Seems to be a lot of TER hate on twitter lately from ladies that seem to think TER is the enemy because of "descriptively vulgar" reviews.  They are rejoicing that they think TER appears to be dying.  These ladies seem to think that TER was a negative for them and the reviews makes them feel bad.

 
Some poor guy tried to make the case that before he found TER, he thought all those escort websites were fake.  How are the customers supposed to know who is real and who is fake without the reviews, he asks.  Of course the ladies went mental on the guy saying that he's part of the problem.

 
So my question is this:  Is TER a negative for the providers?

always has been a good client pool.  My #1

in all these years...

Without review sites it’s back to hit or miss. And how do you find them on twitter? Search escorts? That will change soon. And suggestive posts will be filtered for content and deleted. Any group with Escort name will be closed.  

So tell me, how did you find these TER haters? Some complaining likely still have reviews and haven’t delisted themselves, wonder why?

I've been here since 2008 because I've met so many wonderful men and women here.  It's been great for checking out ladies and gentlemen though reviews and learning people's personalities. It just makes my screening easier really too.  
I obviously still don't know ALL the rules I guess though lol but it has been really good for me 😎
XOXO
TL

They are insignificant.

I personally think they don’t like ter because of instances where they must have a bad day and wasn’t having it with a client and that client writes a bad review about them JUST for that one time which can have a big affect on them or a client who’s petty writes a fake review because she declined him or made him mad in some type of way lol. I think if anything TER would the best thing because reviews make everything haha and the ads board when it was up was clutch for the ladies and clients alike. If it wasn’t for reviews I highly doubt I would have met h ladies I have met, like if I showed up expecting GFE and she does CBJ I’d be disappointed so I think that’s why reviews are important because no one wants to be disappointed

A lot of ladies I know, or knew, hate TER, but think it's a necessary evil. They don't trust it and don't treat them the same way the guys are treated. I can dig cuz if it wasn't for the ladies this wouldn't exist.  

There's few places where you can read reviews and see ads. TER doesn't have the market on it.  

As a matter of fact, on one site, I have reviews that ladies did of me. I think it's only fair.  

Any of you old, fat, ugly fucks that can't get laid unless you pay wanna debate this I'll hang out for a while.....

TER has been nothing but positive for my business.  Even if gents do not post a review I have still received many clients just from reading my board posts.  

THANK YOU!!!!

XOXO
Scarlet

There are only 3 reasons why providers leave TER:

1. Retirement
2. Privacy/safety
3. Bad reviews

TER is only a negative for providers if there is something negative about the provider.

I have always been interested in only 3 things:

1) Does the lady match the pictures/is she the same person?

2) Is it BBBJ, or CBJ?

3) Does she host a spot and is it in a decent neighborhood/is it clean?

What do I care how many O’s you had? Do I really need a play by play description what you two did? That she moned or was loud? Do I have to read these ridiculous terms used to describe your dick? Mr winky? Your soldier? Your captain? How is any of that relevant to me? Moving forward, is it such a bad thing if the way we communicate to each other now regarding a woman’s professional legitimacy is in such a way that omits the long and detailed sentences describing the two of you actually having sex?

I saw the pictures, I get it! She’s hot! I wanna do it too! Just tell me it’s actually her LOL. Tell me if she was a nice person or if you didn’t click. I’m being facetious and I realize there is more to it for many, but for the majority looking for a GFE it’s all pretty much the same. I get it LOL. Of course some women hate TER, I’ve read guys reviews blasting women for being large when her profile described her accurately. Some men can’t seem to say they were not getting on well together with tact and say shit that’s insulting, because they can hide behind a keyboard without any fear of reproach.  

I agree with a lot of what’s being echoed on other threads by some providers...they were kicked off other sites a long time ago for breaking the terms of the site... they were careless. I remember when women used to put diamonds and roses as a suggestive way to imply their rates. Now rates a clearly displayed and attached to specific acts. Going back to vanilla pictures, making subtle suggestions as opposed to “you can !@$% my ass for an extra $100 isn’t the end of the world. It was out of control if you ask me and begged to get attention...and it got it.

