I was browsing today and a lady says she does not service one particular race out of all the races on the planet, but she is not racist.

How you can you be not opposed to something, but go out of your to avoid it. Are they trying to fool us or themselves? I have heard similar talk about women, older people and so on, and an example of what I hear is below.
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Business owner: I don't fix PC's for people under 4'11.
Customer: You don't like short people?
Business owner: I don't have anything against them. I just really really prefer to not have to deal with them.
Customer: Let me get this right. You don't have anything against short people, but if one walks in with a couple of hundred dollars you won't take it?
Business owner: Correct.



Can someone explain this to me?

People have types. I was on a swinging site a while back and a couple stated they weren't interested in Asians ... and that it was nothing racist, just a matter of preference. I'm of Latin heritage and I get all sorts of attention from white gals and Jewish gals and Italians ... but Asian girls, who I find crazy cute, don't seem to have a thing for me. I don't lose any sleep over it.

And speaking of short, I'm 5'7" and I tend to go for petite women. If a girl is 5'8" on up, for obvious reasons, I'm just not that attracted to her.

just my .02

By definition singling one race out for whatever reason qualifies one as being "racist" but lets not confuse that with being prejudice.  

I have never dated nor would I likely use a provider from one particular racial/ethnic group, it's personnal preference.  I have the exact same feeling toward providers with a particular hair color as well as skin tone.  BUT, I am the furthest from being prejudiced toward people of that color skin or hair.  

Then again...I am crazy about woman of another racial/ethnic background so if I lose points for having a racial bias I guess I gain them back for liking another one?

You are particular!  To each his own!

May leave you to miss out on some of the best experiences. The same particular hair color or skin tone, tall person, short person, big person, skinny person, ect. just might be the person that can give you the most greatest experience but you'll never know because of your thinking. I second that motion, to each his own.

But I could care less what the skin color or race is IF he's respectful.

"So many men, so litle time" but I'm working on that.

Happy Hobbying!

Your Very Naughty Girlfriend,
Anneke

I won't see a lady unless she's super hot...BTW Khori...when are ya gonna be in DC again?

Bottom line, a woman is alone with a man and needs to feel safe and comfortable. Or there is no chemistry and that would make for a very uncomfortable session all round. For whatever reasons, her personal experience in the past, may color her decision to see or not to see a man of a particular race. Right or wrong, it is her choice.

Same as it's a gentleman's choice to choose the type of provider he sees, which includes his choice/prejudices/attraction to either height, weight,age,hair color,price point and services offered.

The difference here is a provider can announce to the world her preferences and hobbyists don't, but the guys are as choosy/racist/prejudiced as the ladies...only nothing is in print as evidence of that. The guys have the right to choose, and so do the ladies.

I fully realize that it can be hurtful, however think of it this way, at least you know upfront because she has the balls to place that on her site, therefore not wasting your time in booking and then being turned away at the door.

Seriously, what would you prefer? In a perfect world everyone with cash in hand would be seen by their choice of lady. Guess what, not a perfect world and cash is not the only thing that will get you an appointment.

Bottom line this is not like other businesses...there is a huge safety element in this one that is not necessarily there with public run businesses.

I am sorry if you felt slighted by her choices...there will be plenty of ladies that will welcome you with open arms...

Racism is the notion that one race is superior to another.  The term is misused all the time.  There is a big, big difference between racism and preferences.

Also, suppose I seek out brown eyed women.  Does that necessarily mean I'm "racist" against all other types?  Of course not!

We all have our preferences and I see nothing wrong with seeking out those people with whom we will have the most pleasure.  

Tossing racism into the conversation is counter productive and there is no way it can be properly discussed on a board such as this.  Everyone will go running for their aliases and those who don't are going to be very guarded in there conversations.

This isn't the place for it.

My position is its hers to sell to whomever she wants, when she wants. But to decry that she is not a racist is like saying she's not a prostitute. We all have preferences and dislikes. People are fearful of others based on lots of parameters. If she is singling out a particular race out of fear it's likely because of her upbringing or perhaps a man of said race kicked her ass or she's afraid of something really stupid, but very real to her. Unless she qualifies the statement. She'll have to live with the perception it creates regardless of whether its true.

