There was a recent thread where an escort filming with a provider was discussed. If I recall, both clients filming without permission and how she handles it when there is permission was brought up. This reminded me of a situation that happened when I was newer to seeing escorts. It made we wonder, has anyone else had a similar experience?

 
Anyway, I found this escort. This was before I knew about TER. I did the best research I could using Google. I found enough to believe she was real. After contacting me, she convinced me to book 90 minutes instead of an hour. She was supposed to come to my hotel. Shortly after, she called back and asked if I would come to her, we would make a date night out of it, no clock watching, and she wouldn't charge me more than the 90 minutes. This was an easy yes for me.

 
The date went fine. It was cool to get to know each other. At one point she shared she had a client that would pay good money to watch her have sex. I was at a conference and from out of town, and she commented that it was too bad I wasn't a local. I didn't really make much from this conversation at the time, but in looking back I probably should have. But, I was both less experienced and thinking with my Jimmy head.

 
We get back to her place, and she is a talker. She has a lot to say. I'm being polite, but I am also thinking when are we going to get it on. Every time I make a move, she seems to pull away, bounce up, go to the bathroom, or something else.

 
Anyway, we're on her bed. She has her laptop out and is playing around with music. At this point, it's getting pretty late. But she keeps talking and I keep hoping the action will start. I don't really recall exactly how much time had passed. But all of sudden she comes towards me all hot, and says, "I'm ready to have sex with you." We kiss, she BBBJs, and we fuck. Interestingly, she wants me to fuck her sideways from behind and holds her leg up while I fuck her. Furthemore, she tells me to go raw.

 
The entire time this was happening, her laptop was sitting there on the bed pointed right at us. In the heat of the moment I thought nothing of it. After I finished, I layed up on the bed. Instead of laying with me, she returned to the laptop. It wasn't until well after the fact, it dawned on me. I can't prove it, but I think she fired up this guy on the laptop who said he would pay her good money to watch her have sex with another guy. The details I know add up to it.

 
In retropect, who gives a guy an entire night at their 90 minute rate? I wasn't a returner or someone she built a connection with from previous meetings. This was our first meeting. And, why all of the delay tactics? And, what was up with the laptop? And, why the porn like position that was the ideal view if there was a camera from the laptop? And, to top this all off, she gave me $100 back at the end to cover my Ubers. She insisted on it. Who does this?

 
Has anyone, as a client, ever experienced, or think you have, being filmed or live streamed by a provider unknowingly?

Either this is fake, or you happened upon the most desperate provider in the business.  Ask the providers here how many have EVER suggested OTC time before even meeting the customer.  Granted, if the connection is good and she has no other appointments booked that day, if the session is going well, then she may suggest you stay another half hour longer than what you booked.  Many providers give their regulars OTC time now and then, but I have never read a review (and I have read thousands) or heard of another instance where a provider suggested before the session even starts that the duration should go beyond the time that was booked.  If this is so patently false, what else is fake in your story?

 
To top it off, you "think" you were videotaped without your permission.  That's your narcissism weighing in.  But your headline states it as a fact, even though you admit you can't prove it.  Here you are, the guy who is so paranoid, you won't show any reviews under ANY alias, and you let someone videotape you having sex?  You did nothing while you thought she might be sending your likeness to another person?  Have you no situational awareness when you are seeing a new provider for the first time at her place?  If it wasn't so sad that you get off on trolling the entire board, this might be something we could have a good chuckle over.  In your last paragraph, you admit how preposterous all of this sounds, but still try to sell your conclusion, "so, it must be true."  

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Her letting you go raw, full night for price of 90 minutes, is definitely a bit sus.

However there is a possibility she was just feeling like it.

 What year was it? The thing about laptop Webcams...if it was awhile back some of those are pretty bad at filming stuff in background.

Let's put it this way, if someone wanted to film a video without you knowing, wouldn't they want

1) to make a good quality recording
2) to not make it super obvious

 
Typically guys who do this (I'm not condoning them BTW) use hidden cams and quality often is garbo.

 
So using a laptop shitty cam to record during the night (you said it was late so you'd need really good lighting for the cam to do work) or even stream (another reason as to how recent this happened) is kinda not ideal. But then maybe that client didn't care and just wanted to get off on grainy quality vid.

 
I'll say video recording of sex and posting it anywhere without your consent is punishable by law in many states, so at the end the impact on you is probably low. Although undesirable understandably to ever get on the internet like that.

