Until then I'm happy to see any woman who is a willing adult. I think the youngest provider I've seen was in her early 20s and she was smoking hot. And yes, young can mean inexperienced and entitled, but it also means firm and wet.
I have been in the hobby since the late 1970’s. Yes, I am older. I have seen girls of all ages and all races. Maybe I am getting old but what would be a normal session with a very mature 19 year old earlier this week made me think the age difference was too much. While I immensely enjoyed myself multiple times, I am realizing that I should probably not see 20 some year old providers and stick to girl at least 30 years old. Not only is it odd for a young girl to hook up with a man 40+ years older and feel comfortable but it feels weird to me too. At what age are newbie providers off limits in your opinions? I am starting to think anything less than. 40 year age difference is okay but over that is suspect.
Because you could get those 18-20 in troubles.
The dumbest questions are asked here.
Good thing I'm here to answer them.
In P4P, behind closed doors? I don't see many girls in that age range, but haven't had an issue with it and don't anticipate one. If she's willing to take my money, I'm going to be fine with it. Look forward to being 80 and telling a 19 year old "I love this young stuff" before going down on her.
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If it was civie dating or even SB out in public I might be uncomfortable with how others react, but that's a different issue.
I'm 79 and nothing better than going down on a nice pink 19 year old.
I'm also 79 and totally agree. If she agrees with the request, takes the money, then I am quite happy taking care of her while she does the same for me.
I often see girls who's parents hadn't been born yet back then.
But that's me, not you. To give you a serious answer, when YOU start feeling uncomfortable is when it's time. Personally I have no intention on giving up on the younger girls anytime soon.
In fact, if anything, it is kind of exciting. If that makes me a pedophile, so be it. In any case, it is kind of rare for me because I like to stick with gals I know well, so the average age of the gals I see is probably around 45 these days.
In any case, it is the maturity of the provider that I am most interested in. I recently started see a gal in her 20s and she and I can discuss things with greater interest than some gals I know who are closer to my age.
I'm in my late 60s.
Age doesn't bother me. Other than in my opinion you get bad service from young ladies. So I look for ladies at least 40 years old. Younger ones just don't know the business side of the hobby as well or how to treat a guy. Always exceptions to every rule.
That's not a question for us. It's all and only about what's in your head, your desires and discomforts. You are in private with the ladies in question, yes? So it's nobody's business but yours and hers. If an 18-year-old hooker pleases you, pay up and enjoy. If the age makes you nervous, avoid. Simple as that.
But it's a little bit interesting that age is an emotional concern for you, and we're curious why that might be? And why the very nontraditional 40 year difference seems to be your threshold? The bluenose snark "She's young enough to be your daughter" sets the difference limit around 16 years, after all. 40 is "young enough to be your grand-daughter, easily".
Full disclosure: I have fucked women young enough to be my great-grand-daughters, and found them delightful.
Until then I'm happy to see any woman who is a willing adult. I think the youngest provider I've seen was in her early 20s and she was smoking hot. And yes, young can mean inexperienced and entitled, but it also means firm and wet.
Totally agree, and, the firm and wet is very much inviting...
To have sex with 18 to 20 year old consenting women.
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The place is anywhere you agree to meet, and the time is anytime after you both turn 18.
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As long as you stay within those constraints (no pun intended), and she makes you hard, it's all ok.
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If you are just no longer interested, then move on. No judgement here about whom you fuck or why, as long as it's legal and consensual.
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I am in my late 50's and I have been with providers who age from 18 to 55 (according to her, but probably 60-ish) and I prefer younger (over 18) women, preferably under 25. I'm not selecting a provider for an hour or two of deep, philosophical discussion on the human condition. That's what strippers are for. :p
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I just want to have sex.
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Yes, I agree that SHE needs to be at least 18, but speaking for myself personally I had been with many 18-20 year old, consenting women well before I turned 18 myself. lol
But yeah, that one small caveat aside, I agree with the rest of your post and I am even a bit older than you, I am early sixties and I don't mind being seen out in public with women forty years younger than myself. Truth be told I am PROUD to be seen with younger women, the only women I would be embarrassed to be seen with would be OTHFB's. Now THAT would be embarrassing to me. I can only imagine if one of my friends were to "catch me" on a date with a sixty year old fat broad. I'd have to kill him to keep him from telling anyone. lol
a jury of fellow mongers, you might even get acquitted. At worst, it would be "justifiable" homicide. Lol
Other people should never be forced to bear the brunt of someone else bad choices. If Gag were to go on such a date (seems unlikely but he posed it so....) then being seen would be on him, not the friend.