The most important aspect of this business is for the provider to be comfortable with seeing you. If she is not, for whatever reason, the client ultimately will bear the brunt of her displeasure and the session will not be one to repeat.

To that end, a provider has to make certain choices about whom she wishes to see. She only wants to see certain gentleman who she feels she will connect with. Connection leads to chemistry which leads to great sessions. Some ladies, as your post indicates, do not wish to see men of a certain race. Some ladies do not wish to see men under the age of 35. Some ladies do not wish to see men who do not provide 2 references and employment information. Some ladies will not see any men who can not afford $1,000 for the hour. Some ladies will not see any men who write negative reviews. Some ladies will not see men who do not contact her at least 48 hours in advance. Etc. Etc.

If a lady is simply not attracted to a particular race, is DOES NOT make her a racist. It makes her someone who wants to provide as best a service as she can to her clients, and feels that seeing gentleman of that race will not afford her the opportunity to do so. As a hobbyist you CAN NOT be offended by her choice. Don't be angry with the lady. The provider's comfort level is paramount. The hobbyist must do everything to insure that the lady is comfortable throughout the entire process. If it means that you can not see a lady because of your race or your age, although it may be frustrating, you MUST respect her desires and move on. There are plenty of ladies who will be delighted to see you.          

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Agreed. It is a very personal subject when ones "person" is on the line and you're right, things can/could get very nasty on a forum such as this.

It's a matter of preference, me for example I do not find overweight woman attractive now just because of that does not mean I hate or am disgusted about them. It only mean that I have no interest in them and would not date them or have a romantic relationship with them. Just because a provider does not want to see a particular race does not mean she is racist, it might mean one of two things either she had a bad experience numerous times with that particular race or they really do not turn her on. I saw a black provider that do not see black men and the reason was she did not find them attractive, I also seen a polish provider that do not see polish men and she has her reasons, all in all is a matter of preference. I do not think she is trying to fool anyone.

You are totally right on this because we the hobbyist can and do chose. I prefer to know if the provider do accept a particular race or even type of men, this would make it easier for me to chose her or move on to the next in line.

there are certain ladies from certain groups you are not attracted to, and do not partake in their services....racist????  No!  Preference is not racist!  They don't hate any particular group, but have had problems in the past.
Example:  I personally know an ebony provider who will NOT see black men.  Is she a racist hater of her own kind?  No!  in HER words, She had had her fill of being treated badly, guys noy even talking to her, just wanting her naked and working her hard for the entire visit, then being shorted.  This happened often enough to her that she just decided to stop seeing them all together.

This is a different business than your PC fix it shop.  It's not a legal business, it does not have to comply with the civil rights act....it is a very personal business with real dangers to the ladies involved.  If they feel stressed seeing ANYONE, it is not worth the money they will make.

Is this a WK post  NO...I certainly am not that....This is a "Fed up with everything is racism" post.  It's just wearing thin, and the groups that constantly scream it, are usually very racist themselves.  Enuff Already!!!!

Ethnopreference is widely accepted in our society. Such organizations as La Raza, the NAACP and B'nai B'rith have crystal clear objectives hinging on ethnopreference; and are not merely accepted by our society, but also even receive taxpayer funding for their work.

That doesn't include the wide variety of Polish, Italian, Scottish and other ethnicity-specific clubs and fraternal organizations -- all of which are accorded tax-exempt status under our laws.

In colleges across the country, there are race-specific student unions from which persons of European ancestry are either explicitly or implicitly excluded.

Obviously, ethnopreference is an accepted, celebrated, and even taxpayer-funded aspect of our culture that is distinct from racism. Racism is, indeed, a belief in the superiority of one race over another.

There is no doubt that in anything that is ethnically exclusive; people who are excluded could feel badly about being excluded; particularly if that exclusion is pointed out to them.

But this is no different from being excluded from Mensa. Most people never think about it. But if they were plopped into a social milieu in which everyone else had membership in Mensa in common, they'd feel less-than-included.

