so I'm looking at a profile on p411 and she has it linked to TER, but when you follow it the message says that her profile has been removed.
I'm assuming this is typically done at the provider request.
My immediate reaction is this is not good - did she have bad reviews and decided to shut it down?
I probably should just pass.

but it can also be because its a sanction for violating TER rules with respect to reviews, board posts or advertising content.  

Every lady has her own reasons for delisting, unless you know her personally I wouldn't worry about it

By vacation do you mean retiring?  

Some don't feel that Ter is fair to them on that front, as well as not allowing women to reply to reviews. They also find great difficulty in getting fake reviews removed, which can place a provider in a very awkward spot with future clients as they may not perform certain sex acts listed in the fake review. Those are legit, good reasons, wouldn't you say?

I don't get the whole misogyny argument.  This isn't a 9 to 5 office job service, it's a place where providers come to offer there service and clients come to search for those specific services.  

You need to face facts - some ladies dislike the whole "review culture". I know a few personally who provide outstanding service and had great reviews but they chose to delist and get off of TER.  

They seem to only dislike the whole "review culture" once they've built up a decent amount of clientele (from reviews) to not need reviews.  

Not all fake reviews are negative.  Since one motivation for fake reviews is to get free VIP time, many fake reviews are just plagiarized events from previous reviews.  The reviewer will embellish with his own particular fiction.  This is where providers can sometimes spot fake reviews.  The reviewer will mention certain things, clothing, locations, etc that never existed.

kiss more provider ass and put them up on pedestals more will come back here and remind us what miserable losers we are.  If we DON'T do that, then its because we are misogynists.  Those dots don't really connect for me either, but Rob's kind of suck up to the ladies.  I'm not saying that's necessarily bad.  Who knows what kinds of perks he getting for being a submissive male.  Lol

No one puts them up on pedestals more than you do.  Your reviews remind us of what a miserable loser you are.  You score them 2 or 3 points higher than what TER says they should get based on your description of their performance.  You really suck up to K-girls.  I'm not saying that's necessarily bad.  Who knows what kinds of perks you are getting for being a submissive male.  Lol

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I have a dear friend who has legal issues, and reviews on TER under a certain name can be connected to her. I know this is legit because I've met her attorney. Serious stuff.  

named after firearms.  Very enticing.  

Do we call her Big Green?

Still no life of your own without me?

which of your stalkers posted.  Unless you read the post and are pretending you didn't, which is exactly what you did.  And of course you couldn't rebut a single word of my post, which got four "likes" BTW.  Keep pretending you're not reading my posts, moron.

That's what some girls say when they move onto Twitter.  Twitter is going thru cycles of change.  Lots of girls posting about deposits and real references.  Many are realizing poor results, and this takes time to sink in.

I find it hard to believe a TER review can be anything beyond hearsay and therefore inadmissible in court.

I know attorneys  who would disagree  with you.

Pretty sure that the legal status of the reviews would be testimony from a participant with direct knowledge of the event. Hardly hear-say.

Not so fast. Google "league of gentlemen seattle"

I knew a girl.that copied & pasted some positive TER reviews on her web site. TER delisted her. That's a violation.
Some girls want to stay under the radar. I saw a girl I saw only on P411. She was one of the best I have ever seen..she sajd... no reviews.. I agreed. She has no interest in being reviewed.

The review itself or the reviewer on the stand?  That's quite a different story.

It would be interesting to hear how a review written anonymously on a public forum with no checks as to its veracity could be entered into any court evidence.  But I would like to hear a lawyer to thinks otherwise.  

I doubt a TET review could survive a hearsay objection. There would be two levels of analysis.  

an attorney who bills by the hour.  

Great point! You're finding more ladies wanting to stay clear of review sites to limit unwanted "exposure", so to speak. (They have a good business with a steady clientele and they're perfectly OK with their setup.)

One area of confusion on legal matters is that LE press releases often mention things that will never be allowed in evidence in court. Some people assume that the public case is the one presented in court. LE can say anything they want to the press. Not so to the jury.

A review is hearsay. The person who wrote the review would have to be put on the stand to testify - that would NOT be hearsay.

Correct. And they can use hearsay to get warrants. So reviews could be used for that purpose. They just aren’t admissible in a trial or evidentiary hearing without proper foundation.

If you have testimony from the participant(s) you don’t need the review. It would at most be used to refresh recollection or to impeach if the live testimony is inconsistent with the written review.

Hey now!