I would be willing to accept the claim that is was not actually a date but some required business meeting.
But the minute I let you go free you'd be right here on TER posting "You'll never guess what kind of pig I just caught GaG with" lol
Actually back several years ago I saved a friend (well he was a friend then) and frequent poster on this board from fucking the most vile, disgusting wart hog I have ever seen. It was his last day in Costa Rica and he wanted to fuck "Just one more" chica before heading home and it was a really slow morning at the Del Rey, he goes and finds this bull dog/wart hog mix and tells me he's going to take her upstairs and after one nauseating look at her I forbid him from taking so much as a single step away from the bar with that pig, and I told him I would tackle him in the lobby of the hotel "for his own good" if he tried to leave with her. lol
I told him later that I did it as much for me as for him, because when it dawned on him what he had done I just knew he'd have to kill all the witnesses to this crime against nature, I know I would never let anyone live who had such damning information on me. lol
I wonder how many of you can guess who I am talking about? I'll give you a hint, you all know him. lol
For the record, he did NOT fuck that pig, he found another, less heinous woman to fuck that morning and we both lived to tell the story.
Rimming seems to be his specialty of late.
Fair enough, GaGa.
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My 1st sexual experience was with my then 16 year old GF when I was 18. Her parents knew and liked me, and they were aware (and so tacitly approved) that we were having sex. But that was long ago (1982 or so) and frankly, I'm not making any posts here or elsewhere that may be interpreted by anyone as "advocating" for sex with a minor - male or female.
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And as you know, I play rather deep in the sugar bowl and have had (and still do have) many relationships with 18+ to late 20's women. Add interracial mixes to that, and I've seen it all from people out in public giving us the "stank eye". Never bothers me a bit. In fact, I just love it!
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I’m not an old man but I know what I like and I’ll like it for as long as I damn well please. All that really matters is that she’s legal and your interactions are consensual, after that the sky’s the limit. If I’m in my 90s or something, and can still get it up and lay some pipe, I’ll totally book an 18 year old who’s willing to service someone who could be their great-grandpa, no doubt.
i don't care how physically hot a girl (not woman) under 26 is, i have found nearly all are either sexually boring or at best lacking in sexual knowledge. i realize that for many guys all they need for a 10 experience is a hot body and open legs and thats what makes them happy then great to each their own. but .. give me a mid 30s woman rated 9 in looks anytime over a 24 year old 10 .
as any woman over 31 can tell you their bodies undergo a massive change when their libido ignites. i prefer someone who truly interacts, is truly multi orgasmic, doesn't take 15 minutes to cum and also knows how a man's magic spots. why do you think MILFs are in such high demand?
most 23 year olds lie there thinking ......... beige, as soon as this guy leaves, I am going to paint the ceiling beige.
and oh every 26 yr old that tells me "oh no I Love sex , i know what i am doing ....blah blah" i just say Wait! and every woman over 32 can tell her the same thing.
The modern man ... should stop for red lights, but not wait for green lights.
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Carpe Diem.
If she doesn’t mind it doesn’t matter. Lately the sweet spot for me are ladies around the age of 24. I have had several trysts with 2 different ladies who are both 24. Had a 3 year relationship with a lady when she was 21. I think I saw her 60 times in 3 years......unfortunately she entered Medical School out of state. She claimed I was the only client she was seeing, whether it is true or not, it doesn’t really matter at this stage. I still prefer p4p vs SB. Dabbled in it, but it just was not for me.
For me, being an old dinosaur, I find my "sweet spot" to be mid-30s to mid-40s (as long as I find them otherwise attractive). Having been in p4p since '92 (off and on), I've played the age and ethnicity range. I wanted to "taste the rainbow" (royalties to Skittles) -- but having done that, I've found that as I get older, a 45 year age difference doesn't do it for me.
My current fave is 38, in great shape and loves to push my boundaries (in all ways that we have discussed over multiple sessions).
Play to your comfort level and have fun!
Exactly what do you mean by grass on the field?
That's what I thought. I wanted to be sure. I was at first concerned about that statement but when I reread the OP I realized it was not an issue.
I've been doing this for 25 years, and we all know that most pro gals probably don't care, as long as they get paid. I don't have a daughter or grand-daughter, but it's just starting to feel "wrong" to be with someone very young somehow. But that's just my issue. Fortunately, I know plenty of MILFs and 30+ ladies, and they usually offer the advantage of skills and maturity. And they might have heard of the Beatles.
Already been answered a bit on here but as long as they are of legal age, it’s up to you. At the end of the day, it’s your cash. It’s not like the hobby is your mortgage or car payment where you have to make it or you lose it. This is part of your discretionary spending. Do what makes you happy and say F’it to everything else. Only you can answer whether or not you want to see them. The one advice I would give would be to worry less about the age and more about whether you connect with the provider. There are no rules to the hobby around who you should or shouldn’t see. We all have our own types so go with what makes you happy. Even if people did judge you one way or the other, do you really give a shit about what a bunch of strangers on the internet think...
I ran across a semi gfe girl on BP. She was 19....I saw her twice, but it just felt too creepy for me given my own age. Being with 30 something women isn't even natural at my age, but, I can self justify that at least.
Very hard for most 20 something girls to give a realistic gfe performance when the age gap becomes too great....my opinion.
If you're trying to get with a "Kid".....Not my cup of tea but fuck it, to each his own.
Have at it. As long as she's a legal adult.
Short answer: Until cognitive dissonance sets in.
Long answer:
In a nutshell, this is a hobby, not civvie dating. As long as you're respectful and follow the protocol, most providers won't care. If anything, most providers have a *lower* age limit, like not seeing any men under 30. (This was a big obstacle for me when I first started hobbying.) However, one thing I posted a lot about lately is suspension of disbelief: that's where you can easily ignore that you're with a provider, even if she's more attractive than most of your civvie dates. (Not unlike how you suspend disbelief when watching a good movie.) So...
* At which point does being in bed with a 20-year-old woman stop feeling normal?
* When does it start to feel strange at best and "icky" at worst, and cognitive dissonance sets?
* At what age would you expect 20-year-old civvies to start seeing you as "old", rather than merely "older"?
Answer those questions for yourself, and go with that. All in all, if the provider's age is an issue for you, just borrow the "half your age + 7" rule from civvie dating, and see providers no younger than that.
30. I have a daughter a little older than that and lower than 30 just seems a little creepy to me. Too much of a difference in our cultural perspectives. Nothing really to talk about that we BOTH know something about. I usually book two hours when I'm repeating, which is 75%+ of my hobby hours, so in between pops, there is usually about 30 minutes of down time" (no pun intended), during which I like to little conversation. So with this in mind, even though my cut-off is 30, I prefer women in the 35-45 age group if Asian, and 30-40 if not, not just for the conversation, but for the ability to find some chemistry to go with the physics of sex. I know 30-45 is a sacrilege to guys like my friend, GaGa, but we all gotta go where we feel the most comfortable, and at 61, this is it for me.
I see MILFs and GILFs over 40, but sometimes will get an itch for someone in their 30s.
When I started in the hobby about 20 years ago I saw women between 25 and 35. Under 25 was a hard line I drew.
I will not see anyone younger than 21. I follow this rule in strip clubs too. I will spend time with an 18, 19, or 20 yr old in a strip club but I have a hands off policy until they turn 21. I won't go to a VIP room with them. Escorts again no one under 21. I know some say, she could be my daughter or in my case granddaughter But she isn't so I'm fine with it. It happens that I have never seen an escort younger than 23 but that's simply a matter of happenstance.
Should never be more than 100
That could be problematic. lol
among the other inmates.
I told him, if she dies, she dies.
OMG LOL You're my hero!
I told him, if she dies, she dies.
That joke was old in Shakespeare's time.
There was an old billionaire who agreed to marry a young, hot gold digger. She figured that she'd fuck him to death soon enough and inherit lots of money. On their honeymoon night, she is in bed and her geriatric hubby joins her. He puts on a condom, puts ear plugs in his ears, and affixes a nose clip to his nose. She asks, "What are those for?" He said, "There are two things I can't stand. The sound of screaming women and the smell of burning rubber."
