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Dani,

I have never met you, but it would be my guess you are already ahead of the curve in service. Mostly because, you give a F.

But I caution you, being everything to everyone would be just too much. Being versatile, with a few tricks that you do super well is enough for most. Your attitude and expression of self will carry almost every guy to a satisfied ending.

Look at every woman who scores consistant 10s, it is either because they really seem to enjoy what they are doing or they are enjoying what they are doing.

Hell for me, make me feel like a god for 40 minutes and I will be yours. How do you you make me feel like a god? Let me make you cum over and over. (or at least pretend well enough) It feeds my ego and will make me satisfied.

I bet there are others that are motivated by something else, but a little questioning will get you the answer you look for. We are not generally very good at hiding what makes us happy. Give us that and we will score you a 10 every time.

as far as website. it goes back to what I said earlier. be yourself. You cannot be the perfect woman for everyone, but if you are not yourself on the web page it will bring you guys you wont match with.

for example: a woman was portrayed as a wild, dominant woman by the agency she worked for. They had her all dolled up and her pictures were 10s. When I met her, she was quiet, and quite plain. She was not at all dominant, but quite submissive. It took me a few minutes to figure out why we were not clicking. Then I realized I was eating chicken, when I had ordered the lobster flambe. I love chicken usually, but I had it in my mind that she would be one way and she was something else. It made for a poor start and effected our time.

So be you and you will get a client that is happy up front. You be you and he will be happy in the end too.

...consider this my official comment card for this enthralling profession.

Hi guys, did you miss me? I know I have been away for a while, and I missed you all terribly, honestly. Dont worry, I was ok, I just had some family issues to resolve (and you guys who know me personally, know what I mean, and thank you for your support). But I am back, and I have some questions to ask that I have been saving up for ya! I wont bombard you with them all at once, but believe me, you will be hearing from me like you used to from now on! Promise...

So, back to the subject at hand. I am here now to ask you for your opinion on what makes a great  session/visit/lady/website/etc. Now, I know I have posted enough questions on this board about quality and service along these years, but here and now, I want them all answered-- all at once... anything you can think of, about anything at all, spew it forth, I want to know. Be open, be honest, hell, be anonymous! I care not! I just know I would like to hear anything that has ever crossed your mind about needing improvement on. From smallest detail to big deal-pet peeve! I mean what to wear, what to do, how to act, whats more convenient, what makes a better website to sevre you... whatever. I know character and taste can vary from lady to lady, but I want to know what the guys are looking for, from when they click on the website-- to when they walk through the door...

Tell me what's wrong, what's best, and what's better than best... go for it...

thanks....

Dani

I look for passion... if your passionate about what you do, no matter what it is, it will be great.  I have now used 3 providers and the 2 who enjoyed what they did where phenominal. The 1 who didn't just ... no pun intended....sucked.

It sounds like you are leaving the door open to a lot of personal preference here. Not all men go into this for the same reason. Some want variety. Some want a sense of adventure. Some have an exotic need that the SO won't do for them. Some don't have anyone and are just looking to "get some".

Some have a lot to risk and some have little so some are very big on privacy and some only care that they don't get ripped-off or busted.

I'm sure just about any guy looking for something above SW class wants a woman who is clean, presentable, attentive and responsive. Even if he won't say it, most men want to be treated like they are somebody special. The more you are empathetic and supportive of fulfilling their needs, the more they will get from a session and more likely to want to see you again.

I know that's a vague answer but it just depends from guy to guy what they are looking for.

Coureur1500 reads

This question does vary considerably from guy to guy.     Besides the obvious (At least, I think that it's obvious...), I think that Providers' responsiveness contributes quite a bit to the making of a great session.  By this, I mean how quickly a provider responds to an email or call from a hobbyist can often set the tone for a really great session.

From the discussion boards, I get the sense that quite a few hobbyists are frustrated because of their difficulties (some their fault...) in getting ANY response.  

Danielle, when are you coming to Chicago?

Two notes - one, it seems the overwhelming answer is responsiveness.  That's a bit of a relief to me.  It's why I became a provider.

Two: hobbyists are frustrated at lack of response?  I return every call that comes to my phone.

Maybe it's that I'm new to the game.  I'm a new provider in the SF Bay area.  I'm all about customer service - I just need some clients!  Happy Monday, eveybody.