I could just imagine the uproar if a provider put on her website that she would only see men who could produce a membership card for Mensa. (Of course, that would be bad business as 99% of the population isn't eligible for membership. So she'd go broke in short order. But play along.) Many who were excluded would see their exclusion as arbitrary and unjust.

Providing IS a business, and it also is NOT a business.

It is a business in terms that a transaction is negotiated between a buyer and seller in the free market.

But it is NOT a business in the sense that what is being dealt with is intensely personal and intimate to such a degree that rules that would apply to other public accomodations, if applied to providers, could result in extreme injustices.

Just imagine the following scenario.

A man wants sex with a woman. She says "No -- no way, not under any circumstances, not even for money."

If he has sex with her anyway, what is that called? Rape.

Pretend that prostitution is legalized. Pretend further that it is subjected to laws similar to hotels -- i.e. prostitutes are a "public accomodation" and thus cannot deny service based upon race, ethnicity, religion, sexual preference, handicapped status, etc.

Now I'm going to make the rest of this EXTREMELY PC.

Pretend a woman is raised in a religion such that she believes it is wrong for her to have sex with someone not of her religion. (Probably, prostitution is wrong, too, in that religion. But let's neglect that because people tend to be very 'cafeteria' about adoption of the morals of their professed religions.)

She starts providing in a largely monoethnic locale where all of her customers share her religion.

Suddenly, a guy shows up on her doorstep of a different religion. She denies him service. He complains. A government bureaucrat explains to her that unless she fucks him, she will lose everything she has worked all her life to achieve.

Do you know what that is called? It's still rape -- at least in an ethical sense.

While the various validities of ethnopreference are certainly debatable; what is not debatable as far as I am concerned is a woman's right to establish the terms under which access to her body is granted.

So in a hierarchy of values; in which one must choose between women being forced to have sex with men they don't want to or some men being inconvenienced by having to seek a provider who will see them; I would see the accomodation of ethnopreference as the lesser of evils.

Notice I didn't say "good." I said a lesser of evils.

Sometimes, in this world, choices must be made that way.

I think people have decided that racism doesn't exist anymore, and that it's just preference.

If you don't like Asians, its just preference
If you don't like African-American's, its just preference
If you don't like people of color in general, you are not a racist, its just your preference.

I have to say that sounds crazy to me, there is a reason why it is your preference, and that reason is racist

Let me give a couple of examples:

"I don't see Hispanic men because they all..."
"I don't see Black me because black men all...:

Do you see where i am going with this?

And have you ever seen an ad or website that stated "No white men", i am positive that no one has. There is a reason that no ones preference is against white men, but that is a long history that i wont go in to here.

My point is, if you don't like someone solely because of their race, it is racist, not preference.

Not long ago there was a very well reviewed lady, who is also a fairly "high end" lady who placed a very sexy ad on a local board.  Right under that ad she placed another post.

"I don't like cheese with my hot dogs, uncircumcised men need not call"

Does this mean that all uncircumcised men doe not take care of the nastiness that can accumulate under the foreskin?  Nope!  But she must have had enough of them that she's excluded them from her
list of men she will see.

It's often a comfort zone issue, and not an exclusion just because of race, creed, or religion!

So put that deck of "race cards" away.  People are getting tired of playing that game!

I believe that race isn't nearly as important as it was 50 years ago but it is absolutely important.

I know no one wants to talk about race, and we would all like to forget that race divided us for centuries, and that is just preference.

The question is, why would you feel uncomfortable seeing a person because they don't have the right skin tone. Is that not racist?

"I don't see people with darker skin because those dang darker skinned people are always...."
Its racist, even if we want to make it pc by calling it preference.

I think people of color cant put the deck of "race cards" away because the game is played by others too often. And to make it seem a little better, they call it preference, but what it really is, is a softer form of racist thoughts and opinions.