It's been nothing but helpful to me. When I first started as a provider, I was wondering if I should be independent or work with an agency. I got amazing advice on here and started as an independent provider. Since then I've met such great guys and it's replaced my need to hook up with randos at bars to satisfy my needs.

When guys meet me, they've read my reviews so they have an idea of what I'm into and what to expect. I'm too shy to always mention that I like being spanked and having my hair pulled. Or that I'm a little submissive or that I can come from having my nipples touched. Reviews help to set expectations and help to prepare fir the date in my opinion.

I disagree, that's a pretty broad statement. There are just humans who don't think like you do. There are plenty of ladies who market themselves to mongers who aren't as closed minded as that last comment and don't want to be associated with men who think and talk like that.  
It's a lot about personality as it is about content.  
So much variation of providers and mongers

TER has been my livelihood for a few years now. I’m enraged that there are pros cheering on the demise of any website. This is going to seriously affect many of us (myself included). Whatever their opinion, they shouldn’t be celebrating.

WHY do they hate TER? A lot of folks (I've heard the complaint from tons of clients too) is that the reviews are required to be disgustingly graphic. And the rating system is unfair and/or dehumanizing. A lot of pros who previously relied on the site also turned after receiving obviously fake reviews that weren’t removed.

Not saying I agree with these things, but I do understand where they’re coming from. But reveling while so many of my friends and I spent the past 48 hours in a constant panic attack? Fucked up.

You certainly have to have thick skin to be on here... but I do not think for the most part that its "coercive" like most of the people you mentioned are saying.  In my opinion, TER would only seem coercive to someone who wishes to maintain a pristine image.  This isn't realistic because while there are some assholes out there, not everyone is going to be happy with you or your services because not everyone has the same preferences or expectations.  I think as long as you are an ethical provider and you show accurate and up to date pics then an occasional bad review isn't going to hurt you.  For me personally some reviews hurt my feelings no doubt, but they weren't detrimental to my career.

And of course  Business ..Moolah  from the reviews,  So Alls Good Thing💃👄🙋‍♀️

Life will never be perfect, accept the bad, appreciate the good, or surrender to a miserable being. Which path will you travel?  

For you, it’s the path that makes you happiest, not the one that makes you reflect on the bad days.

I love allstar. When the titanic is going down, he still make perfectly clear the bbbj survives. lmao.

Allstar is the epitome of exactly why everything will literally be ok.

xoxo

TER has made the hobby a more safe environment for me. But I have seen girls get fake reviews and TER did not remove them or where being very slow about it. But I also have went to providers with good reviews that should have never received them in my opinion. So I have got to a point I accept couple bad reviews and look at the overall  picture. It may not be perfect but it sure does help and I believe it makes it safer for all of use.

I have seen two things for sure that would alienate me as a provider:

1. Lack of action on fake reviews.  There seems to be a bias towards letting fake reviews stand.  Even ones that are clearly intended to hurt a providers business.  If I was a provider and that happened to me, I would be pissed too.

 
2. Tolerance of women-hating misogynistic posts and threads.  Some of the crap that is allowed to be posted here is ridiculous.  Stuff that is in clear violation of posting guidelines.  I took action a couple of times, by reporting what I was seeing, and essentially got an FU.  

 
So, I can see why a lot of women see TER as a hostile environment. Some percentage will go extreme in their reaction.

 
With all of that said, I would not be in this hobby without TER, since it helped me understand what I was getting into.  Meaning that a serious amount of cash, has left my bank account, and ended up in provider bank accounts that I would never have met without TER.  

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If they aren’t willing to adapt to the new law and it blatantly now is incriminating evidence against us why wouldn’t we delist? This is my dilemma.  I think if you have a good social media presence you at least can be assured that the lady is legit.  