At the end of the day if the video never got on the internet, I don't think it's a terrible deal. You got bb, overnight date and what sounds like a fun session. Yes, I would want to know if I'm being filmed and would be upset at the moment. If I learn bout it later and have a guarantee it isn't showing up on the 'net I would warn others but to me it wouldn't be a huge deal. But again obviously ymmv.  

 

I frequent Asian joints, and I know some of them have cameras in the bedroom even though they don't like talking about it. So I figure I was filmed at some point. Def cameras in living room for safety reasons.

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Of course you go right to it being fake. Just because it didn’t happen to YOU doesn’t make it fake. FWIW, she’s on TER, reviewed, and her reviews show she has done the longer thing with other guys, not just me. One guy put it this way, which is that she seems to continue to escort for the social part more than the money part. She makes enough money to live fine without escorting. That said, I learned this all years after my experience. As I said, I wasn’t on TER when this happened with me.

 
Given the other details I mentioned, I’m not outing her in this thread. For someone who isn’t a dipshit like you, I will be happy to share it in a PM.

 
As for the video part, I made it very clear I cannot prove it. So there is some doubt. I also explained why I think she did it though. But of course it’s not a fact. And, my headline doesn’t state it as a fact. That’s you twisting it to your liking so you can justify shitting on me. You’re such as asshole.

 
As I previously stated, this was well before I had more experience. Well before I was on TER. I was younger, more timid, and more naive. She was hot af and I wanted to have sex with her. So yes, I had some blinders on.

 
Look CDLOL, I know you love to follow me around, troll me, and simply be the asshole that you are. So have your fun and continue to be the Village Idiot of the board. Anyone who’s not an asshole, feel free to PM me.

I’m not 100% sure of the year, but it was somewhere around 2008-2010. If I dig around enough, I could probably narrow it down. And I’m more thinking it was a live stream than recording. If she was recording, no reason to delay it so much. I assume if I’m right, she was waiting to get the guy on so he can watch. But it’s also entirely possible I’m putting the pieces of a puzzle together that’s not really the puzzle I think it is. I only have suspicions. The entire night was a bit wild.

I don't see it happening my dude. She'd have to know a thing or hundred as livestreaming was in its infancy.

 
I don't think twitch was even a thing, it was still JustintV and JustinTV started in 2007.

 
Like literally it's not like nowadays where everyone and their moms crotch can stream by going on YouTube or insta.

Upload speeds of hotel wifs....even nowadays some hotels have trash wifi

 
If you want my opinion, the chances of her recording a live stream as you told it, less than 1%

 
Recording in general is higher, but again Webcams in 2008-2010 were weak.  

 
Extremely, extremely unlikely now that you outlined the time frame.

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I said it was her house. I was at a hotel. I originally booked an outcall. But like I said, she convinced me to come to her. I was visiting her home turf. And there were definitely webcams back then. Porn was live streaming in the late 90s. They were very advanced by the end of the first decade of the 2000s. You might want to check your knowledge database on how much progress streaming made by then.

she is not hiding, so why not name her so we can read her reviews about all of this OTC time she gives to guys she hasn't even met yet?  You just said she has done it before and it's in her reviews.  Like I said, I never saw any reviews in the 17 years I have been here stating that any hobbyist ever had an offer of OTC time from a provider he had not yet met.  You NOW say she has done it with others.  This is your chance to shut me up about your phoniness.  Name her or give her TER ID number and if there are ANY reviews that say she gave OTC time to ANY monger before she even met them, I will back off and apologize to you for calling you a fake on this one.  Otherwise, I'm right, you're a fake, and yes, I'm an asshole to point it out, but I'm an equal opportunity asshole because I treat all phonies the same.    

 
I can't wait to see what phony reason you have for not naming her.  If you thought she was cool, and what you are saying is indeed true, you would be doing her a favor in alerting the rest of us to her and it would help her business.  So, what do you say, want to help the lady out and get me off of your back at the same time?  Just name her.  

"porn was live streaming in the late 90s."
Lol. No. They had no one to stream to.

There were like political events streamed and it was a big breakthrough

You're talking to someone who lives and breathes computers and has been working with them and internet all the time.  

I can tell you what consumer computers people used in late 90s.

56k modems (u ever try to watch live streams at 56k downstream? It would take a young me half an hour to download a four second grainy porn clip. Windows 95/98. Netscape. RealPlayer. 640x480 crt monitors.