But now many ladies who had above average to stellar reviews don't want to be part of the "review culture". TER wants to keep provider profiles/reviews up not take them down. Not saying there are exceptions to what I've said here thou.

I have to agree with Steph above.

excepted, of course.  Lol

That case contained hours of audio recording by an undercover officer who had infiltrated the group and attended their meetings.  As dcgrind explained, the reviews in that case only corroborated the audio confessions that LE obtained undercover.  One thing they never said to my knowledge was whether the cop had to fuck Kgirls to maintain his cover within the group and whether taxpayers paid for his sessions.  I think without the shared experience of seeing certain girls that came up in conversation frequently, his ability to conceal he was LE would have been difficult.  

Seems to be everyone is taking "legal reasons" to imply the lady is perhaps being charged with prostitution. That may or may not be the case. All we know is that the real person can be legally linked to the alias the reviews were written about.

Yeah. People on another site that rubs some maps have always cried that reviews were used by Leo's to indict workers, but in fact those reviews were mostly used by Leos to pressure landlords and businesses nearby,anf the most graphically explicit ones would be chosen for this purpose.

Interesting situation ... I wonder if undercover LE could go to an appointment, claim to have a headache or ED or appear drunk or be too tired or whatever, have a friendly CLOTHED cuddle session or 1 hour nap and use that as evidence?

Evidence that NO CRIME was committed. lmao

Minneapolis stopped allowing cops to get happy endings in their massage parlor busts not that many years ago.

just tip like everyone else?  

That law only changed in 2014.

from his captain to go through with the sessions to keep his cover intact during the nearly-2-year investigation, and he failed to take advantage of it, then he's the dumbest fucking cop on the planet.  Lol

I had a good friend who was outed at her job. They decided to place her on suspension and pursue an investigation. During the investigation, they found her TER reviews. Although her employer didn't pay to read the reviews, the TER profile was a major strike due to what's listed in the profile (re: blowjob, CIM, touch pussy, lick pussy, etc.). The TER profile, in addition to her photos, albeit blurred, was enough for her employer to let her go. Now, that was an employer and not the legal world, but having reviews can hurt us in various ways.

Yes, I can imagine that even without the "juicy details" getting outed and having her TER profile discovered by an employer could very easily end up with your friend getting fired.  

I can see it now, one of her supervisors is going to tell her "I know you are sucking dick for a living because as a VIP TER member I have read your reviews" ROFOMFAO

Yes - you are correct in that VIPs can only read those details. However, the public can see the actual words of the categories without having to be logged in. The public can also read about a provider's physical details. Even that little bit of information, in addition to any other information they can find, be it ads, social media, a blog, etc. along with other photos, would be enough for someone to 1+1= 2.  

I am the boss of my company and having once been a hooker would NEVER be a reason that I would fire someone.

that those physical traits only have a vague correlation to reality, most times.

We understand that. However, we're talking about how people outside of this industry would view this. People who probably have some pretty, for lack of a better word, "shitty" hot takes about this industry. To them, if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck.  

Like has been said, I am sure there are different reasons. I can give you one I found just now.  

Apparently, TER doesn't want to remove fake reviews anymore and will only put "Provider disputes the review" at the top of it.    I'd much rather have less-than-wholly-positive, REAL reviews, than glowing yet fake ones.  But TER doesn't care.  

TER doesn't care about mongers either if they suggest a review is fake -- all comes down to the same problem: How does TER actually prove truth of any claim and to what standard of certainty?

Good luck on getting the “The Provider Disputes this Review “ statement to remain  
Familiar with the following.
The dispute was on services provider provided  if she had even seen said client.
In a case she provided proof . Reviewer provider proof? and review stood with the removal of the claim.  
Provider now delisted.
As a client one can often tell it is a fake as details are wrong ( not as easy now as site does not require as much detail) but if send notice to TER they respond with have provider dispute and most will give up before they get through the runaround.

Personally, I never delete anything I worked on//started//created because I like to feel I can return to it, in the future (for work and money.) Occassionally, I remember an event//person from that location//business//website, and i need to double-check everything about them.  I never feel comfortable when I am banned, or when the business location//website changes, and I am cut off from them.  

Secret Shopper Authentication
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/ter-general-board-12/secret-shopper-authentication-983839

" Mystery shoppers, which are gig workers or independent contractors submit detailed reports and feedback about their experiences. " ( from the wiki link you provided)

Another provider who mentioned this happening still has it on a review from January of this year.  Interestingly, it seems PMing the reviewer is not possible now; does that mean he was kicked off TER?

This is why: