Because Ellen caught him having sex with one of the extras and told Man alive, if that isn't the funniest crap ever. McDreamy turns out to be McNaughty or McCheater!!! That shit is classic I tell ya. Take that every dumb ass woman who had the nerve to cry over his fictional ass. I'm sure it wasn't the only reason he got canned but I think it was the last straw! His Diva ways led up to it being the last straw indeed. Honestly, I didn't think his goodbye was good enough. Or his tribute episode or whatever one may call it. I think Shonda should have created a better episode or episodes to say goodbye. Anyhoo, now it's "sister" time. Oh Lord. Yes, rolling my damn eyes.

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It's nauseating to me but perhaps not to others. Can't get my brain around this having seen original Wheaties commercials, Olympic TV footage, etc. from 70s onward. Ugh!
On the other hand, that hair (omg)....!
Society thinks EVERYONE is flawed in one way or another........just pick your poison.
Some of us frequent providers of carnal pleasures.
Some of us are married and frequent providers of carnal pleasures.
Pick your poison........I've picked both and feel much better off for these experiences. I only hope I continue to do so in a fashion that shows each provider that allows me to spend time with her........all the respect and consideration I can muster......they bring us pleasure often at considerable risk
its nauseating to me that someone's happiness in their body and presentation upsets others.
Her life, her choice. I'm glad she's happy. And she looks great.
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You are exactly the problem with this world. Think opinions should run *only* one way...your way. Fuck that and fuck you too...once I book a session, of course.
Her life, her choice. I'm glad she's happy. And she looks great.
Her life, her choice. I'm glad she's happy. And she looks great.
In fact it is a surgically assisted delusion.
as long as other people's delusions do not affect me, I'm not bothered by it
Glad she is finding happiness and learning to love self. At least she got it done ok, many don't and it looks horrid.
I do feel that family are media whores but I also feel that at least this story has some worth to it for others. Just wish it could be his story and not his stupid wife acting like it is all about her and her wants. Should be about his exploration and finding self, not his media whore family.
I don't feel it is anyone's business what she does. I don't follow it mainly because I think her family is one big joke.
Changing sexes is one of the hardest things to have to go through. She has a lot of strength to finally be herself. Am happy if she is happy.
Her life, her choice. I'm glad she's happy. And she looks great.
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and that is he knew and he married three women without really disclosing the issue*. OTOH, I am glad he/she gets to do what he/she wants for the remainder of his/her life. I am interested in whatever he has done to his hair, it is much thicker than it was. Lol!
* So says the shithead who engages in this hobby while married, take it with a grain of salt.
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* So says the shithead who engages in this hobby while married, take it with a grain of salt.
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I don't remember that there was disclosure prior to the marriages, certainly that things were noticed. Again, I was not entirely all "there" when I watched but I stand corrected if you are right. I will have to ask the W, she is fascinated by the whole thing, she taped the interview and watched it again.
to the first wife until one year into the marriage, she thought she could change him but did not divorce because of it. Same thing with second wife, told her later and it did have a role in divorce. The last one was aware of the cross-dressing but in his own words, he "downplayed" the whole thing to her. I don't expect to know everything about my wife, but say for example that she had felt she was born in the wrong body and she had felt that for decades, I do think that would be knowledge I should have prior to making a commitment (again, so says a cheating asshole.)
To be fair i think he didn't disclose everything, just that he liked to wear women's clothing.
But yeah u should re-watch it sober, it's really interesting. It totally made me have compassion for her. She and Diane did a great job at painting an honest picture of who she is and where she's coming from.
The cool thing is that her kids accept her. She has 6 biological kids and 4 step kids (the Kardashians), and all of them are so close to her and have lots of love between them.
They just want their dad (she told them that she'll still always be their dad) to be happy and to stop living a facade.
So it's pretty cool that people so super privileged still have such a close, loving family. ..
I told you guys before, I'm totally a Kardashians fan lol
It really was very interesting and it is great to see the support, I hope everything turns out well.
This is why I love you Katie! You bring an honest sensibility to the subject in a human, flawed world. We all have our prejudices, fears, phobias, hang ups, etc. so it seems to me we would do well to adhere to the biblical truth that "he without sin should cast the first stone."
For those of you who are disgusted, turn off the TV and don't read the stories. The last time I checked we still have the freedom to pursue our desires in this country even when they may not be the "norm."
Katie also pointed out the love and acceptance of her family and especially her children, wouldn't the whole world be better if we were as accepting of others the way Caitlyn's family is?
What's "nauseating" is transphobia.
So this is still America and this guy can do whatever he wants but others can still disagree with him!
If he was born a man then he is still a man with woman body parts.
Just another freak that like getting fuck by his ex wife and now he has gone all the way.
It's sick to me but again this is a free country. Lol
Is that near Transylvania? I hear it's in NC somewhere ...
They are the people whom are altering their physical appearance and gender. I'm not bashing transsexuals, I'm just trying to add some perspective to your ignorance.
To each their own is my philosophy.
If she isn't hurting my eyes I won't be offended by her surprise.
I'll never again let a Gal coerce me into believing her idea of beauty is the same as mine.
Never go by someone elses. Your 10 may be a 5 to me and vice versa.
Never go on blind dates because a friend may not see what you see. They will think they are great and you won't, whereas they will pass up someone they think isn't right for you... and that may be the one.
Ms Jenner does not turn me on at all. Am glad she is trying to be happy. Maybe it is because i know what she just looked like, IDK. I have seen plenty of pictures of gals that transitioned where they looked hot as hell.
Silly, what do you mean "I won't be offended by her surprise"? That open minded, eh? That is great. Just the way I took it and fuck those who don't let you be you. Love the honest answer.
If she isn't hurting my eyes I won't be offended by her surprise.
I'll never again let a Gal coerce me into believing her idea of beauty is the same as mine.

My ten is your five?
Don't give me that line !!
Should I check the time?
I'm not ready to die!
I'm frugal with my tens.
Some would say that's rare,
Among horny guys who care,
Little for truth,
More for "raˈpor re".
Others call unfair on my eights .
I declare..........
Open the Barn gates,
Caitlyn is NOT my vision of an attractive Hen.
More like a rooster with a bad make over.
Or my Dog Rover when he got run over,
By a pancake truck.
Yuck!!
Like Rover
I hope Caitlin is happy.
Now that it's over.
I would advise Caitlyn, for better luck with her Cover girl career.
She should try Kim's make up magician.
Never go on blind dates because a friend may not see what you see. They will think they are great and you won't, whereas they will pass up someone they think isn't right for you... and that may be the one.
Ms Jenner does not turn me on at all. Am glad she is trying to be happy. Maybe it is because i know what she just looked like, IDK. I have seen plenty of pictures of gals that transitioned where they looked hot as hell.
Silly, what do you mean "I won't be offended by her surprise"? That open minded, eh? That is great. Just the way I took it and fuck those who don't let you be you. Love the honest answer.
If she isn't hurting my eyes I won't be offended by her surprise.
I'll never again let a Gal coerce me into believing her idea of beauty is the same as mine.

Surely wasn't speaking about anyone specifically.
Just saying we all have differences in what we find attractive. Some guys think a gal is hot and I sure don't. I am sure they don't think what I consider a hot gal, a hot gal. We all got different tastes.
Was not speaking about you and your ratings. I haven't even looked to see who you have seen.
Nice rhyme lol.
Don't give me that line !!
Should I check the time?
I'm not ready to die!
I'm frugal with my tens.
Some would say that's rare,
Among horny guys who care,
Little for truth,
More for "raˈpor re".
Others call unfair on my eights .
I declare..........
Open the Barn gates,
Caitlyn is NOT my vision of an attractive Hen.
More like a rooster with a bad make over.
Or my Dog Rover when he got run over,
By a pancake truck.
Yuck!!
Like Rover
I hope Caitlin is happy.
Now that it's over.

I would advise Caitlyn, for better luck with her Cover girl career.
She should try Kim's make up magician.

Never go on blind dates because a friend may not see what you see. They will think they are great and you won't, whereas they will pass up someone they think isn't right for you... and that may be the one.
Ms Jenner does not turn me on at all. Am glad she is trying to be happy. Maybe it is because i know what she just looked like, IDK. I have seen plenty of pictures of gals that transitioned where they looked hot as hell.
Silly, what do you mean "I won't be offended by her surprise"? That open minded, eh? That is great. Just the way I took it and fuck those who don't let you be you. Love the honest answer.
If she isn't hurting my eyes I won't be offended by her surprise.
I'll never again let a Gal coerce me into believing her idea of beauty is the same as mine.

If beautiful is a 8 (really hot), then I would give her a 3 (homely). (And I don't even want to consider a possible performance score...LOL)
On the TER scale, I bet you some of the BSUs here would give her a 10, despite the fact that "she" was born over 65 years ago, and was born with a dick.
And women wonder why we don't trust the reviews where it comes to the appearance of a woman who blurs her pics. It's not just review manipulation, it's simply that some guys have no standards. News flash guys, not every woman is "gorgeous"
Frankly, I always liked Bruce Jenner. I remember rooting for him in 1976, and I'm not rooting against him/her today. BUT, that does NOT make him/her beautiful.
And, GaGa, for the record, I think he/she STILL has a dick!
Chopping off your dick shows commitment to your choice, dressing up like a woman could quite likely just be a publicity stunt, just something to keep the cameras and the cash rolling.
I don't really wish Bruce/Caitlyn any ill, but to call this media whore, one of an entire clan of media whores a "hero" is an insult to real heroes IMO.
If she truly wants to be a woman then she would lop it off and refashion a clit.
I never watched their TV show as I don't care what others do. If (s)he is happy then that's all that matters. I'm surprised that there is intolerance here.
But that's some nasty Frankenstein shit IMHO. Yeah, my opinion, the one I'm entitled to announce.
