I'll preface this with I tip 99% of the time. I'm in hospitality and it's just what I do. Idc if others do or not, personal choices and all.

Tips should be freely offered, and gratefully accepted.. I have always tipped. But, if the service or attitude is lacking, from now on , forget it. I’m paying what the provider set as her fee. I’m not financially able to tip even the worst.
Despite my finances, I will patronize providers I can afford with a tip included.
It’s virtually 100% that the least deserving are the ones that ask.

Since so many ads/sites clearly say 'put the money in an envelope and leave in the bathroom' or whatever, I would NEVER feel comfortable handing them cash and I didn't think they would want me to.  Even after the session.  Should I tip?  How much?

For payment I do place money in bathroom or where instructed. Tip I'll hand to them direct. You definitely don't have to, I just pretty much always tip for most services because I lived off tips when I was younger.

this will not happen.  The only time I experienced it, was at AMP's where sexual activities were also offered, but that was years ago.  Low-end providers just assume their customers are never going to repeat, it's just the nature of a lower price point, so they are more prone to upselling and asking for tips.  Since it's a deal-breaker for you, next time, ask her what she did that deserves a tip.  Let her plead her case, and if you are convinced she should get one, give her a tip, if not, tell her that her argument was not persuasive.   Either way, I still wouldn't see her again if I were you.

Lol other than the 2 in my other catfish thread I'm typically in the higher end of the market 800-1200/hr. This girl was $800/hr for covered everything. She was smoking hot, fun personality. Other than being a little taller than I prefer she was great....I'd 100% would've brought her back often if it wasn't for that demand for a tip. I think she's just young and tried to milk me.  

I see a lady who visits my area every couple of months. I read one of her recent reviews and the reviewer stated that he tried to tip her but she refused the tip.

I never hand them cash.  I always bring two envelopes.  One with the exact amount of the stated rate, that I'll leave in plain view.  And then a second (approximately 10%) that, if I feel its warranted, I'll make a show of dropping it on the way out.

Say, "yeah I got a tip. for 800 I want a damn kiss at least!" and head for the door lol

To me they are highly paid individuals, and tipping should be reserved for low wage earners is my fundamental philosophy.   I also don't tip my CPA, Doctor, Lawyer etc.  

In my P4P career, I've tipped only when I felt the service was better than the price might indicate. Which is to say I've occasionally tipped a k-girl whose service is as good as providers charging twice as much.

Tip is different to me than a gift one extends to another as a symbol of friendship.   As a small business owner, I fully appreciate how much my CPA's experience and acumen comes into play to save me money and keep me out of cross hairs of the IRS.  Not too long ago I took  my CPA out for bond over some Indian food.  

Lololololol

it’s crazy how non GFE providers charge 600.00 and up and don’t allow kissing, do bbbj and allow DATY, don’t get me wrong, I don’t mind seeing a non GFE, but the most i would pay for a non GFE is 500.00, I seen a non GFE about a month ago and her donations was 400.00 for the hour, so I gave her a 100.00 tip, but if I’m seeing a non GFE provider for 800.00, i will never leave her a tip even if she gave a awesome service!

636sd,
  Let's make it clear for PROVIDERS & HOBBYISTS !!!!  No matter what you do for a living. Asking a customer for a tip straight to his/her face.......Is just plain right out rude. PROVIDERS......When you do up your ADs on any site.......Make it clear that tipping is not required, But it's appreciated.  HOBBYISTS......beware that most PROVIDERS rely on what you pay (And Yes nothing is FREE.) and TIPS are appreciated if you want the PROVIDER to take you at the last minute. PROVIDERS don't be rude by asking for tips.

I'm more likely to take my lawyer, CPA, clients, or business associates to a night out at a Laker game than give them some cash.  This is more appreciated anyway, because unless you are a season ticketholder, there are many nights when you can only get tickets from scalpers and those will usually be in the nosebleed seats.  Giving a professional or business person  a great experience always goes farther than cash or extra money.  As you say, they make enough already.

The providers I see appreciate it and their personal service is VERY personal!

And you can put the tip down on a table if it makes who uncomfortable handing it to a lady.  

there is an "upcharge" for duos is because there are TWO girls?  Saying, "I don't do any tipping. I figure, like some restaurants and hotels, the tip has already been priced in" sounds like a weak justification to be cheap.  Hotels and restaurants "itemize" when a service charge is included in the bill.  If it's not itemized, it's not included.  This is a weak , if not ridiculous, analogy when providers do not present you with a bill at the end of the session showing you whether OR NOT a tip is built into the price.  That is a unilateral decision you are making for your own benefit in order to justify your cheapness to yourself.   Nobody else will buy it.  I'm embarrassed for you.   Go ahead and tell this to a provider face to face at the end of the session, i.e., that you don't tip because you believe it's built into the price, and see what her reaction is.  Lol

That would explain your explosion.

I didn't see his response because I have him on ignore and anything I post seems to drive him crazy. In 25+ years on TER, I've never seen anyone have such a hardon for me. I keep trying to tell him he's not my type.

you get your arm torn off, like this cheapshot lie on the link below you posted on the Regional board.  I came back and called you out, and got nothing but crickets from you as you went crying home.  When you come out of the blue and attack someone, don't you think you are going to get hit back?  You are such a phony tool.  