"How you can you be not opposed to something, but go out of your to avoid it." Is that your question? Simple! If I'm buying flowers, I'll will never order carnations. I'm not opposed to them, but I will avoid them. I will likely order roses, tulips or Orchids. We all have discriminating tastes. So do you. Just because a woman is in business doesn't mean she has to give that up. I know all sorts of professionals from various different professions, and many of them refuse to take certain clientele, and they are very aware of the reasons why. Oh, by to way, go as a waitress or waiter who they prefer to see, or not see seated at their table, and ask him/her why.

Oh, was that really a conversation you overheard, or a hypothetical example? It sounds bogus to me.

..."But she must have had enough of them that she's excluded them from her
list of men she will see."...

A very valid reason to avoid, if in fact this was the case.


I believe she would be called out as a "foreskin bigot" mostly by those who have been refused service or covered service.

And I'm almost certain these men have their own "preferences" or bigotry (size, age, services) and would avoid someone they did not find suitable for whatever their personal reason/s were/are.

khori,

I'm not really picky at all.  But, I have a preference toward long hair over short, dark hair over light, and olive skin over a pale complexion.  If I'm "shopping" for a provider I would chose based on my personal preference.  To the point of the post, that shows I have a preference not a prejudice.

But, interestingly enough, my preferences seem to match your physical description to a "T"....hhhmmm  makes one wonder.....

now i will agree with you that there are those who are clearly racist who use the term "preference" to justify their bigotry and ignorance...for example, anyone who generalizes people based on ethnicity, age, gender, or anything else.

but for many of us our preferences are not based on silly generalizations or stereotypes. sometimes it's about nothing more than one's personal comfort level and the chemistry between two people. although in my 20s, i will not have sex with men in their 20s, in or out of the hobby. this is not because i think "all 20something men are..." it is because i am only comfortable sexually with men significantly older than myself. it is the way i have always been. now on a social level or even intellectual level, i have gotten along great with many men my own age. but there is zero sexual chemistry, and never could be.

it can be much the same with race. if someone has not been exposed to a wide variety of ethnicities and cultures throughout their life, then it may be difficult for them to develop a sense of comfort with people from different ethnic backgrounds. or perhaps it can be purely superficial, and they may be only physically attracted to very specific types which would exclude certain ethnicities. the person in either scenario is not a racist, they just have a natural preference.

i happen to have preferences of my own relating to race, or more specifically culture...i prefer not to see african-american men. my preference is for white men, asian men, and black men raised in the west indies or africa. this is because it has been my experience that men of these cultures (within my preferred age range, which is 40+) are more comfortable with and appreciative of a black submissive woman. that is all. i have zero physical preference for men of any skin color, with any particular hair type, etc.

When applying at Verizon, National Grid, Bay State Gas, etc., I was (literally) told by current/ex-employees not to bother to apply because I am a white male.
Any other ethnicity/sex, I would have been welcomed immediately with open arms.

*The one who told me about the tel co was my aunt who was No 2 (VP) in New England for 20+ years and 54 years total w/ company.
She tried for years to get my brothers/myself employed, but was rebuffed at every turn due to our race/sex.
And as far as qualifications, I have 25+ years in low-voltage wiring design/installation and that ranks me last when compared to my brothers.

Racism/sexism is alive and well in corporate America; just may not be what you think upon first look.

politically incorrect PREFERENCES we call "racism" or "sexism".

That's a bunch of shit. I don't need the nanny state or a bunch of liberal faggots telling me what to think.

I like nailing ebony ladies just fine. But if any of them does not want to see a white guy I have no problem with that.

It's her ass. I say she gets to sell it to whomever she pleases.

The whole problem with our fucking society today is that we are trainging people to believe that they (and everyone else) is ENTITLED.

Fuck that.

It leads to a bunch of weak whiny inadequate whiners.

We don't need more. We're stocked up already.

If prostitution was legalized, no bureaucrat is going to "force" women to fu*k people they don't want to fu*k.

What they WILL say is that IF YOU ADVERTISE TO THE PUBLIC, then you cannot discriminate against members of the public. And if you advertise to the public, but then discriminate, there will be financial repercussions to your actions.

Nothing about prostitution will override fundamental laws and the general "tone" of this country, that racial discrimination is wrong. Prostitutes will not get a "free pass" to discriminate.