There are also other comments on this post that reflect intolerance. The rest of society condemns what all of us do here. Why does the collective here jump on each others throats?
Since Bruce Jenner has made this SO public, then I think people are entitled to publically share their opinions also. Sorry, but Bruce does NOT make a beautiful woman... and to say that she is beautiful is not being honest. That does not mean that those of us who dare to say anything negative are against his choice to attempt to be happy. It's his/her right to do whatever they want to do until it interferes with the rights of another, and it's our right to not find him/her beautiful. But, as I said before, I always liked Bruce Jenner. Too bad he did not come to this decision right after he won the Gold in 1976... but I imagine he liked the Wheaties $ too much! (And perhaps is running low so he's using this PR to re-fill the war chest.)
especially in our circle here.
I'll give you credit for speaking you mind, but perhaps a view of how this was received over 60 years ago by film maker Edward D Wood Jr. would be interesting and telling.
Here is his first major film. Though really more about transvestitism, it still speaks to the nature of this sexual issue.
Behold:
it does puzzle me that some people are literally so confused, so afraid and so empty they feel they have to take such drastic measures to be happy when happiness is on the IINSIDE. The same could be said for any woman who is addicted to cosmetic surgery to look better. So, I agree with you for the most part except it does not disgust me, though you certainly have a right to say that. Hell, anyone here can say two guys together disgusts them, cim disgusts them, fat girls and old girls disgust them... talk about hypocrisy lol.
On the other hand, that hair (omg)....!
And many of the girls have fake tits, liposuction and other surgeries to look better.
There are museums across the country that discuss tolerance and as a society this one here needs a lot of help. The continued hatred is disgusting.
I was agreeing that changing of sex was no different than many women who are obsessed with being so empty on the inside that all they can do is fix the outside. You're confusing hatred with fkin denial. It is very sad that people are so insecure on the inside they have to take such drastic measures, but whatever. If I choose to get Botox or tits like many others, that does not mean I have to be obsessed with image, which was what I said. Obsessed and empty are the key words. Many people get cosmetic procedures and it is like a new pair of shoes or getting their nails done. Others are OBSESSED. And, FYI no one owes us shit honey. I get called old and fat every day on this board... cry me a fkin river. We make choices and no one has to tolerate or coddle us... period. If I dye my 7 year old's hair blue and she gets made fun of, whose fault is that? Thanks. I am not going to call the school and raise hell because of MY choice.
I don't know how you can claim that some cosmetic change isn't still wanting to change an appearance. Why people do that is their right. I don't know where that line you're drawing is for it becoming an obsession though. Why would anyone call people fat and old unless their objective is to be hypocrites. We are who and what we are. The intolerance in this world is amazing.
Yes, intolerance is amazing and acceptance is not owed to anyone of us. Deal with it. It really is that simple. You, me and everyone else has a right to their own issues just like they have a right to fix what's broken. Personally, I could not give two shits what the next person does, but if I do find something disgusting (not the case here) I also do not give a fk who says I should be tolerant of it lol. Next...
Being a tolerant person is something that is woefully lacking in this country. The riots are plentiful. The finger pointing is incessant. People just seem to have no interest in anything but themselves.
The only thing that I see American people obsessing over is the voyeurism that they crave. The people love to see other's misfortunes. The news is full of these reality stars who have done nothing for society. Yet the people crave to see more and more of it, all the while hiding in their cubicles and being intolerant of everyone else around them.
I'm sorry that things are tough for you. You seem like someone who actually might care for her fellow man, woman or TG.
I am accepting of anything under the sun minus explicit shit with children and animals.... how tolerant is that? Tolerance is one thing though... other people have a right to find something gross. I mean, they really can't help it. I know plenty of men on this board who love two women together, yet are grossed out by two guys. It does not make them homophobic not to want a d*ck in their mouths if they are straight, just like it's not wrong for a gay person to find straight sex gross. For fk sake, is that not what everyone in this thread is saying... THEY ARE BORN THAT WAY? Point made. I can't help that I find Tofu disgusting, and others can't help what they find disgusting. Personal preference and intolerance are not one in the same.
I have no problem with what Bruce Jenner is doing. BUT, if anyone honestly thinks that he's a beautiful woman, they are just being politically-correct or dishonest. I am still not sure if I consider him a woman yet anyway since he still has male junk, but I guess if Jenner identifies as being a woman than that's his decision and not mine, so I'll play along on that front... but he is NOT beautiful! Frankly, until recently I though Jenner was the one sane person in their family. It's a shame that some people need to do such drastic things to attempt be happy in their later years -- but if he's not happy on the inside, I doubt if this is REALLY going to do the trick. (BTW, I would have understood him doing this 30 years ago more than today.)
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You know your family tree is fucked up when Bruce/Caitlyn Jenner is the SANE one. ROFLMFAO
Mikey, I am still laughing over that one.
and for the record, anyone who thinks Bruce/Caitlyn is beautiful needs their fucking eyes checked.