Taking it day by day but I’ve reached out to the admins here and I’ve made some pretty good suggestions on how we can bring back the regional daily photo boards and they don’t seem to care. So what’s next for this lady....Only time will tell.

For now let’s Swing!

Xxx
Elle Vegas the Sexy Swinger

And they are still insignificant. They keep saying TER is dying and TER has only grown bigger since then.

Been great for me, so no hate here.

but it would be good if someone could list the names of  these  ladies .....I can understand their  problem, but that's not very smart on their part to be vindictive.  Reviews are the  principal decider as to whom a guy dates - well, for me anyway.

I had no interest in twitter when I could simply read TER ads.

The world is always changing and I don't mean global warming.

You want a blacklist of people who have issues with TER? Scratching my head.  If they’ve got a real big issue with TER, they are probably delisted, and you wouldn’t be interested in seeing them anyway.  And if you don’t use social media as a part of your experience in the hobbying world, it’s even less likely you would ever cross paths with one of those providers.

Finally, what’s the real point of such a hypothetical list anyway?  I mean, has the question “On a scale of 1-10, how much do you love TER?” ever factored into any hobbyists decision to see or not see a provider???

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Nowadays, at least.  

However I have heard stories of women who never even post on the boards get slandered, or just get posts about them where they can never be enough.

I have had a couple of people try to submit reviews, with high scores, but they didn't want to divulge on every dirty detail, and didn't like that they couldn't give me a 10. So they retracted and didn't resubmit. I think some clients are not comfortable sharing every single detail, so I think even for some clients it feels degrading to kiss and tell, and it also feels degrading that because they didn't bang somebody up the ass, they can't give somebody a 10. Or because they didn't want to french kiss, or kiss at all, they have to give  a mediocre score on poerformance.  

It's not just coming from providers, of course that's who most people see talking about it, but in private, I hear complaints from guys on the scoring system and how weird it feels to share private details to the degree that they are required in order to submit a review.

In my case, this is where I learned how to do it right, and how to get in contact with reputable providers who know what they're talking about. I wouldn't be where I am today if it weren't for the discussion forums. On the other hand, with good comes some dismay. I do know in the past I have been bullied or publicly reprimanded for not being enough for someone. Or for saying no.

Also, before I learned how to determine whether or not I had chemistry with a client before seeing them, I noticed they would be disappointed with something or the other even though both then and now I was very meticulous about making sure I was as accurate as possible. Sometimes you will just never be enough, but sometimes it is brought public and it can be very humiliating for some, especially if they are really putting their all into this business.

Be it reviews or discussion boards, one of the things that is seen publicly by a lot of providers and clients alike on some boards is a lot of misogyny. It's not all misogyny. But some of these discussions are on the front lines, and that's going to give an impression.

Before the ad boards went down, if I were visiting a specific City, I would look at the discussion board first. If it was a bunch of Provider bashing, I would skip the ter ad before that tour. I started doing that and it eliminated a lot of problems.

I have put ads up way in the past, and posted on boards in areas I was going to visit and got involved in the discussion. I had some dude come over to my board, Chicago, and rip me to sheds.

I love the Chicago Board, they all stood up for me every time. But at the same time, to go on there and read that crap just isn't any fun. Online bullying is just bad.

It happens in reviews all the time. I don't get it very much thank God, and I don't get publicly humiliated on the boards much anymore, thank God, but I'm going to say something. Twitter, it is rough out there. And it gets real nasty. I think it's just the internet in general. But there are some nasty, nasty people on Twitter who aren't involved in this industry but go after ladies of the industry.

The reviewing system scores has pissed a lot of people off, and I think that was the final decision for a lot of providers to leave the site. When I was off, new enquiries went down, good thing I had a nice saving and wonderful regulars. I did miss the community, because you guys are the first people I came to know in this industry, and got me out of a lot of trouble.