I told him, if she dies, she dies.
A 93 year old guy goes into a bar and as he grabs a stool to sit he says "Bartender! Round of shots for everyone! I'm getting married tomorrow to a 19 year old woman!"
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Everyone cheers and rushes up to congratulate the man on his amazing announcement... except the bartender. He had worked at this locals' hang out for decades and had seen too many of these types of things go horribly wrong.
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After the drinks are served and the crowds return to their seats, the bartender wanders over the groom, shaking his head. He says "Hey old timer, how old are you, anyway?" The groom replies "I'm 93 and loving life!. The bartender shakes his head again: "Wow, 93...you realize that can be fatal?" The old man smiles and says "Fuck it! If she dies, she dies!"
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Don't worry mrfisher. I didn't ignore your post.
..."Wow, 93...you realize that can be fatal?" The old man smiles and says "Fuck it! If she dies, she dies!
...every reply before I can add a useless joke that doesn't advance the OP's topic?
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I have never given a second thought to the age of a provider when booking. I chose from photos and reviews. I assume my regular bookers are not booking under age girls. I usually do one hour sessions, and I can make small talk with just about anyone for 10-15 minutes if time is left over. A few times after a session I will note that a provider was a bit on the old side. However, when a provider is inexperienced (young), it does not turn me off. Either I have fun teaching, or I decide to wait for her to pick up some experience before returning. I will admit I have gotten a good laugh a few times when a provider says something like, “Give it to me harder daddy!”
And my average is 30s -late 40s. Though an occassional 23-30 yr old is a treat. Its behind closed doors, if they are good to go I don't see a problem for the acts themselves 18 or older. Now I would NEVER go out in the town with anyone under 25, but thats me. I'd fuck em or get a bj or daty behind closed doors tho.
I'm 66 next month and have been in the hobby since the early 90s. My tastes have definitely changed as I have gotten older. When I was younger, the 18-20's were great. I was closer to their age and the fantasy was that you were doing adult things with the hot girls in high school or college who you could never seem to successfully ask out. As I got older, generational differences emerged (both ways) and I realized that part of the foreplay and anticipation was to be carry on a conversation. Then, the "creep factor" enters into the picture. Somewhere along the way, we get weirded out by girls younger than your daughter (nieces in my case) and some younger girls get weirded out by having sex with someone old enough to be her father. This adds tension and distractions that can't be overcome by the physical sensation of being consumed inside a 19-year old vagina. Then, as we get older, we all eventually realize that experience counts and that there really are bad blow jobs. These days, I'm happy with hot & fit women from 35 on up. For a guy my age, that's sort of in the "trophy wife" age range.
Spot on, amigo. I'm just a bit ahead of you on the timeline and we reflect the same sentiments.
My fave, who I've seen 16 times in the last 2 1/2 years, turned 38 a few months ago and we get along famously.
that my favorite age is 30-40 for all ethnicities except Asians. For Asians, my top limit goes up to 45 because most look five-ten years younger than their physical age, as evidenced by most reviewers who set up a profile for an Asian provider are too low on the age range by ten to fifteen years.
I'm 61, and like you, service is king with me. Most women in this biz, regardless of age, look pretty good to me providing they are height and weight proportional. IOW, if she's 160 pounds, its okay as long as she's 6-5. But I put more emphasis on their service and skills, and those are much improved with experience and age. I agree about the creep factor on girls in their early 20's. I've seen a few and nether one of us was comfortable.
Age has not been a factor for most of my hobby career. I simply like slender women with oral skills. Early on I met with a girl who said she was 18 and may have been less. She was one of the best ever for me. Saw her again 7 years later and it was not the same. She still did a good job, but I missed the "sweet 16" personality. I was mid 50s then.
I will repeat over and over with any girl that has a stretchy throat. But now I am early 60s, and it does feel a bit creepy seeing a girl younger than my daughters.
A person is ether old enough for sex or a person is not. The age that is is highly depends on the individual and that person's life experience. The law sets that age on most states at 18. 18 is also the legal age of majority in the US. Legally and morally there is zero difference between bedding an 18 year old or bedding an 118 year old.