I do hope on some level that this makes him/her happy, but like you, I have VERY serious doubts. It will however keep in the public eye for years to come, and part of me can't help but think that is the whole purpose of his "courageous" decision.
I also wonder if being married to a pimp (Kris) for so many years pushed somehow pushed him over the crazy ledge?
I still remember cheering for him in 1976. What a damn shame!
and NO, I don't think he's fucked up because of his sexual confusion. He's fucked up because of his life as a Khardashian media whore, inviting the entire world into both his living room, his bedroom, and I assume his bathroom for a few bucks.
I still can't imagine why ANYONE would spend even five minutes watching this mind numbing drivel.
That's who watches that drivel.
are not analogous to women who are obsessed with their physical attractiveness; nor are they "being so empty on the inside that all they can do is fix the outside". They are not in denial, or so insecure that they must take "drastic measures".......
This thread is nauseatingly 'ignunt. Seriously makes my stomach hurt. The lack of understanding---compassion----or hell---even the lack of a rudimentary understanding of gender dysphoria----is not shocking to me.
But, damn...talk about throwing stones at glass houses on a fuck board
For some, they have a belief that gender based identity IS the same as any other one, just as sexual based identity is. Some believe you are born gay, others do not believe that. I do not care one way or the other what someone wants to do or who they are, and do not discriminate being friends or seeing them based on that either. What I do not like being told is because I am a hooker that I must be tolerant of shit I do not agree with... again, this is not the case. I do not care one way or the other but it's naive to assume someone who goes through this much trouble does not have some self esteem issues. They most certainly fkin do in most cases. They do not know who they are inside or out, pretty much equates to being confused, scared or empty. I mean, duh.
This thread is nauseatingly 'ignunt. Seriously makes my stomach hurt. The lack of understanding---compassion----or hell---even the lack of a rudimentary understanding of gender dysphoria----is not shocking to me.
But, damn...talk about throwing stones at glass houses on a fuck board.
And, I stand by that.
I certainly did not tell you that you need to agree with shit you don't believe in because you're a hooker.
We disagree, obviously. But this is not just about disagreeing. It's about understanding. And, the places you and I are starting from on this topic are too far apart to bridge here
Being born the wrong gender is not the same as cosmetic procedures etc.
You are London right now. Consider how you;d feel if you truly 100% felt like a man. Now consider how you would feel everyday knowing that you are stuck in that body. You can go about life acting true to self and "be a man" but you still don't have the body and societies judgements of you trying to be a man.
So, you concede that a person who was that confused and torn inside because of their own perception (not the perception of others) would probably have some self esteem issues? Thank you. That's what I said lol. I have watched several friends of mine struggle with sexual identity, going back and forth from gay to straight, gay to straight because they were totally confused not just experimenting and having fun with both sexes. I have seen a few struggle with gender as well for the same reasons (like you said, not knowing where they fit in or who they are) and still never finding that place after a sex change.
I am both accepting and sympathetic, but some people need to make up their minds about what goes on. If you are constantly made fun of and told you are supposed to be a certain way, you're going to have some issues with being insecure just like we all do... gay or straight, man or woman, etc.
And no, Harlowe, I will not refer to Bruce as a woman because I have grown up watching him as a man just as his family and friends have. Do you think Brody will be calling his dad a woman from here on out just because Bruce puts on a dress? You want smpathy and empathy, yet you don't have it for anyone else. What about his family? They don't have to accept a damn thing to still love him. Too many people want the world to wake up one day and change just because they have... not gonna happen.
I am both accepting and sympathetic, but some people need to make up their minds about what goes on. If you are constantly made fun of and told you are supposed to be a certain way, you're going to have some issues with being insecure just like we all do... gay or straight, man or woman, etc.
And no, Harlowe, I will not refer to Bruce as a woman because I have grown up watching him as a man just as his family and friends have. Do you think Brody will be calling his dad a woman from here on out just because Bruce puts on a dress? You want smpathy and empathy, yet you don't have it for anyone else. What about his family? They don't have to accept a damn thing to still love him. Too many people want the world to wake up one day and change just because they have... not gonna happen.
I don't believe any physical alterations will bring true happiness.
is NOT AT ALL the same thing as a cisgender (non-trans) person desiring plastic surgery. Trans people aren't trying to change their physical appearance to get away from who they are- people who pursue hormonal and surgical changes (or just their gender expression via clothing/makeup/etc.) are trying to show and appear to the world as they know they already are!!
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That's your opinion... others disagree. I don't see why this is so hard to fathom. You forcing that shit down anyone's throat who does not agree is no different than others saying they are intolerant of x, y or z. For the record, I am all for Bruce doing whatever the fk he needs to do to be happy, but I am also not naive enough to think that gender identity is the only cause for his turmoil.
To his opinion and yes on a fuck board people get hypocritical????? Funny how the two of us went to, dare I say it, bat for him????