Some of the people here really helped me a lot when it came to getting on my feet and being safe and happy in this business. I even had somebody that I won't disclose, who complains about rates here, but in person was one who introduced me to some very level-headed women, and also even encouraged me to raise my rates. So you don't see everything on these boards.

All I know is my ass was saved, and it was more because of the community than because of the reviews. At the same time, I do not post as much as I used to because after a while, the trolls do come out and start saying some things that are pretty hurtful and stressful. So it gets tiring sometimes, I just try to kind of jump on, say my words, and jump off.

From what i see, I think it would help a lot if the scores weren't based on Services provided, but whether the two together were happy with their time together. Whether the client was happy that his choice was accurately portrayed, and gave them a wonderful time.  

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Is the fck ter website “still coming soon?” Asking for a friend.

I got alot of great clients from here. Now that the ad board is gone, I’ve thought about joining twitter but not even sure I want to. I hope TER allows us to atleast post photos soon

I agree with both of you.

It depends on each individual the reason why

Sometimes reviewers are overly critical or try to use a review for leverage in getting more.

Sometimes girls were not on their game and got reviewed as such. It affects our business.

No one really likes being judged in bad light. It's also hard to be great if you truly didn't click with the guy.

There are plenty of great guys. There are also pigs that try to treat us like a blowup doll.

I'm lucky that I rarely meet anyone but nice people, as most disrespectful guys show themselves prior to appointment. I encourage reviews and I post here. I'm fine with ter.  

All that matters to me is the reviews are honest.

I have met awesome gents from TER. My first review was from someone very popular unbeknownst to me, and it has been a whirlwind and a pleasure ever since. It will be 3 years next month, so luckily I have some clientele.

I've admired the professional women in this business that have the thick skin to look beyond the negative reviews and continue to offer this service.  I often think about how difficult it must be for them to meet someone unknown for the first time and then offer up the most intimate part of themselves.  Unlike the provider, we at least have pictures and narratives to go on before that door opens.

That said, TER needs to do a better job of rooting out those false reviews and/or misogynistic posts.  The world has way too much hate; and this profession and its providers, which by their action help mitigate that awful human element and take us away from the general negativity of the world, need protection from those few individuals.

As CdnBrman said, I too wouldn't be in this hobby without TER.  I have limited resources and no time for hit or miss arrangements.  Scanning the reviews, I find it easy to see which providers offer me what I'm looking for based on what I'm willing to pay, and which providers consistently fail to provide the service I and others desire.  It's easy too ignore one or two negative reviews which stand out as inconsistent from what the majority of others have said.  Everyone has a bad day, and how can all providers click with all clients?  Then, again, when a provider consistently has bad reviews, perhaps it's time for her to consider changes in what she is doing or find a new profession.  

TER is not perfect.  But it seems to provide a necessary service that ultimately promotes the profession.

Thank you Lexi 😘

Like anything in life you have to weigh the pros and cons. What works for one person may not necessarily work for another and TER isn't the only board that gets hate on Twitter there are others that get hate too but TER is by far the biggest board out there so obviously they'll get the brunt of it. I've had fake reviews written about me some were removed some weren't. I've met some of the best hobbyists and some of the worst but that's not on TER that's on the person lol. Yes reviews help both parties but then again a lot of people write fake reviews because they don't want to pay the monthly membership so to maintain their vip status some people scam the system or an agency that you leave will have their guys write fake reviews so you don't do well as an Indy yes that's happened to me but again not TER's fault. In this environment you have to do your homework and not just rely on boards and reviews, I tend to check out posts to see if I'll mesh with the person or if the hobbyist is white listed how often how long ago etc.  
Bottom line is nothing is perfect someone will always have a problem with something and you can't please everyone so as long as the site serves the purpose it was destined to then the site has done it's job imho.

If you want to know who these twitter twats are, the majority of them are the ones with ads on the Er--- site ( can't name the name b/c its against guidelines but you can figure that that E---ad site is for escorts ) .  They are the ones who also think that somehow they are worth 4 figures for a hour as well.