On at least three occasions over the course of a little over a year I had three appointments set up and the provider never showed up and never called or left any kind of subsequent message as to why they didn't show up.

To this day it is a mystery to me.

In the case of two of them, I had met them before, in one case twice, and all had been hunky dory.

Why they couldn't have called and left a message, even just to say I changed my mind and leave it at that, I'll never know why.

that many providers don't have enough pictures of themselves. I hate visiting a provider's web site and only seeing a handful of pictures. There should be at least 15-20 pictures for us to view to get a better description of what a providers appearance is.

I don't have my own website yet.  On Eros, any pix over 3 are another $20 a month.  When I havemy own I'll post more pix, but I'm thinking that expense is part of why you don't see more.

Hey Danielle. Never wrote you before, but you sound sincere about this and I wanted to reply.  I think most guys want something special -- better to go with a custom-built Ferrari than a mass-produced Ford truck anytime.  And that starts with attitude.

Initial impressions are usually important, but I personally don't get a personal impression too much from a provider's web site.  Sure, we want it to be easy to navigate and to give us some indication of your looks, quality of sessions, price, and best of all, what's on the menu.  But it's understandable that not all providers will want to include info that LE might use against them.

The best porn star I've ever seen was amazing when it came to our first phone contact.  Here's what I mean.  She asked my name and she called me by name several times during the call -- not sweetie, or hun, or anything fake like that.  She made me feel like for that time on the phone, I was the center of her interest.  She asked what kind of lady I like to be with, and I described my fantasy woman -- which was very much like her anyway (shape, face, hair, etc.).  She laughed genuinely -- not a fake laugh -- and said she thought we might make a great couple together.  She asked if I'd like a second lady with us and I asked her about the other lady.  She told me her name and I was familiar with her, and I told her that the other lady just wasn't what I like, and I told her why.  I think she warmed up at this, because it reinforced what I told her that I found attractive about her.  She said, "We ARE going to make a great couple."

I've never had a provider come to my home, but I have invited them to hotel rooms on a trip.  I prefer in such cases that she be dressed very well -- and appropriate to the time of day.  Since I usually want an appointment in the evening, I like to see them arrive in something appropo for an evening out, even if we're just going to stay in the room.  The best for me is something as simple as a classic little black dress, with very little if anything on underneath.

If, on the other hand, I meet her at her place, I also prefer that she be dressed well, whether it be in regular clothes or just lingerie.  No Fredericks of Hollywood with hole in the crtoch, please!  I like silk and lace (personal preference is black or beige).  

She should meet me with a big smile and a feeling like she's been waiting the whole day just for me.  I understand for legal reasons that some want the donation left in a plain envelope on a table somewhere.  That's fine.

But the one thing I hate is when they tell me to make myself comfortable and then leave me to undress.  OK, you're getting the idea that I like GFE or PSE.  I want to feel like a provider wants to make love to me, not just wham bam etc etc.  If she offers me something to drink (doesn't have to be alcohol), and wants to sit down and talk while we're holding each other, that's super.  Kissing (with tongue eventually) is an important part of being made to feel good.  When we undress, it should be where one undresses the other and vice versa, unless I specifically want to request a strip tease.

When we're down to the good stuff, the fuller range of services available, the better.  I'm not interested in seeing how many positions we can get into -- just how good we both feel.  I don't like the fake names (honey, sweetie, etc.) any more than I like unnatural screaming or fake O's.  I'm a big boy -- I know providers have lots of experience normally, and they're not going to get off every time.  But if she will let me TRY to give her an O, then I'll appreciate it that much more.  Yes, I love to give orally as well as receive, so hygiene is VERY important.  Oh, I like shaved, but I also understand that other guys aren't that way.

And please, make sure that atmosphere of your place is geared toward romance.  I don't need X-rated videos.  And I don't want the TV on.  Don't answer phone calls while I'm there, and turn the volume off on your answering machine.

When we're through with the good stuff, cuddling and talking is terrific.  Then, by all means, be ready for multiple pops.  Hurried sessions are complete turnoffs, so give yourself some extra leeway on your schedule in case a session with one hobbyist runs a little overtime.

And when it's time to say goodbye, let me leave with a kiss on my lips.  And if you'd like to make it truly memorable, include a pair of panties (I'd pay for them) and make sure that you tell me you can't wait for me to see you again.

Now, you see.  That's exactly the tone I was talking about -- you took the time to post a simple genuine reply.  Something tells me you'd be great to be with.  Come to Houston sometime and get in touch.  :)

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Dani,

I have never met you, but it would be my guess you are already ahead of the curve in service. Mostly because, you give a F.

But I caution you, being everything to everyone would be just too much. Being versatile, with a few tricks that you do super well is enough for most. Your attitude and expression of self will carry almost every guy to a satisfied ending.

Look at every woman who scores consistant 10s, it is either because they really seem to enjoy what they are doing or they are enjoying what they are doing.

Hell for me, make me feel like a god for 40 minutes and I will be yours. How do you you make me feel like a god? Let me make you cum over and over. (or at least pretend well enough) It feeds my ego and will make me satisfied.

I bet there are others that are motivated by something else, but a little questioning will get you the answer you look for. We are not generally very good at hiding what makes us happy. Give us that and we will score you a 10 every time.

as far as website. it goes back to what I said earlier. be yourself. You cannot be the perfect woman for everyone, but if you are not yourself on the web page it will bring you guys you wont match with.

for example: a woman was portrayed as a wild, dominant woman by the agency she worked for. They had her all dolled up and her pictures were 10s. When I met her, she was quiet, and quite plain. She was not at all dominant, but quite submissive. It took me a few minutes to figure out why we were not clicking. Then I realized I was eating chicken, when I had ordered the lobster flambe. I love chicken usually, but I had it in my mind that she would be one way and she was something else. It made for a poor start and effected our time.

So be you and you will get a client that is happy up front. You be you and he will be happy in the end too.

Be on time. Give an hour. Do what you've agreed on. Don't take calls while he's there. Don't hustle extras. Be clean in a clean location. Hug hello, kiss goodbye. Smile, giggle and laugh. In short be considerate, he'll think you're the greatest sex he's ever had.

To add my 2 ¢, please be considerate to newbies to the hobby (should they be able to set up an appt). Also, if you have ethnicity preferences, please get that clarified up-front  ;-).

Apologies if the last past isn't considered kosher.

1.  Use good business sense.  Return e-mails or calls promptly.  Have reasonable rates for your location.  But, don't count the $$ in front of me.

2.  Keep the appointment and be on time.  I realize things sometimes happen, but call the hobbyist if you have to cancel last minute.  Always cancel if you are sick with a cold.  

3.  During the session, be energetic.  Make the guy feel special and give him the full time scheduled.  YMMV but treat your client as someone special.

Everybody gives photos and measurements, but few websites tell us anything about the person behind the pictures.  Maybe not everyone will care, but I like to know.  Is she a college or grad student?  Is she a single mom needing some income?  Is she an office worker, wanting some nightime excitement?  A bored housewife with a husband who travels?  Of course, many providers may not want to provide any such clues.  But surely there is some way you can preserve anonymity while providing some human interest.  Remember, our potential appointment is with a person, not simply a physical object. Thanks.

LOL now if this isn't an example of 'you just can't win' I don't know what is :o)

A week ago there was a heated thread in which several men sounded off about too much fluff on websites, and now here you are telling us to fluff up our sites :o)

No worries, for them that want the basics - age, stats, pics, rates - its all there. But for the more discerning gentlemen, there is a bit of 'fluff' or personal info too. On my website anyways.

But I won't put it in black and white why I chose to start escorting on account of my answer may tend to incriminate me *g*

Gadzooks there is so much to say.  Now, Dani, this does not apply to you as your reputation is so excellent.  Here are some  thoughts:

1) Be reliable.  Answer the phone, respond to voice mail, answer email, show up on time.  Always.

2) Make scheduling simple.  So many ladies advertise 24/7, but can't deliver.  Screening is important and fair, but should be simple and minimally intrusive to make you feel safe.

3) Be nice.  Boys and girls both have to be showing their best behavior to make this work.  People are almost never looking for drama in their partner.

4) Be yourself.  Maybe with some you can fake it, but really you cannot hide.  Many providers will disagree, and think they can put on an act.  But this is hard to sustain.  If being yourself is in conflict with being nice, well then this is a bad job for you.

5) Be honest.  Do not upsell.  Do not short on time.  Be completely honest about the way you look.

6) Do not engage in sexual activity that you are not comfortable with.  If you don't like sex, this is a bad thing for you to do.  Other ladies who are more as attractive or more, charge the same or less, offer as many services or more will like doing this a lot.  This is true of any service industry or profession.