My observation is that he's dumb as a rock except for one thing: Promoting Bruce Jenner. He just did not appear all that sincere in the Sawyer interview. Everything about this seems scripted. He certainly has the right to do with his life as he sees fit and I fully support that right. But it would not surprise me at all if in a year or two he decides he was a man all along and gets a haircut.
she otherwise is a media whore and is part of that whole vapid kardashit thing. But in so publicly revealing and discussing her need to transition and her struggles all these years, and especially in light of her history as a male athlete icon, she brings transgender people further into mainstream acceptance. Many heart breaking stories out there about transgender children growing into adulthood in families and communities that reject and despise them. No one who doesn't hurt others should feel shame, humiliation, and rejection just for where they fall in the sexual spectrum and/or for whom they have a capacity to love.
you disagree. Not arguing, just want to know your view point.
If you had asked that a few weeks ago I might have been tempted to dissemble. But TER is pretty much useless to me as a resource after the pack caught the scent of my otherness... So here goes...
I think your post was very cleverly written to appear to play on the values of the OP: fairness, live and let live, the desire to minimize suffering and an appreciation for love. You also realize that males are often paralyzed by emotion and seek to avoid it... You are no clearly no stranger to these debates. However, I do not think you believe in any of those things. They are merely useful tools... I think you desire an inversion of the dominant culture and see Jenner's actions as a blow against it and a wedge to drive into its cracking foundation.
For my part, Jenner's actions fill me with equal parts pity and revulsion. His family fills me with revulsion. Those who are exploiting his behavior fill me with disgust. I do not want anyone involved punished. I want them treated as what they are: extreme deviations from the norm and dangerous examples.
To use your language: that is my truth.
You are too late to sanction me for it. I ran afoul of the pack and the SJWs a few weeks back and have falsely been labeled dangerous and on multiple blacklists... So I am not sure what you are going to do to this dissenter?
I disagree with your viewpoint but not going to bat you over the head for it. However, your interpretation of my own posting of opinion as some kind of deeply manipulative and deceptive gambit is bizarre and frankly sounds a bit paranoid. Not sure if you are just bitter & distrustful due to some previous argument on TER (as you imply) or whether you are going through some genuinely hard times and might want to talk to someone.
By the way, we do agree in part. As I stated, I think Jenner is a media whore. Those around her did indeed milk her transgender issue for all it's worth. But I thought about it and I think that Jenner herself has suffered a shitload over the decades and whether or not it is her primary purpose, her highly public (and brave) transition adds greatly to public understanding (and debate!)
You also failed to address what I said in between all the insults.
What I said was that you phrased your opinion in a way to maximize its effectiveness. You took into account your audiences preconceptions and assumptions and used them to further your point. How is that bizarre? Do you not do that? Is that not a tactic of the Cultural Left?
How about you answer these questions:
Do you desire an inversion of the dominant culture? Sexually, religiously and/or politically?
Do you see Jenner's actions as an opportunity to further that aim?
You have admitted as much:
"I think that Jenner herself has suffered a shitload over the decades and whether or not it is her primary purpose, her highly public (and brave) transition adds greatly to public understanding (and debate!)"
I guess I should thank you for not beating me over the head for my opinion?
What would that have been like
If all of the divisiveness over sexual orientation/gender identity can't be resolved to every heterosexual persons' satisfaction?
We're not obligated to do that.....but....
As a basic part of our capacity as humans to experience empathy and exhibit compassion, I'd like to hope that we can default to, at minimum, a mutual agreement that the mass shaming of children/adolescents/adults into depression and suicide is the only shameful part of this division
Yes.......bigotry can take many forms.......but in the end...........all bigotry is equally ugly.
You have a thin point here. I think Greek is nauseating...does that make me a bigot? I am with you on cock gagging again, does that make me a bigot?
There is a thin line between an opinion and a judgement. One thing to think it and maybe say it somewhere but another to persecute those directly. In other words I do not come on here telling everyone that anyone who engages in ass fucking is disgusting. Does not stop me from having that opinion and saying I find it gross.
I take your comments as your opinion and until you start harassing those that are trans directly, then fine, we call you what we like.
I don't give a fuck about Bruce, Caitlyn, or the entire fucking Khardashian clan. I don't wish them any ill, nor am I a "hater" I just plain DON'T GIVE A FUCK!!!
Does that make me a bigot, or just someone with standards?
Speaking of standards, Calling Caitlyn "gorgeous" shows how low standards are around here. Keep in mind this is a person who was born in the 1940's, Gorgeous is NOT the word that comes to mind when thinking about Bruce/Caitlyn.
A complete yawn. Eye of the beholder and I am not comparing her to a 20 year old but to other women in their 60's. Even given that, my eyes, my interpretation, your eyes, your interpretation, neither is right or wrong, just an individual taste.
but then there is simply "no taste at all"
If you are commenting that she is gorgeous in a way that you might refer to how gorgeous your grandmother is, that's one thing. If OTOH, you mean it a literal way that Bruce/Caitlyn is a "gorgeous woman" I will respectfully repeat my suggestion that you invest in a new set of glasses. Sorry
I always compare both men and women to which demographic (age bracket really) they are in, otherwise it is a pointless exercise for me. I find her gorgeous in her age group...period.
In that case, I suppose we aren't really in all that much disagreement, but to call "her" gorgeous without that caveat would render the word "gorgeous" meaningless IMO
I use that caveat a lot because it would be like comparing the average trick to a 25 year old male in great shape...a joke. Why on earth would I compare a 65 year old woman to a 25 year old? I know guys on here, for the most part, do that and I think it foolish and really only a way for them to justify being a tool bag to those ladies older than they prefer, regardless of how well kept an older lady may be.
I have very specific looks in the men and women I am attracted to and a huge percentage of the gen pop fails miserably. So I am left with a very small pool to choose from.
While the average TER 10, barely gets an 8 from me, even if only 1% of the populace is "fuckable" that still leaves over 70 million very fuckable people in the world. More than enough to last thousands of lifetimes.
and I don't believe in having categories on a fuck board. If I were rating myself (and being honest about it) I would barely be a four when compared to all men, 18-99 years old, but if I got to create a category of all men over 55, Fuck, I would be a rock star, as I KNOW I look damn good for a man pushing 60.
The fact of the matter is, when I am in the "real world" and competing for the attention of women without the advantage of simply giving them money, I don't get the "over 55" handicap, I have to compete for the hotties with every man of every age, so why should I delude myself that I am an 8 or a 9 appearance wise, when I know that at my age unless you are Sean Connery or George Clooney, you simply aren't going to be a "hunk" at this age, and this is coming from a guy who can easily pass for early forties.
So why should I hold hookers who make their living on their looks to a lower standard than I hold myself. A typical 40+ TER hooker with appearance scores of 9+ is unlikely to get more than 7s in the real world, and probably 6 or less from the likes of me.
and for the record I am not a tool bag to the OTHFBC, but I am not going to be sucking up to grandmothers and telling them how hot and sexy they still are until I am the one who needs new glasses. Calling Caitlyn "gorgeous" is beyond foolish IMO and is only a product of political correctness. Yes, she could pass for a rather average looking woman in her mid to late fifties, and that is a high compliment for a woman who is not a woman at all, but a man in his mid sixties, but that's as close to "gorgeous" as I am prepared to concede.
On the other hand, that hair (omg)....!
I've seen plenty of boards like this one. Someone makes a comment that isn't necessarily a popular comment and someone like you has to call the poster out. Why did you feel the need to add the swearing in your post? Is that supposed to make sure that the poster you replied to knows you're serious?
.. and is part of what makes Annie Leibovitz the master she is. Aldo is left in the dust. Ladies....go to Annie!
I don't care what anyone does to make themselves happy but why does it have to be splashed all over the news and the rest of us required to celebrate it or else be called "intolerant" or "bigots".
On the other hand, that hair (omg)....!
Is the... ''so you are into having sex and fornicating with professionals, you must support the LGBT crowd as well".
Why are these two groups lumped together, each group is at opposite ends of the spectrum.
Exactly.
If the Bruce Jenner story had been about his sex life involving paying for sex with escorts I would have felt the same way. Why does this need to be brought out in the open and celebrated. Should I follow his lead and come out to my wife and all my friends and acquaintances that I do this? Some things just need to be kept private.
Why are these two groups lumped together, each group is at opposite ends of the spectrum.
To be sure, people can choose to be private or not but I think Bruce is being brave. The statistics on suicide attempts are staggering, people who are facing these issues need to know they are not alone and it does not mean that we need to sit and applaud and encourage but we have to be human and give people a wide berth.
BTW, we don't keep our little "hobby" private, not strictly speaking, I know that one of the reasons I come to TER is that even if we all disagree on many things, I know that I am not the only guy who does this despite the fact that society tells me that I am a dirty scumbag who demeans women.
Yup. I have been told because I am a hooker I should also be tolerant of incest and underage porn... LMAO. Cray!
Why are these two groups lumped together, each group is at opposite ends of the spectrum.
Holy shit, has this ever opened a can of vipers released in this thread. i would have expected a more liberal and tolerable acceptance of Jenner's dilemma. I was surprised but not appalled.I thought what torture he must have be dealing with. I thought that this group , if any,might understand, an unusual sex related situation. But no, this group has shown they are just as bigoted, vindictive and hypocritical as the general population. Some are understanding and others not. Personally I don't give one hoot in hell if someone get's his or her jollies out of fucking box of rocks in hopes there is a snake in the box.
On the other hand, that hair (omg)....!
Basically: congrats; thank and give credit to the trans women of color who paved the way for your visibility, rights and acceptance; now please either step back or start using your privilege and media attention to discuss systemic oppressions facing trans communities.
That's my opinion and its a solid one. The trans community is over stepping its boundaries when they are trying to tell another human what to do with their own truth. I don't care if it's of a Like Nature. Period. Motherfucking people need to know their place. I don't care who you are or what YOU are or have been fighting for. Don't put that on that woman if she decides she doesn't want it and still wants to tell her story in the way she wants to tell it. Sorry. The Trans Community is still a bunch of humans. Which of course means, no one is a damn God in it.
