke club is for me a wonderful experience that is just not available in the west.   Call me a pig but this is experience beyond the beyond and over the top.  When a provider from this background adds FS to the mix it’s manna from heaven.  Gotta go and come up with another reason for my company to fly me to Asia…

Vicki Nicole 4212 reads
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30 / 67

umm I'm black and i did not cheer when OJ got away with murder
and I also think Michael Jackson is a pedophile

Vicki Nicole 4808 reads
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posted twice so i deleted it

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Melanie Love See my TER Reviews 4200 reads
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I didn't cheer for O.J. either. Infact, I remember when that event went down, and the people that I had spoken with (other black people), felt the same way, that he was guilty. I still think he is guilty. I also feel that Michael Jackson is guilty of being a pedophile.

So, Adam...please don't lump us all in one group, and think that we all feel the same way, for we don't. I make decisions for myself.

Mel

Vicki Nicole 3995 reads
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well my friends all tell me I'm a traitor to my race because I have some weird opinions on these things.

When I was a waitress 8 out of 10 black people I waited on left a terrible tip (usually $2) no matter how high the bill or how nice and sweet and efficient the service and they always ran me all over the dam restaraunt.

Gay men (of all races) left the best tips 9 out of 10 times.

All other races it varied you could never really tell what kind of tip you'd get but usually if you know you gave good sevice they would leave a decent tip. Alot of time it depended on what section of the coutnry they were from.

Anyway I mention that cause that is where I developed my views on servicing different races before i became a providor.I prefer to service white and asian men for the main reason that they are who I'm attracted to and they make me feel special and like a queen. Plus I do believe that sterotype about black men with big coc*&, I know, I know it's stupid but waaay back in the day when I use to date black men, they would hurt me with those things maaaaan.
But as you can see I have my own psychological issues and baggage though.
:-)

White: 9
African American: I haven't been with one in a few years and that was before i began providor work, they were clean though
Asian: Never had one
Latino: 7
Native American: Never had one
French: Not sure if I've had one
German: Not sure if I've had one
Italian: 7
English: Not sure if I've had one
Russian: Not sure if I've had one
Middle Eastern: 4

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xenopus 25 Reviews 4118 reads
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you are as closely related to someone who is 'of another race' halfway around the world than, let's say, 2 chimps from the same part of Africa or even the same tribe.  The human 'family' is indeed very small and all this mitochondrial business boils down to is that we all have the same great-great-great-great.....grandmother!.

Having spent most of my life in various 'melting pot' cities here in the US, I gotta tell you, some of the most fantastic looking women I have seen are part Chinese, part black, or part Spanish, part German...you get the picture.  SO three cheers for mixing those genes!

Vicki Nicole 3210 reads
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well get started maaan

Vicki Nicole 4631 reads
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I have to read that again, that was a spactacular synopsis or this racial subject

jaejae 18 Reviews 5041 reads
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Please explain #8 in your original response to the poll?

A racist or a bigot or a member of the KKK? Arian brotherhood perhaps?

Nadia_Imani 3618 reads
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I'm of East Indian origin.

The most problems i've had with unreliability and damn right rudeness is with other East Indian & Pakistani men - especially those under 30.

I rarely have a problem with other nationalities, unless they're under 30..

I've seen lots of men under 30 who've been fine, but on the whole, the main problems are with men under that age.

Nadia x

llcar 10 Reviews 3572 reads
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and having read some of his other posts believe he may be the Grandmaster himself (of the Southern European Chapter).

PirateGuideon 72 Reviews 3954 reads
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As an Italian I look at myself in the mirror and I see a white person, lol





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adam46 4153 reads
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Some guy asks a question and I answer it honestly, part of that
answer being that I don't see black escorts, and automatically
this makes me the Grand Dragon of the KKK???!!! Funny, but I
don't remember making any disparaging remarks about anyone. In
fact, you are the one doing this calling me a KKK member just
because I don't agree with your way of thinking.

This is the same as me asking if you and "jae-jae" are members
of the communist party. Are you?

Melanie Love See my TER Reviews 3709 reads
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For one thing, I was giving my feelings on this type of post. Just to let you know about my political affiliations: I am more middle of the road, than either Democratic and Republican. There are issues on both sides, that I do believe in. But there you are assuming, because of my race, that I tend to lean towards a certain way. My view that I had posted above, have been from my experiences, and my feelings, as a human being. But I know that I cannot speak for everyone, and I also mentioned that I was probably a small minority on the board, who felt this way. Yes, I am not ashamed, and actually, I find myself proud to say that I find beauty in all races. I would date outside my race (which I have for 11 years with a Caucasian man), regardless of what anyone said. But, I also love and have dated within my own race (handsome ebony man..meow), as well. To me, sex does not discriminate, when someone is looking to book an appt. with me.  Also, love is colorblind, when I date in the civilian world.  Do I profile by race when it comes to sex? Is one race better than the other?  Did I find out anything that SETS A DIFFERENCE (in which the initial poster is asking what the differences are) between any races?  Hell no. My answer is: Nope. Because when it comes down to it, some men can phuck like crazy, and some men well...just don't know how to phuck LOL They all come in every race.