7) Keep your ads simple.  I am amused by ads from ladies without reviews talking about how wonderful they are.  Amused, but I don't take it seriously.

8) Despite its limitations, TER protects this community.  If you don't like reviews, ok.  However, if you permit reviews, things are likely to go well if you offer a great service.  Don't try to manipulate this.

9) Keep interacting with you as simple as possible. So many ladies make calling and setting up a date complex.  When it is straight forward, it is such a pleasure.

10) When you are with a partner give in to the sheer joy of the situation.  Properly done, this can be just a great experience for both the man and the lady.  Men almost always want the lady to have a great time.

Ok, to sum up.  Keep it simple, be reliable, offer great service, have fun.  Now was that so hard?

Oh!  One more thing ladies, keep it safe and stay healthy.  Avoid drugs, tobacco and too much alcohol.  Get enough exercise.  Do those things which make you happy, but be a good person who cares about other.  Do all this, and all will most likely go well.

Cheers!

Colonel Frank Slade1091 reads

Just kidding. To Serve Man is something very pleasant indeed, from the likes of you, my sweet Danielle.

I note a common theme among many notable posters here: Be yourself, and have fun. My preference is always to have the feeling of an inside friendship. A fuck buddy, if you don't mind the term. The eye contact; intimate glances; a wink and a smile in an elevator full of passengers; A breathless whisper in my ear in the heat of passion..."Fuck me".

I want something given, and I want to give. And here's a new one on this thread: I want the option of perfume.

I know most of the guys have to be careful about bringing home the scent of 'another woman' but, being unmarried, I'd like to take her smell home with me. The warm feeling from breathing in her scent later. The wistful smile that breaks out while I'm sorting laundry to be washed.

I had one lady carefully point out what kind of oil she was using to massage me, and where I could get it. I bought a bottle later on - so I could occasionally relive that wonderful night via the sense of smell. A year later, and I still get feelings when I get a sniff of that oil.

It'd be nice if the gal would ask during the contact setup if perfume was okay. I'd say "Bring it on, sweetheart, and give me one more way to remember that it was you, me, and that incredible night".

Hooah

...I have added to my contact form a section where you can ask that I not wear makeup or perfume or lotions and such. I have had a guy who was hyperallergic to everything (as he told it) and he made me take off my makeup and Victorias Secret lotion! And another made me shower for fear he would go home and be caught because I smelled like perfume and lotion!

So yes, I agree on that-- even though its part of what is great about a woman, her scent, I understand the need to have that option...

Dani

If perfume really makes the date for you, don't be shy about asking a lady to select her favortite perfume for your date. You are correct, most of us avoid perfumes for the very reason you stated. As a newbie I always wore perfume until a gentleman actually asked me to take a quick shower to rid myself of perfumes before we commenced play. Since then, the perfume stays in the bottle. However, if a gentleman asked me to wear some for him, I wouldn't be in the least bit offended by his request, and very happy to fulfill it :o)

Now that I've had 6 months and been with 10 providers... I'm an expert! lol.  

I was comparing my own hobby-time recollections the other day and what stands out for me as GREAT were those experiences - or even parts of our time together - when both my partner and I were fully present.  I've been bowled over by the natural enthusiasm of some women and drawn into the sultry passivity of others - but what made either experience great was her openess to the possibilities of our time together.  It could be athletic or almost motionless.  It truely is neither the "meat" nor the "motion" - it is the moment.  That is the taste that lingers and brings me back.  It's not always repeatable, but you can tell when a "provider" knows how to "be there", when she knows some of the many paths to mutual ecstacy.

Just do that!  Be a quide for those who haven't journeyed far... be a companion for the rest of us to journey further.  In the midst of the business and the busy-ness that surrounds the logistics of this hobby it remains a potential space out of time.

So keep learning and teaching and learning.  Great stuff if you've the taste for it.

Boris78989738 reads

Perhaps some sort of "Frequent Stroker Inches" rewards program  LMAO

Of course those of us that can only accumulate at 3 inches per stroke may require VERY low reward levels  LMAO

....frequent client incentives, referral incentives, birthday and military discounts,and programs for people who know they will want to see me often, we work out a better deal.

Dani

I know a few guys who are retired and on a fixed income.  Maybe providers ought to consider something like $10 off for every 5 years that someone has lived over 60.  We need to be kinder to our elders.  BTW, that would NOT include me.  :)

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