And of course dumbass Kim is "advising" on that one. No Caitlyn, it needs to be a black dude in it. Hey, call Lamar up and promise him some "rocks". He'll do it for free! Ha. Ok, that was mean. Betcha it has been discussed though. At least once for laughs. Lmao. Oh sorry, I do believe Caiitlyn likes females . So, throw that idea out. Maybe Caitlyn and Diane got it on after dinner that night. Oh snapples! Would you want to see THAT! Lol.
None of my damn business.
It affects me, my life, liberty and happiness in no way, shape or form
Did you know that? No seriously think about it did you REALLY know that?
Now think about this>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Based on the data from the Center For Disease Control deaths due to MURDER/homicide accounted for less than 1% of all U.S. deaths, with the odds of being murdered in a given year at 1 in 18,989 (BTW that's a percentage of 0.00005266206%)
The person most likely to kill you is a Doctor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But Americans want to be tough on crime and give a free pass to the Doctors
How is that possible? Shit like this. Keep 'em drunk, high, stupid and confused. AND YOU KNOW WHAT IT'S WORKING--BIG TIME.
The reason I posted the aforementioned is that we have our fucking priorities confused in this country.
This is not about Bruce, Caitlyn or anyone else in that trashy ass family.
The issue is that more Americans pay attention 2 this shit than will actually go out and vote on Election Day.
I can give a rat's hairy ass about Caitlyn or Bruce BTW. But it is a sad state when people think that this SHIT matters 1 BIT. Bruce, can be Caitlyn, Kate, Katie, Peggy or whoever the fuck she wants. Doesn't make a fucking difference to me.
I just feel bad for everyone else. This is how the powers that be keep you confused and oppressed. Keep your mind focused on stupid shit (and this is stupid shit BTW) while they secretly take your pension, cut social security, underfund your schools and poison your water. But WTF let's debate Bruce errr Caitlyn.
In addition, Caitlyn has admitted that she is a R*******. The same party that wants to stop Caitlyn from being Caitlyn. Kinda fucking ironic if you ask me. Still ironic even if you did not ask me.
Don't know man feel sorry for everyone. I go into work enter a few BS orders and make a decent living and never lift a fucking finger. Meanwhile the boss makes WAY more than me, does even less work and still complains that the government is ruining everything.
RT
So RT I know you watch the show (and are also a Grey's Anatomy fan but anyways)....
So my in depth question is, would you do her? What if she took it up the arse? What is a R*******?
Or are you still mad about McDreamy? Who the heck cares about him after they killed off McSteamy?
You all should take the RT certification on this topic and let it be.
Now think about this>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Based on the data from the Center For Disease Control deaths due to MURDER/homicide accounted for less than 1% of all U.S. deaths, with the odds of being murdered in a given year at 1 in 18,989 (BTW that's a percentage of 0.00005266206%)
The person most likely to kill you is a Doctor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But Americans want to be tough on crime


How is that possible? Shit like this. Keep 'em drunk, high, stupid and confused. AND YOU KNOW WHAT IT'S WORKING--BIG TIME.
The reason I posted the aforementioned is that we have our fucking priorities confused in this country.
This is not about Bruce, Caitlyn or anyone else in that trashy ass family.
The issue is that more Americans pay attention 2 this shit than will actually go out and vote on Election Day.
I can give a rat's hairy ass about Caitlyn or Bruce BTW. But it is a sad state when people think that this SHIT matters 1 BIT. Bruce, can be Caitlyn, Kate, Katie, Peggy or whoever the fuck she wants. Doesn't make a fucking difference to me.
I just feel bad for everyone else. This is how the powers that be keep you confused and oppressed. Keep your mind focused on stupid shit (and this is stupid shit BTW) while they secretly take your pension, cut social security, underfund your schools and poison your water. But WTF let's debate Bruce errr Caitlyn.
In addition, Caitlyn has admitted that she is a R*******. The same party that wants to stop Caitlyn from being Caitlyn. Kinda fucking ironic if you ask me. Still ironic even if you did not ask me.
Don't know man feel sorry for everyone. I go into work enter a few BS orders and make a decent living and never lift a fucking finger. Meanwhile the boss makes WAY more than me, does even less work and still complains that the government is ruining everything.
RT
Because Ellen caught him having sex with one of the extras and told Man alive, if that isn't the funniest crap ever. McDreamy turns out to be McNaughty or McCheater!!! That shit is classic I tell ya. Take that every dumb ass woman who had the nerve to cry over his fictional ass. I'm sure it wasn't the only reason he got canned but I think it was the last straw! His Diva ways led up to it being the last straw indeed. Honestly, I didn't think his goodbye was good enough. Or his tribute episode or whatever one may call it. I think Shonda should have created a better episode or episodes to say goodbye. Anyhoo, now it's "sister" time. Oh Lord. Yes, rolling my damn eyes.