Of course those gps twats hate reviews,  if just one client have a bad time or she fails in expectation, their whole business can stop.  So its best to tell a guy who spend 4 figures if you felt let down, too bad for you.  Reviews are a standard that makes someone stand out to you in terms of services, if someone is un-review they can do whatever or whatever NOT to you, you have no expectation and thus you won;t know what her real potential or no potential are.

Just a note if you are a guy who are paying just for "companionship" and would spend 4 figures just for that expectation you are a pathetic loser, go find a therapist she would be cheaper and you can talk for hours.  If she is charging you 4 figures you better get the sun and the moon.

Those twitter twats are not other girls "friends" as much as they claim, they are more than happy to see TER closed down and telling girls "be happy for change" while speaking from their high horse.  Those twats are everyone's enemy.  

 
The only time you shouldn't post a review is if you are paid a non-disclosure agreement, if a escort ain't paying me to stay quite, I sure won't.  There is only a limit to what I'm paying for and I'm not paying to be your bitch as well.  

Wow!  A lot of pent up rage there...  
But to put things in perspective, Twitter and TER are FAR from mutually exclusive. Many providers who are active on Social Media and listed here.  So while you write “Twitter Twats”, I think what you could have stated more accurately was “Twats Who Make Me Really, Really Super Angry”.

to keep in touch and see updates to my cam show times and escort availablity

Seems limiting. How will anyone know you’re on twitter? Word of mouth? How will someone be able to consider you as someone they would have fun with for what there paying?  

While those that hate TER and it’s reviewing shortcomings I’m guessing there business increased and benefited from reviews boards and ads they could place.

Take that away and what remains? How would I find you? Then say I stumble across you, how do I know you’re worth seeing for what I’m paying?

Ask any provider that predates the Internet opportunity and how it was back then. Was it getting as much an opportunity and abundance of clients as it is now? Unless there were SW, and even those, it was tough times finding and building a client base.

While back then they could pay for ads in news papers and the yellow book, this law applies to that platform as well. Then see how many managed without and how they did. Word of mouth.  

I would panic, I don’t think this law will hold up in court. It does a runaround on 1st and 4th amendment rights, let alone overrides regulation in place that tries to protect those investments in the Internet open speech. Stifles them and will not help one bit those it was created for, traffic and exploited victims but make it harder to find them.

Although it seems limiting, some providers have found that they are able to thrive without TER.  You mentioned word of mouth, and that is what essentially Twitter does for providers.  If you fancy a particular provider, through Twitter you can see who what other providers she follows, so it’s bascially networking.  They also can post links to their websites and TER reviews. One advantage that Twitter provides over TER is that it gives the provider to share info/news/thoughts with her followers on a real-time basis. It’s marketing that fosters a personal connection.  

In marketing, it’s important to put your effort where your market is.  As more and more millennial and GenY men age into the hobbyist demo, it’s important that providers are taking advantage of the outreach opportunities on the Social Media platforms (Instagram/Twitter/Snapchat/et al) that those guys are using on a daily, if not constant, basis.

A broad reading of the bill would seem to threaten even Twitter -- depending on the content.  Obviously Twitter is going to support more than 5 people with such inclinations -- so they don't have the "individual provider" out..   They can't just let objectionable content sit unmolested, they'll have to police it, since ignorance is no longer an excuse.

Twitter stuff will have to be pretty vanilla, and so will any other domestic website.

I can see it the way you explain. But if this law goes forward twitter may filter out content or delete account for violating TOS, then what?

It’s really hard to get banned from Twitter.  Usually takes multiple blatant violations of the TOS, and they let you know what the transgression was.  It seems that providers are already taking steps to be safe about it.  Like I said, it’s just another tool in the box.  But used wisely, it can be a very effective one.