Mel ;)

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jaejae 18 Reviews 4300 reads
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I just need someone to help with the expenses. And of course I'll need a private jet with on call pilots, a personal assistant, a limo with driver in each city and while in the more remote and dangerous sections of the world, a lightly armed band of mercenaries should work just fine. Preferrably all female.

And I'll research research research, until I can research no longer.

Vicki Nicole 4518 reads
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adam46 4486 reads
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I did not know your race when responding with the "cop out"
post so that is not what I was reacting to. Rather, it was
the "burning mad" quote that for some reason conjured up
in me the vision of an seething "PC" warrior like Barbara Boxer,
Nancy Pelosi, or Hillary. Being "Anti-PC" myself, I just
couldn't resist.

Like I said in previous posts in this thread, I realize the my right wing viewpoints are the minority on this site, but I am
still quite shocked how people here are so intolerant of
a differing opinion.

book_guy 14 Reviews 3547 reads
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I agree that the "burning mad" post sounded rather like a knee-jerk PC response. It sounded that way to me, too, and I'm glad that the overt categorization and instantaneous limbic response was not credited as highly as the author wanted it to be.

You'll see lower down in this thread ("My take") that I side very much against racial categorization. But I take that side out of what I think is intelligent reasons, not PC knee-jerk emotional responses. In fact, I object to PC-isms for the same reason I object to (most) racial stereotyping -- it's not thought through carefully. There are some sensible arguments for categorizing by race in some circumstances, just as there sensible arguments against it.

So, I agree, the PC's will out ...

Melanie Love See my TER Reviews 3628 reads
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The initial poster wanted my view (I am assuming, for he put it up to question about rating races), and I gave it ;) I just don't believe in it. I mean, how does one rate a race??? lol Why is one race better than the other? The last that I remembered, we all bled the same blood. Assholes come in every shape and color, the last I remembered.  I would think you would rate the individual person, not the race on his/her performance. Maybe I am the minority for not being into "race profiling". I hate to think that all my thoughts that I have put into every post is considered: a "knee-jerk" pc response. Yikes.. LOL ;) I wonder if I should be on a "Knee-Jerk" pc half hour show or something LOL ;)

Mel ;)



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jaejae 18 Reviews 3520 reads
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If me despising ALL politicians equally makes me a "leftie", then that's fine. My views are actually very middle of the road.

Although I do get a big kick about the hypocrit pill popper justifying his addiction because they were legal prescription drugs. LOL

And I suppose, that by me inferring you are a racist, bigot because you exclude some women due to the color of their skin, was not being the type of you person that you want me to be.
 After all, I exclude certain women because they use pictures of someone else, or, after writing to them we discover that we wouldn't have a good time together.

So, I'm a bigot in that sense of the word also.

As far as the KKK and Aryan  remark I was off base. You wouldn't see anyone except a white woman if that were the case, sorry.

singleton 5 Reviews 2664 reads
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i was just stating recent scientific findings that cast some doubt on racial categorization, not spouting personal opinion

and i didn't mention anything about racial "superiority" ... just differences ... YOU were the one that dragged Mengele into all this

as for Judge Moore, feel free to call me a left-wing bigot but i would still categorize him as a chimp!  LOL



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jetfishes 58 Reviews 3100 reads
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But cute,  honestly I like women of all shades and shapes.

Melanie Love See my TER Reviews 3776 reads
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HarryLime 10 Reviews 4436 reads
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It's ethnicity.  Ethnicity and race are two different concepts.  People seem to immediatly confuse them in their heads.  There is no such thing as the english race or the russian race.

A pretty standard experiement in social sciences shows that people, in general, are more comfortable with others who have similar backgrounds.  I would be willing to bet that a study here would show this is the most significant factor here too.

adam46 4141 reads
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I don't believe a person is a racist or bigot because they
choose to leave another group of people alone. Especially
when this involves physical attraction to another. If you're
not physically attracted to someone, why would you pay to
have sex with her?

Do you find Eskimo women attractive? Do you have sex with
Eskimo escorts? If the answer is no to both questions, then by
your standards I guess you are a racist and a bigot.

I do appreciate your apology concerning KKK and AB, though.

llcar 10 Reviews 4642 reads
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Sorry, i thought if the hood fits ?  I guess it's a bit too tight.  

Anyways Senator, I am a member of the community party - I try to ignore the A-holes (I don't go with inconsiderate/racist/up-ity/sell-out F's) and focus on the people that realize we are all people and act accordingly.  

Actually, I'm glad you are so blatant with your views.  It is the closet racists that are so dangerous.

Just responding honestly.



adam46 3191 reads
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I guess because when I respondend to your post, I was already
dealing with some of the responses I had gotten to the "cop
out" post below.

When I saw the scientific terminology regarding genetics of
Whites & Pacific Islanders, I assumed this was your way of saying "no one should talk about race, especially if they are white". I was wrong to assume this.

Anyway, you are obviously free to call Judge Moore whatever
you like, the same way I am free to admire his stance.

adam46 3520 reads
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Except the part about accepting the apology. At least he
had the decency to make a half-hearted one.

As for you, anyone who thinks a person is a racist beacuse
he/she chooses to leave another group of people alone is,
to use your terminology, an A-Hole.

As far as you disliking other messages I have posted, the
only one that comes to mind is the one where I defended
President Reagan and gave my thoughts as to why FDR and LBJ
ruined America. Do you realize that about 60% of the American
public would agree with most of what I said in that post? I guess
we are all just a bunch of hood wearing cross burners, aren't
we?

PirateGuideon 72 Reviews 5699 reads
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Yes, but the origial poster wrote White at the top of the list, as if only Americans "white" are considered white, that is race not ethnicity.

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sedonasandiego See my TER Reviews 2954 reads
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And I concur. As one of many sisters, all of us single moms, we've all worked the restaurant industry at one point in our lives, myself included (10 years).
In comparing notes, we all agreed, without a doubt. Black people were the worst tippers; gays almost always tipped well.
Just as we could be place bets that black people were sure to order their meat WELL DONE!! (emphatically stated!).
Who knows how or why these things get started but it just points to cultural upbringing.

Earlier this year I was in Texas, for the first time. We were in a restaurant and I looked at the bill to calculate the usual 20%, and he pointed out (he's a Texan) that in Texas you only left change, or maybe a dollar, but it wasn't any percentage of the bill - just a token. I was quite surprised. I thought tipping a percentage was customary nationwide.

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Melanie Love See my TER Reviews 4431 reads
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I order my meat medium rare (can't stand well cooked steak), and I actually over tip, for my sister use to be a waitress, and I knew what she went through, when she was younger. I just hate that analogy that because you are black, you have to be this:

1. From the "Ghetto" (I came from an upper middle class home from New Jersey)
2. Be un-educated/ school of hard knocks (I went to all Wellesley Schools/ one of the best school systems in Massachusetts)
3. Order your steak well cooked (My steaks have to be medium rare or they do go back, if too well done)
4. Be a lousy tipper (I always tip more than what is required)

What I am saying is don't put too much stock into "racial profiling", for sometimes you may be highly surprised by what you find out;)


Mel ;)

damiendc 3008 reads
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To say that Black people do not tip well is a BOLD statement.  In a prior life I owned and operated a club/lounge and I hired perky college waitresses, most of them white suburban ladies due to my location.  One day two complained because the clientele (read Black) was leaving smaller tips.  I watched the waitresses in action and they treated the black customers (all) of them as if they were not going to get a tip, therefore their service suffered, and no tips were left.  Sterotypes are bad in all regards.  I counseled the ladies and coached them on treating everyone with the same intensity, and they started to recive equal tips from everyone.  We all have preferences and I respect anyone that wears their prejudice on their chest.  But go all out with it and do not fake as if you are someone who loves all people regardless of race.  It should be a rule that providers put their preferences on their websites and ads.  I do not want to be involved with anyone that does not want to be with me because I have beautiful naturally dark skin.  Check yourself when you generalize and sterotype, especially when that same color stares right back at you.

On a side note, I am glad when media types/Politicians/celebs, etc. screw up and reveal their true hidden bigoted beliefs for the world to see.  I am ANGRY when they apologize for that is a sign of a WEAK MAN!  That was geared towards the John Rockers, Fuzzy Zoeller's, and Rush Limbaugh's of the world.

book_guy 14 Reviews 3863 reads
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My point wasn't that you don't have a right to your opinion. To put it tersely, my point was that you didn't defend your opinion intelligently, you merely expressed it emotionally. The emotionally irrational nature of it suggested to me (and this is obviously just supposition on my part) that it was motivated more by political correctness than by intelligent thought. You've in fact done the same, again, by merely offering rhetorical questions rather than valid proof of your argument. So I still think you're being PC. In fact, I AGREE with you about opposing race-profiling -- something you can't tell, simply because you assume that by differing with one part of your statements, I differ with all. Not all debate is opposition, sweetheart. If you look further down, you'll see under "My take" my own version of your opinion, expressed rationally rather than politically correctly.

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Vicki Nicole 3325 reads
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personally I do wear my stereotypes on my chest, anyone who is a friend of mind knows my views
and i have it stated very clearly on my website in my bio what my preferences are
and yes I get alot of flak for it specifically from black men but it doesn't change the way I feel
if someone wants to go out of their way to prove me wrong I welcome it but i'm not going out of my way

call it self hate, sterotypes, whatever, I don't care, most people live their life according to their experiences

and yes saying that black people don't tip well IS a bold statement
but it was a statement made from my experience and I said specifically 8 out of 10 meaning there was a small percentage that tipped prety wee.
I treated all the guest who came to my tables equally. On some days going out of my way to be sweeter than usual.

funtime69 6 Reviews 3894 reads
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Please explain #8 in your original response to the poll?

A racist or a bigot or a member of the KKK? Arian brotherhood perhaps




It is spelled Aryan...
If you are going to bring passive aggresive crap into this like wanting him to explain #8, at least spell ARYAN correctly...
my take is that the PC people are the ones acting like "racists" not Adam who is simply saying he doesn't sleep with blacks..

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