And this whole argument about "preferences" is another BS discussion. Unless the provider doesn't see anyone unless they look as good as Brad Pitt, the entire concept of "preferences" goes out the window. No provider goes into this business assuming every man she meets will be her type.

if a woman is an escort, that means her body is a public commodity to be used by whoever pays the entrance fee?? do you realize how deplorable, unethical, callous, and just plain sick that sounds?

"If prostitution was legalized, no bureaucrat is going to "force" women to fu*k people they don't want to fu*k."

And then:
"And if you advertise to the public, but then discriminate, there will be financial repercussions to your actions."

Yes, it is called a fine. Imposed by those bureaucrats.

And what happens if you don't pay the fine?

People with guns show up and escort you to prison for failure to pay it.

What happens if you strenuously resist the people with guns?

You get shot.

THAT, like it or not, is FORCE.

Look, we don't disagree in principle that businesses ought not discriminate on the basis of things (such as race/sex/age) over which people have no control.

And prostitution is most assuredly a business.

However, unlike other businesses, a woman's body, mind and emotions are involved.

Using government force to make me rent someone a room or serve someone a meal at a restaurant doesn't harm me. It takes away some of my choices, but it doesn't force me to give them a big sloppy kiss.

But in prostitution the woman DOES give the customer a big sloppy kiss. Even a blowjob. Even swallows his semen. And more.

I'm sorry, but a woman's person is sacrosanct. No matter how misguided her beliefs may be; the moment government force is applied to make her fuck someone; that is proof we have made a seriously wrong turn.

Again, given the choice between government sanctioned involuntary sex on a large scale and being inconvenienced by bigoted preferences; I'll choose to be inconvenienced.

The free market will rule in the end.

Providers are in business to make money. Turning away paying customers is stupid. Ultimately, providers who make money thrive; while those who make no money will fail.

Misapplied ethnopreferences will simply remove providers from the market in the long run -- WITHOUT need for government sanctioned involuntary sex.

Yes, its THAT simple!

"My point is, if you don't like someone solely because of their race, it is racist, not preference."

Perhaps! But if I don't see someone, not because I don't like their race, but prefer someone of a different race, that is personal preference. And, if I'm not saying, "I'm not seeing so and so because all (race) are like...," but seeing someone of a different race because I find her attractive, that is not racism. You are painting those who are claiming personal preferences with a very broad stroke and brush, and putting words in their mouths.

I hope I haven't offended anyone

it is preference if you aren't excluded and it is prejudice when u are excluded. Since when are all girls attracted to ALL their clients?

Racism is the belief that your race is superior to all other races.

A sexual preference is not racism. People are turned on and turned off by many many things and this particular lady has learned for herself that she cannot get into a sexual mood with a certain visual look to someone. So what? It is her decision on how she wants to run her business, so what business is it of yours? Who the hell are you to tell other people how to think, feel, or conduct their lives?

b-

Nope..you like what you like.

Fair enough...I'd like to do a little experiment. Anyone of any race, age, size etc call me and come see me. In order for me to feel comfortable and to ensure that my boundaries are not pushed, I am not hurt, disrespected etc, I will have a security guard at my in call, in the damn room with the two of us. Then, one wrong move and out the door.

How comfortable does that sound...sort of like a bouncer at a night club..removing the unwanted, loud, drunk and otherwise unsavory from the area.

So, no-one is refused business, and the escort's safety is assured. But the rates would go up to pay for the security guard.

If you had your way, this is how the business would end up...because there would be little protection for those women who would have to see everyone who had the bucks. Be careful what you wish for.

Of course I had to add to it.

Preferrence is not racism.


Did you all really think I was going to pass up a thread with 'Racism" within the headline? Bitch please

What does the escort's "safety" have to do with the race of clients she sees?

Of course I want my escorts to feel safe. Does this imply that those ladies that see all races are "less safe" than those who discriminate?

You guys are out of your minds!

The guys say the girls discriminate because "they're not attracted to others." As if the providers are attracted to every hobbyist out there.