Do as you wish, I’m not going to argue or tell you that you are wrong.

sophisticated guy.  How many hotels or restaurants have you been to where they add a service charge to the bill and DON'T TELL YOU?  If you look at your restaurant check, if the tip is mandated, it will be a line item on the bill that is plainly stated.  (In the cases where a tip is required, it's not really a tip, it's a service charge and is often stated as such, but it's NEVER a secret, it's always disclosed.)  You don't have to guess if they are doing it or not.  Hickster wants us to believe that providers are actually adding the tip themselves within their rate structure so he doesn't feel he needs to add anything on top of the posted rate.  Are you REALLY buying this, i.e., that HE believes that providers are packing an additional fee for a tip into their posted rate?  Only a moron would assume that it's the same as a restaurant where they show it on the bill.  You know the difference.  You should be calling him out, too.  Put your bias aside, Steve, and let bygones be bygones.  

But what if you're 71 year old decrepit guy like me? Isn't a tip recommended? After all, I'm making the lady put up with my disgustingness!

Who said anything about thinking you're gonna get better treatment if you tip? Or that you end up being special to the ladies?

agree.  Nothing makes you feel warmer than seeing the positive reactions to generous tipping.  Usually, it's not expected, but they will remember you the next time they see you and will give you a better experience knowing you are a tipper, whether it's a sommelier, a provider, or the shoe-shine guy.  

Read the very first response you got by coeur-de-lion .

experienced any downside to not tipping is because it doesn't look like you see Kgirls, whereas Kgirls (including Thai and Japanese agency girls) make up about 85-90% of the ladies I see.  Even a staunch non-tipper like Helixir says he tips Kgirls because he believes they are underpaid to begin with.  I applaud him for recognizing that.  

deserve the tips I give them, and they appreciate it. A lot!

If the lady goes over and above what I was expecting then I will leave a tip.  I will also leave a tip if I’m the end her rate should have been higher based on performance.  I have told a few ladies that they should be charging more. I usually have enough cash on me to cover a $100-$200 tip if need be.  

Those who choose to keep an open mind should look at it this way, Firstly, Providers, if you feel that you deserve a tip, then factor it into your donation, and if your bookings go down then you have your answer.  
Hobbyists, I'll put it this way that a golfer will understand. On a golfing trip to Scotland you must retain the services of a professional caddie, and they are to be the best when it comes to the game, they know how to guide a golfer of various skill sets to perform at their optimum level and if the player truly enjoyed their round then a gratuity will be given.. But, if it was a terrible round, or even a mediocre one then the base fee is in order...  

Well, the tip is given after you've done the deed, so there's no need for caution anymore at that point.

As far as tips, what is the best strategy?

Endorse 100%!

I almost always arrive freshly showered.

Why? This is a pretty bold statement and you didn't include a particular reason.

Agreed CDL.....

I must not have actually read your post when first posted. Clearly not about should you or shouldn't you tip or benefit or no benefit to tipping.  

Endorse 100%!  I've never tipped a provider who asked for one, nor have I ever repeated with a provider who begs for a tip or upsells. It's really bad business in my opinion.

When SoCal had the "Russian Invasion" many years ago, the whole business model was predicated on the upsell.  A low price similar to Kgirls was advertised, and then once you arrived, everything that is included by Kgirls was an additional charge.  The $250 ad price quickly escalated to $400-$450.  After one to two years, local mongers rejected this business approach.  

I don't tip. The reason being is this hobby is expensive enough. I hire at least one provider a week and pay anywhere from $300 to $1000+. I don't make $600 per hour. I make a $150 per day. I am not a rich man, I am a working man. To each his own who pays the tips but providers are all over the map with pricing and it just seems like one big money grab. They will have an intro rate then have a "preferred minimum" rate which is not "preferred" but mandatory for the client. Or they'll have a "Tour Rate" and then tell you on their website to "add $200" for an incall rate, leaving the client confused on what the rate actually is. No tips. Repeating with a provider is enough for me.  

I usually don't tip preferring instead to bring presents that I consider interesting to dates. It usually serves well to break the ice.  
If there is a next time (let alone the times after) those presents get more elaborate. Usually I don't carry more than $20 of cash with me anyway.  

A rather impolite reaction even it a $20 tip is pretty meaningless. You should have suggested they return your small token of appreciation and see what they  had to say.

Maybe you can explain.  How does NOT tipping make you look any less cheap than tipping $20.00?  SMH.  

I just looked in my wallet, pulled out what I found there, and said "here is a little more for you" or something like that.  

carry only $20 walking-around money with you?   That seems like a recipe for trouble if something unexpected should occur in your daily life.  Not everybody takes a credit card.  I won't even go the bathroom with only $20 in my pocket.  You should always carry at least a few hundred dollars, or more, in cash.  You never know when opportunity will knock, and you don't want to miss that rare opportunity to buy a genuine Rolex from the guy on the street corner for $100.  Lol

I hope you eat a high fiber diet so you don't run out before you're thoroughly clean.

I don't take a $20 bill, I take twenty one-dollar bills.  

It's pretty rude and cringe for anyone to turn their nose up at a tip you voluntarily put up with good intentions.

I'm more than happy to tip, and usually will slip a provider an extra $50 on her way out if she provided even just a better than average session.  I stopped seeing one of my all time favorites in Vegas because she started asking for $25 for Uber when she was leaving.  It just seemed completely unprofessional and she ended up unnecessarily losing a very loyal customer.  

Thats the point. Tips are optional show of gratitude from buyer to a seller.