But some don't feel comfortable bedding people half there age or younger. Some people feel a disconnect do to the lady lacking as much life experience as they have. Others feel there is too much of a cultural difference between the generations. Yet, some just don't care and want some of age young ass. Nether is wrong. Well, as long as all parties are of legal age and both are concerning that is.
As for me, I do enjoy a younger woman from time to time, I also occasionally see women a bit older then me. But then again by TER monger standards I am young at only 46.
I am 45. Had my oldest when I was in my 20s.
Likely, mid to late 30s is my favorite age for women. I like to have dinner dates, having 20 yo on my arm just seems odd.
My ATF is in mid 40 ( early 30s in TER years )
Traci Lords was a superstar from 1984-1986 during the Golden Age of Porn but there was a problem: she used falsified documents to support her age claims and then the shit hit the fan. During her time, porn movies had very high cinematic values, scripted scenes, professional sets and costuming, non-porn plots, etc.. (Gonzo and other porn genres came later.) Traci portrayed sexually "mature" characters in their 20s or older and, it was said, she did so very convincingly. No one thought that this was an under-18 teen in those scenes. It was a mature, experienced young woman.
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Then, around the same time, there were also movies with adult woman playing young teens and even baby dolls.
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Some writers have asked, What is worse? Having a 17-yo, mature beyond her years, convincingly portray 20-30 yo women or having a 22 yo dress up and act as a sub-18 yo to cater to the interests of pedophiles? I am pretty sure that porn stopped with the deliberate presentation of 18+ models as young (sub-18) teens years ago. Today, the "teen" label means 18 and 19 and is also sometimes used for 20-40 yos.
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I think we all know children, teens, and adults whose maturity does not match their chronological age. Some can dazzle you with maturity beyond their years on many topics that leaves you shaking your head in amazement. On the flip side, I can think of a well known 74 yo celebrity in the news every day who has the maturity and intellect of an 8 yo.
I agree that any age limit is going to be arbitrary compared to the actual mental maturity of a specific individual. However, absent a definitive age limit, you know pedos would be pushing the boundaries to the extreme.
You could tap Tracy Lords now and not feel bad about it...
Personally I like 20-40 years difference for me, that feels natural. Anyone younger or older than that feels like work. Lol.
and some of us are more different that others. lol
I am with you on the 20-40 years difference for me too, or more accurately around 20-43 years difference. Any older, unless she is a VERY well preserved is too old for me, and since I am 61 any younger and I'd be looking at a prison sentence.
I am assuming that you are saying that your range is 18-41 and that everyone is only look at the difference as being subtracted.
although I was just kind of following Maddy's lead when she said she preferred a 20-40 year "age difference" in truth there are very few 41 year old's that I am actually interested in so I guess my preferred age difference is more like a 25-43 year difference which would translate to an age range of 18-36.
I could swear there was a time when your cutoff was 25, occasionally up to a 30yo, but only if she still LOOKED 25.
This is actually quite frightening. Because if YOU can change, there's no telling what might happen now.
Next thing I know, you're going to tell me you've stopped drinking. ![]()
Some very hot and skilled 40 year-olds. Ifs okay, more for me!! Lol
Otherwise why would there be any issue for two consenting adults? The real answer I guess is the age that you feel uncomfortable with it.
is not going to let becoming a corpse slow him down much. TER will just have to start a new discussion board that starts where the over-60 board ends. It would be called "The Living Dead."
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I think that yes it's really creepy seeing your daughter age girl being force to do prostitution that is a human nature,
And most ladies aren't forced. So what is creepy is you being on this board if you assume the ladies are forced. And if they are not forced and of age of consent what is the issue?
I started when I was in that age group. Nobody coerced or forced me into it.
It was my choice and I'm still loving what I do for a living. ![]()
Started when I just turned 18. Good family. Needed extra cash. Did it on and off. Loving it since.
If she’s legitimately 18 I don’t have a problem with it. But I would be worried that she might have lied about her age and she’s really 17 in which case it would be statutory rape. And my daughter is 16 so if she looks like my daughter it would freak me out and I wouldn’t be able to get it up. I’m not taking that chance. I’ll stick with older women, 30 +.
I sugar babed a few 18 year olds. They had to produce legal ID upon meeting.