It's got nothing to do with attraction - if a provider had to be attracted to a client in order to perform, there wouldn't BE a hobby.

ditto.

slurring the line but hey each to his/her own

maybe you can complain to
http://www.eeoc.gov/

:P lol

Listen carefully...safety does not only mean physical....it can mean...oh what's the point, you'll never understand because you are so stuck on race because you have been rejected that no explanation will satisfy you.

Bottom line I don't give a rats ass what anyone else thinks about who I see. I see who I want and if that excludes a few...my business, not anyone elses.

Yes I discriminate/choose or whatever word you want to use on these levels, attitude, cultural/ethnic attitude towards women, age, dick size, level of arrogance and a few more.

My business is great and I feel safe and comfortable and can let my guard down and actually enjoy myself and make my clients feel wanted. cared about and desired. That could not happen if I was , made to see every damn man that wanted an appointment because I have personal preferences and have the right to exercise them.

You, I would never see (yeah, yeah you'd never see me either) not because you're black but because of your attitude. Escorts are not commodities, we are human beings and this exchange of fees for companionship is out there all by itself in the business world. Some things just do not apply.

I'll use an analogy to explain why this is very simple.

I like chocolate ice cream.  I have nothing against other flavors, and know that other people prefer them.  But, I like chocolate ice cream and will always choose chocolate ice cream (or variants of it like Rocky Road).  If you put a dish with 10 scoops of Cherry Garcia in front of me and tell me it's free, i still won't eat it.  I don't like Cherry Garcia - I like chocolate.  You can have the Cherry Garcia.

So, why can't my choice of cars, movies, women or anything else be the same way?  I have a preference.  I don't hate other varieties or colors or flavors, and I have nothing against those who prefer something other than my choices.  But, my choice is my choice.  And if I choose to ignore all the Cherry Garcia ice cream on the planet, why can't I?

It's not prejudice.  It's preference.

It's really very simple.

There really is no reason to need to explain yourself as to why you don't see certain people.

I don't see fat broads, I don't see old broads, I don't see providers that just aren't attractive "TO ME".  I don't really give a fuck if that upsets some of the ubersensitive people hers.

What sets me apart from some of the other assholes on this board is that I extend that same right to others. If a provider doesn't want to see me because my eyes slant, I am too old, I am too young, I am an asshole on the boards, etc. That's her right, and rather than whine about it, I respect her right to have sex with only those men (or women) that she chooses to.

Why anyone would want to have sex with someone that is repulsed by, or scared, or for any other reason not wanting to be there, is beyond me.

PittPanther. U are right. This has nothing to do with attraction. Anyone who thinks that these girls are attracted to all their clients of a specific race is clearly naive.

I am shorter than you, but if I got paid to "play" with a tall lady I would probably do it.

I will also add I got a PM from a provider that put the issue in a better light, but I still think most of the time its racism.

Hair?? You are picker than me when it comes to food. It is all good though.

I don't mind if she says race X is not permitted to be a customer. I just felt the excuse did not make sense at the time I made the post. Some people( not anyone in this thread) does see a difference between bias and racism. I think the line between them is in a different spot depending on how you view the two words though.

I guess I need to decide at what point does one cross over from being "bias against  _____" to being racist/sexist/etc.

I did not use an alias. If I were a provider I might since it could affect business,and I understand if other people do. I only use my alias to ask noob questions currently.

PS: If you wait for the proper time and place for something you might be waiting for a long time.

You can be racist against your own race. I know blacks the look down on other blacks, and white people that only hang out with black people. It never made sense to me, but that does not change the fact that it exist.

...but if you don't have anything against that race then why cut them off. I can prefer trout, but still eat flounder. Why does my preference for trout have to do away with flounder if flounder is all that is available for the day?

Except for THOSE people (anyone different from me in anyway or to any degree, however slight), I am a warm and loving human being...

of trout??? You're arguing from within a hypothetical bubble. Making a choice for someone is not always making a choice against someone. It's really just that simple.

Dude.  Seriously, you're going to get defensive over this?  You're not entitled to have everyone love you.  Maybe she's had bad experiences.  Maybe she just doesnt like black/white/asian dicks.  