Tucky ain't no Greys Anatomy fan but he is spot on with this thread and his message for the most part!
P.S. My last girlfriend thought McSteamy was waaaaaay hotter too. Lol. I swear her pussy dripped every time he was on that damn screen. Which was cool. I got a lot of McSteamy sex after a lot of Greys shows. I mean you could set a clock to it. Greys, McSteamy and then bow chica wow wow!!! Is that how it goes? Oh well. Hey, I ain't ashamed to admit I piggybacked off of McDreamy doing it for her some. Not at all. Worked for me! I miss the old Crew but hey I'm one of the ones who missed Burke, so there you go. The new crew has grown on me but the old crew that's gone, will forever be missed by this Blacky.
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look better than a lot of women you have seen at WalMart? I add that question!
Oh sorry, now I read your message again. Lol. R******** is a Republican. Lol. Yeah, he or now she believes in the "constitution". Oh yeah, I watched. Hey whatever. Whatever floats thy boat Caitlyn. I was actually touched by the interview but Im an emotional pussy, soooooo.
No, my question is what the fuck is a RidgeTucky damn it?
over her only brother being dead, at the exact time that Owen shows back up? See, this is the shit I can't stand with Shondas writing. I mean WTF. Meredith has almost died a thousand times. Oh yeah, you're going to let the major character die. After the first drowning, let it go Shonda. Now with this, Amelia goes what, a month, two months without breaking down and the moment it just becomes too damn much to bare and she loses it, she turns around and Owen is there. Not only is Owen there but he is in his fatigues back from the mission. Man, get the fuck outta Grey Sloan Memorial Hospital with that load of unicorn shit piles! Ugh. I'm done. Anyhoo, I love Amelia. Only bc she is so damn gorgeous to me. I'm such a damn girl at times. Whatever.
Yep, you weren't even talking to me and allllll that came. I blame Tucky for making sense and I have insomnia of the worst kind tonight. My head hurts.
where as I am not going to watch any longer. Really made me mad that my lesbians didn't get back together or even get a tease in the finale.
So now I am free to do whatever Thursday nights, at least while I am on strike.
Been trying to tell RT he likes the wrong couples on there.
And there is no lady in her right mind who doesn't drool over McSteamy. McDreamy isn't all that exciting.
Hector you are so funny being all into it. Should have heard me about the finale lol. Pm anytime you want. Shonda is out to ruin our lives I tell ya!!!
Yep, you weren't even talking to me and allllll that came. I blame Tucky for making sense and I have insomnia of the worst kind tonight. My head hurts.
I've been overall disappointed with Greys for awhile. Guess I'm just loyal, so I keep tuned in. It's not a show I care about watching every week anymore . Keep it on my dvr and catch up when I can. I still love it mostly mainly bc I've been with it so long (lol) but I am awaiting its farewell to be honest. I really think it's run should be coming to an end soon. End it right I say. Know when to call it quits. The best storylines and relationships have gone and passed already imo. It will never be what it was in those areas. It just won't I think
I can totally see where you're coming from on the strike for sure! Wo question! Yes, Shonda is out to ruin every old Greys Anatomy fans lives. Those of us who have watched it for so long are like, what happened to yesterday? Smh. Kinda sad but hey, it's just a damn TV show right?!!!! Lol.
Be easy Alex!!
On the other hand, that hair (omg)....!
Yes, she still has a dick. No sex change and from what I recall, Bruce said he was not thinking about that. So, this goes above a lot of people's heads and I am not 100% aware of it all. But if a human says they have felt a certain way their entire lives, who the fuck is anyone else to say they are lying? They are crazy. They are weird. To think you are better served to have peace and happiness than they are. Get the fuck outta here with that comical and juvenile shit. If he wants to identify as a she and be called a she with a woman's name, so be it.
Nature is complicated and still beautiful in its complications. You hicks (I don't care where you're from actually) really need to get over yourselves. You are no better than any other human walking around, no matter how they identify themselves. Fuck outta here. Bitches is all you all are in my book. Weak bitches. Spouting dumb shit every second you can. Wish I could round every single one of you hateful, small-brained motherfuckers up and END you. The world would be better for it indeed.
If it was a genuine, concerned question I apologize but I got my money on Nope, it wasn't.
... Vanity Fair air brushed and photoshopped the shit out of that picture.
As long old Bruce still has his gonads and no ovaries... he's still a man.
So what about the hair?? It's sexy on a woman, not some guy trying to play us for fools and money.
Yea... I'm still with PussyLipGloss about watching Bruce Jenner beat the shit out of the Soviets in the decathlon in the 1976 Olympics. He was a man then and still is a man now.
Now, begin the flaming and bashing. I don't give a fuck. It's my opinion and I'm entitled to it!
I think that Bruce Jenner/Caitlyn will be getting tons of contracts to be the face behind many brands and its quite likely that she will become a household name very quickly.
Sitara
Not to mention all the millions of dollars that will come with it. Bravery my fucking ass.