I agree

I have no clue how to search Twitter unless I get a link from someone's TER Profile or a TER post.  
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If Twitter was just a morass of sexy and pretty pics and suggestive banter, I would bet that 90% of the propositions would go to the wrong Twitterbabes, those who don't Provide, don't know what it means or that it exists and WOULD BE ENRAGED BY THE HARASSMENT.  So much so, that the non-Provider Twitterbabes would complain to Twitter and others to, "Please clean up Twitter and remove the Twitter accounts of ladies who are agreeable to provide companionship services.  I don't want to be propositioned just because I posted bikini pics or party pics."
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Without TER or some other lead-generating service or filter mechanism, you will be hoist by your own petard by mixing in to a FOSTA SESTA neutralized Twitter presence.  The non-Provider Twitterbabes will demand that you be banned.  

TER has been nothing but phenomenal in advancing my personal and financial endeavors in the industry.  Only two critiques:  1) Removing FAKE reviews challenging to the degree of appearing accusatory toward providers of dishonest requests , and 2) the achievement of scores is dependent upon the performance of specific sexual acts while fees are visible to paying members...the very definition of prostitution.  

In lieu of recent legislative changes in the U.S., I requested a "Tour Board" with only city and date info without text be made available to US Citizens, which seems incredibly less visibly disparaging and incriminating in terms of soliciting and promoting prostitution.  Additionally, I requested a change to the current scoring system to "Looks" and "Overall Performance," which I would change to "Overall Experience."  It is illogical to keep a scoring system by which sexual acts derive scores and not a board of city and date only.  Most importantly, studies show (and my personal diagnoses) is that anal sex causes irreparable damage to women.  Those like me who have sought top scores to remain competitive have sacrificed our bodies to surgeries now necessary to regain normal human functioning. How the site can continue to maintain the scoring system is beyond my comprehension in light of changes in the law now and other less aggressive sites jumping ship.  Now would have been the perfect time to show support to the ladies with this level of utmost respect and genuine support for our well-being.

I suspect those who disparage TER are those that could not get a fake review removed or received less than they felt they deserved.  Alternatively, they may view the scoring system as derogatory and exploitative to women.  

Nonetheless, I am indebted to the forum for providing us a safer means to conducting business than we would otherwise have.  Thanks, folks.

xoxo
Allura

Twitter probably is a little intimidating for the older hobbyist, but the more you use Twitter, the better it works for you.  Even if you don’t feel adept at searching, it’s quite easy to network once you get started. Once you find a provider, just check out who else she follows, and who follows her.  Just check out what other girls one of her admirers is following, and you’ve gain entry to the world of provider Twitter.

And unless you directly proposition a complete stranger on Twitter, there is absolutely no risk of getting banned.  If you reach out to a civvie with an introduction of interest, and she thinks you’re a creep, she simply blocks you and that’s the end of it.  Much of it is self-policed though, so don’t be surprised if some knucklehead who won’t take no for an answer gets outed. Any user can create a list of other users. So if a creep was bothering a girl, she could put him on a ‘creeps who bother me’ list.

Now for a hobbyist that’s not comfortable using social media, there’s little loss.  There are more than enough providers on P411, Eros and here at TER to work with.  It’s more a thing for providers to look into how to leverage these platforms to reach a wider swath of customers safely.

Who's the 'team'? I don't know you or remember you paying for my dates with these ladies? So you can go fuck yourself, fucking clown...

In any case, I've met many guys and gals from TER. Some are still here, some not.  

I don't remember you in LV for a couple M&Gs, or at my house with mrfisher and Jake, or at their houses....

Or for that matter when some certain ladies went out of their way to pick me up at the airport before our date and spent more time they were contracted for....

Shall I go on?....

There's no 'team'. It's not even 'hos against bros' like some profess. It's being cool with certain people that dig each other.  

Pull your head out of your fucking ass, you fucking clown.  

You take something that's cool and twist it all fucked up to hell....

Go fuck yourself, and do it today...!

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