I saw one provider on this site, who was Korean, who specifically said "no Korean dudes", so I guess she's a self hating Korean racist.

Sex for money isnt fixing PC's.  Dont be so damn insecure.

Doesn't that statement usually get followed up with "Don't get me wrong, some of my best friends are black/Jewish/Mexican (insert your favorite ethnic group here)"? Hypocrisy at its finest.

:::meow::::    lol!

I'll be back...Watch out STP!  haha!  

the man HAS to have a penis...that's the ONLY thing I require with a man....oh and a spine....



Race is not important...as long as it's a MAN!  


LOL!  


I crack myself up tonight!  


 oxoxxo

The comparison to the simple business transaction (PC repair) isn't valid, as what we are contemplating is an intimate act. Aside from any potential commercial aspects of the transaction, she is still letting someone into her life on a very intimate and vulnerable basis.

My preferences may make no difference to the next hobbyist, but that's the beauty of this arena. Do a little more research, find a match for your preferences that intersect with her preferences. You'll both be more comfortable and have a better experience.

For example, you assume that a man is more likely to be violent because he is black.

How about reading ALL of my post then replying. I was never really upset. I just felt like she was lying and trying to cover it up basically. I have been to other sites that said they wont service certain people based on size also, but they did not try to talk around it. If you dont service fat, people, black people, people with penis over X size, those under or over a certain age, and so on that is up to you. Just be real about it.

Intimacy involves feelings. Once you start to have sex for money it becomes a business transaction.
If you let me into your house to fix your PC or let me in to have sex you are in the same degree of danger. If danger is not what you meant by vulnerable then I misunderstood.  

Now I know some ladies have to put themselves in the mood, but its no different than me putting myself in a state of mind to fix an annoying PC. It is a different state of mind or focus, but it is not as different as people think it is.
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I have no desire to see the lady. I ended up at her site because her pictures on another site were not clear. I went to the preference/rules(I dont remember exactly what it was called) and that is where I saw the comment. She also had comments on other things she did not like, but the race thing was right at the top, ahead of the others which could cause pain if I recall correctly.

Yes this was called by a racial incident, but you could replace it with age or sex, and I would not see a difference.
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Bob: Bill you get 25 dollars an hour to do job X
Sue we will only pay you 21 dollars even though you are as qualified as Bill. You are a woman, and to stop any hard feelings before they begin I would like for you to know we don't have anything against women in Random Corporation Inc.
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Bob may have had cases where women did not work as hard to get ahead, so this grudge may be the reason why he did not want to pay Sue as much. People may understand Bob, but to say he is not sexist is something I can't see. That is why I the title of the post is racial/sexist/etc. It was not just about race. It was about any similar situation, and I wanted to see opinions on it.  

PS: I am just realizing I was so annoyed I did not put racist in the opening title.

Let me gues she didn't want to see black guys...I say that because i've never seen anyone say NO -anything else- , doesn't sound right but it is possible to not be opposed to or care for something and go out of your way to avoid it. I do that to seafood lol.

*smacks self on the forehead* lol that's what I was trying to explain in my first uh response to this..... pretty much there's a difference in being racist or prejudice.  People would get through better in like just keeping it moving by realizing you won't be everyone's cup o' tea.

lol...

For disrespectful guya i'm one step further i'm straight up "racist" to them lol.

So you like seafood, but you avoid it, or are you saying you would rather not have seafood, but don't necessarily dislike it kind of like how I will eat corn, but it is never my first choice.

To avoid something that does not matter makes no sense. Not caring to me means I am completely neutral. If most people are perfectly neutral and you give them a reason to deal with it they will.


This still did not come out right.

If I dont care about something, but you give me a reason to support I just moved to the pro side.
If I dont care for something, you give me a reason to support it, and I still say not it only makes sense that there must be a negative that at least counters the positive.

Now maybe business is so good she can choose to only have sex with people she is attracted too, but since attraction was not a limiting factor according to the site I doubt that is it.

Not caring for something equals neutral for the sake of this discussion.