 
Live streaming as a whole didn't start till late 00s. And even then it wasnt easy. Yes there cams but quality would be ass.  

 
Again, you can believe whatever you want. I just gave you my probability estimation. I will not argue any more lol.  

 
My gaffe with the hotel. Misread probably. My bad.

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This happened in NJ years ago. A provider was filming her sessions with a hidden camera and posted them online, a guy found one of the videos of her online and posted it on a thread that she was doing this.  Lets just say her business slowed down considerably

I already made it clear because of what else I said, I am not outing her here. Yes, any VIP can read her reviews and see OTC time is mentioned. But I also accused her of potentially recording me. And, I admitted I cannot prove this beyond doubt. So, no, I am not outing her now. Like I said, if you were less of an asshole, I would do it over PM. But I do not trust an asshole like you. Also, there is a lot more to this provider than I am even going to mention here, for good reason. But if someone more trustworthy, someone who is less of an asshole, wants to PM me, I would be happy to share it with that person. For example, I would share it with Robert. He’s reasonable and not an asshole like you. And we both know Robert would be honest.

This is all online, but here:

1991: The world's first webcam, the Trojan Room coffee pot, is created at the University of Cambridge.  
1994: The first commercial webcam, the QuickCam, is introduced.  
Early 1990s - Early 2000s: The rise of "camgirls" and subscription-based online webcams.  
Early 2000s: Platforms like Cam4 and BongaCams emerge, offering a variety of webcam content.  

 
Skype, the popular video and voice calling service, was officially launched on August 29, 2003

 
The first documented live stream was a concert by the band Severe Tire Damage on June 24, 1993.

 
In 1995, the internet company RealNetworks developed the first media player capable of live streaming — RealPlayer. Later that year, the company hosted the first public live stream. It was a broadcast of a baseball game between the New York Yankees and the Seattle Mariners.

 
On November 8, 1999, the first-ever presidential webcast was held at George Washington University in Washington DC.

 
So while it may not have been as popular, and the quality certainly wasn’t as good, the evidence of it being around and available speaks for itself.

 
This all said, you still may be right about what she did. I’m just putting pieces together. It can be a misread. And, I don’t disagree on the probability being low back then. I did confirm it was summer of 2007. She even with what I did share, I realize access to and use of this technology wasn’t wide spread. But I can assure you, money wasn’t an obstacle for her. Escorting was far from her only, or even main, means to money. Her house, for example, was very big and not in a cheap to live area.

Skype was available before 2008 and most Apple laptops or computers had embedded cameras at this point. I don't think it is unreasonable for a sex worker to know how to stream even in 2008. Cam girls were a thing at this point. Wifi existed as well. The quality wasn't as good as today and it might be a stretch but it isn't impossible. It could also just be a video recording to be shared later. Not necessarily enough to rule things out even if a bit suspicious.

I actually have a somewhat similar story, though minus the webcam. It was my first time meeting with a provider, we had tried to meet a few times but had scheduling issues. On the day of the appointment she said she had a personal milestone to celebrate and asked if we could meet for drinks first. We ended up having drinks and dinner on her and all OTC. After a night on the town we went back to the hotel and had our fun. I've heard other guys talk about similar experiences. Its not a common occurrence but it isn't unprecedented.

Seems to me you put the pieces together correctly. I don’t know why the previous poster was quoting 1990’s modem speeds when this incident occurred in 2007.

This sounds like one of the reviews of the person I'm talking about. I wonder if it's the same person.

That consumer electronics lags behind actual inventions.
And just because someone was doing "live streams" in 90s,doesnt mean any consumers were able to watch them over 56 k internet. Majority of people in late 90s thought anyone who touched computers were nerds and didn't eve have internet. Those who did usually had slow speeds dialup, AOL and so forth. So for example the probability of going to a average hookers house in mid to late 90s and being able to watch a live stream is very close to zero.  

 
In the same vein, high definition television and lcd tech was invented in early 90s, yet if someone were to tell me someone as common and money-conscious  (let's be real provides usually aren't multimillionaires or billionaires ) was watching high def 1080p on an lcd TV in late 90s,I would call bs

 
Going back to my original point, yes it's possible but highly unlikey. I will raise the probability to 2% because I fucked up with the hotel thing.

Well, I can’t see your reviews so oh well lol

Except in 2008 high speed broadband internet was available and fairly widespread plus video chat technology did in fact exist commercially.  

Most people I knew had a PC in the late 90s too lol.

Not even 3% because I made it clear she has plenty of money? Joking. Idc.

regulars and they have been discussed here several times before as "customer appreciation dates."  I have no doubts that there may be outliers, but for the most part, I have never heard a provider say she would give OTC time in advance to someone she has never met, and I don't think any providers have ever posted here that they did this with somebody new.  It's common to get OTC time from regulars and I think many of the ladies that post here will privately offer that to their valued regulars.  

 
At least you recognize that it's not a common occurrence.  But here again, in your case, there was an ongoing dialogue over several appointment that had to be rescheduled.  This creates a certain familiarity which may put both of you at ease to the point that you feel like you know each other even though you had not yet met in person.  If you read HeShits' account, she suggested OTC time if he would move the session to her place at the last minute, and yet, none of his eight reviews mention anything like this.  If he had disclosed in his OP that she was one of the trannies he sees, I would not have called him out, because it's a different dynamic and different set of concerns, if any, when it's a same sex session.  

Well look at here CDLOL walks it back, but makes sure to take a few shots at me on the way and justify how it still doesn’t apply to my situation. Mr. Know it All, basically back tracks what he said he knew, and makes an excuse that allows him to still justify his disbelief for my story.

 
Assholes like you stink up this community. I can only imagine how many more would participate if it wasn’t for people like you.

I still call bullshit on your story.  I was stating the distinguishing factors between your story and Smoke's experience.  They were not the same.  BTW, none of your reviews mention anything about an experience like this, and I didn't see anything in the other reviews of the few providers you have seen that match up with this account you gave.  

 
Like I said, I'm an equal-opportunity asshole. Bullshit is bullshit.  It doesn't matter who's name is on it.  

 
People like reading my posts, because I'm unpredictable and my musings fall into three categories, . . . . Informative, Humorous, and Controversial.  You don't know what you're going to get until you read it. What's the largest number of "reads" you ever got on a thread you started?  Mine's over 10,000.  If you have VIP, I'm happy to send you a link.  

It’s absolutely a walk back. You said no provider would offer OTC without meeting first then justified believing another scenario because they exchanged a few more texts and had to reschedule. They still didn’t meet first dipshit.

 
Of course this isn’t in my reviews. You moron. First, I’m not so dumb to say I won’t out her and have the review right there to read. Jesus. Second, I also said this was well before I knew about TER. Per TER rules, I’m not supposed to write reviews years after the fact.

 
Also, I offered to share details with someone more trustworthy. That offer still stands. Find someone we can both trust if you need help believing. Or don’t. I don’t care either way.

 
Lol. And now you want a competition over whose post got more traction? Is that like a goal of yours? You live on these boards so much that you care about the stupidest shit. But here you go. I crown CDLOL King of creating the best topics on this board. You’re such a wet noddle.

I knew this young lady who kinda fits what you're describing, in a way. She has done some porn so she isn't shy.
Although she would warn you before hand if filming was cool. She wouldn't sucker punch you.
And off topic, I know a few ladies who, as part of their screening like to meet, OTC for to get a feel there's some compatibility. Not many do it, but I have met a couple that do it.

I can’t see yours either. But I didn’t review her. I saw her in 2007. I got on TER in 2012. Against TER rules to create a review from a 5 year old session.

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Just wanted to say that I have gotten OTC time on first dates. In one case it was 10 hours on a 2 hour appointment, in another it was 8 hours on a one hour date, and most recently it was also 8 hours for 90 minutes.  

And no, I'd never write the specifics in a review - ever. That would cause nothing but trouble for the lady in question who I'm sure would be inundated with inquiries from prospective clients expecting the same treatment. The furthest I would go is to say that she wasn't a "clock watcher".

am I not surprised?

Of course I have VIP you dummy. How else do you think I was able to read your mindless copy, paste, and edit reviews?

Hey cdl.... Do you not know that you cannot post with an alias if you don't have vip?

It's a vip only feature. You only can post with your actual username if you don't have vip access.  

Why am I not surprised you don't know this simple thing about TER even though you have been on here for a decade.

me to post links in the future when you say something stupid that was just discussed and corrected a week before, but you either can't remember it, or are just a moron?  Cognitive decline is a real thing, so I don't mind helping you out with links when you repeat the same inaccuracies over and over that you already got the answers to.  I'm more helpful than the Honda guy.