for the rest.

The people who write those offensive posts are the same ones that would rip up a newspaper before leaving it behind at a lunch counter.

Fortuately there are enough wonder people out there like you Jolene (Unrepentent or not, I love you.) to make life wonderful again.

There has been a spate of providers outting hobbyists on blogs.

There's been a spate of providers blacklisting hobbyists.

More & more stories of providers ripping off hobbyists (See Tasha Vegas' many repeated ripoffs in Las Vegas among others).

More & more  NCNS.

More & more hobbyists being crapped on in "women's forums".

The bad economy has made many providers bitter.

I'm not saying hobbyists aren't guilty of bad behavior (they are) , but provider behavior towards hobbyists in the last 2-3 years is causing hobbyist contempt, & has created an adversarial situation and a backlash.

Just my 2 sheckels.

Here’s a provider's conspiracy theory for you (blame this idea on the recent spate of hateful, hurtful postings on the GD board by a few aliases):

A hobbyist, or maybe two or three, has decided to make TER as rough as a few other boards out there. They want the drag-out, knock-down aspect of those boards carried over to this board. They don’t believe that decency and civil discourse between hobbyists and providers is wanted or necessary.

Why? Who knows. Maybe he/they were refused by the one provider they’d set their hopes on. Maybe a provider blacklisted them. Maybe a hobbyist got caught by his SO. Maybe someone blackmailed them, whether provider or an outsider or their current SO. It doesn’t really matter. This man/these men behind these aliases have decided that they’re going to make sure no one enjoys being on TER.  

Hence the verbal rough-shod treatment of and outright lies about providers (98.9% hate their clients? Providers keep the used condoms for DNA? Providers go through clients’ pockets? Really? REALLY??). Hence the scoldings and scorn aimed at hobbyists. Hence the nasty-tempered and disrespectful postings aimed at providers. The aliases are attempting to pit hobbyists against the providers.

Unfortunately, in some arenas, he’s / they’re succeeding. He has/They have proceeded to make already nervous hobbyists refuse to give providers what the providers need to feel safe. He has/They have also made inroads in making the providers even feel less welcome than before, because now providers are faced with a board nearly seething with distrust.

In doing this, he has effectively cut down on how much a provider makes - and also cut down on how many hobbyists are enjoying their hobby (namely, we providers).

I may be "just" an unrepentant, fat old whore, but I know an agenda when I read it.

There is always Disney Land if this board is too much for you to handle or if reality slips by you. I don't recall any providers directing their venom to that alexleiberman/slob/blog when she posted things of a similar nature.

There are plenty of hookers that go through a hobbyist's pockets and plenty of ROB's even among TER reviewed providers. Don't kid yourself into thinking all providers are angels. THAT is the main reason why so many hobbyists don't want to submit intrusive screening. It is not about objecting to keep a provider safe, it is about keeping THEMSELVES safe. Some of you just don't get it.

Some of the threads you have to take with a grain of salt. I would also suggest that you stop watching so much TV. It clouds ones judgement.

PS: How do you know all the aliases are hobbyists?

If infact your 'theory' is true, that's fucked up. Not in your deal, you know I dig you.

I admit I have something of a temper. Especially when I'm drinking. Which is all the time...

But I don't need any help assassinating my character, or lack thereof.

I'll just never get why grown people hide behind alias' and start shit.

I do and say some fucked up shit. But at least you know where and who it's coming from. I don't hide, and I take my beatings just the same.

Thanks, Jolene. You calmed me down...

And you're not a fat old whore. Unrepetant, maybe...

But I've heard a lot about what you speak of.

In the past month $950 was lost on providers who did no call no shows on me. That money was spent on other providers.

I talked to another provider and she is upset that guys call her up asking what they can do for $40. She was going $250 a few years ago and had to drop the price to $220/hour or $300/2 hours. She is pretty good, greek, gfe, bbbj, etc.

I'll admit if you're good for nothing else, you good for a positive altitude lol






Still not vip OR mrfisher lol

There will be no "Tasha" threads on this board

by muzzled, I mean no posts of any kind will "go live" by that poster until I am good and ready to allow them.

I hope I have made myself clear.

Your "Providers Conspiracy theory" on the subject makes sense to me.. I'll keep all of that in mind when my attacks come...

A hidden agenda ... unlike MP67 who tends to make me LMAO and brings real entertainment to the board.

You could be correct. It might not even be a 'planned' thing, either. Whatever the reason, I do believe it is caused by a relatively few manevolent, maladjusted motherfuckers making a mess for the rest of us.

There may also be a couple of providers with an adversarial attitude adding to the ASSCLOWN'S attempts to assassinate anything amiable that appears here. After all, misery loves company.

IMHO your presence ot the board, as well as  other providers who put up with that garbage and still contribute in a positive manner, is what makes this a place worth coming to.

I can respect the admin's and mods' approach, and certainly lay no BLAME on them for the sorry state of affairs, but in the end, the only way it will change is by their hand.


HH

Maybe now someone will believe that I am actually the "nice mod".

Well maybe not Mikey right this minute. We're probably in a tie for "bad mod"

theory no doubt.

At the end of the day, I just chalk it up to people having differing viewpoints.

As with much in life, it's up to the reader to separate the wheat from the chaff and determine what's really important.

The one about DNA was ridiculous and the faux provider was quickly sniffed out and slapped down; same with the one about 99.8% of providers hate their clients.  The latter was so stupid on its face I didn't even bother to comment.  Maybe I should have, because my experience is so contrary.  How do I know this?  Partly instinct; partly that providers, while good actresses, can't possibly be that good on such a consistent basis.  I've also spent time with them OTC.  
Then, (and this is really a question) there's the squirting.  I've been with three squirters in the past few months and, while one admits she's trained herself to maximize her squirts by holding off her orgasm, there's no way to completely fake a squirt that I know of.  I know many of us believe this.  Can someone tell us if it's true?  I've been down there to watch her pussy writhe and convulse, then squirt.  If find it hard to believe it can be faked.
Anyway, all this makes me think the whole 99.8% thing is bullcrap.
Finally, about aliases.  I use them...a lot.  Mostly, I use them to make a post funnier (The Cunning Linguist, Conan The Grammarian, etc., etc.).  As you can tell, I could give a shit who knows because hiding my identity is not the point.  Anyway, MP67 always sniffs them out without my help. Several more are to tease Gambler, who knows every alias anyway. Do I ever use them to flame someone I think is an ass?  Sure, but hardly ever on this board.  Usually it's on the P&R board, which is like the Wild West and most providers avoid it anyway.  Bottom line: aliases are a fact of life, so it's pointless to complain about them.  I understand in this case it's  troubling because it can affect business.  In such cases the mods have the power to pull the  post or flip the alias.  I'm willing to let them use their judgement because I think GaG and LP have their heads screwed on right.  TER (and, by extension, the mods) have no interest in harming this business; quite the contrary, in fact.  So I think your concerns are overblown.

MrP, I'm not asking for Disneyland, but you have to admit we deal with fantasies here. We're adults playing in adult business, but it really doesn't do to unnecessarily irritate or humiliate your playmates. As a part of that, it pays to be civil both in real life AND on the boards.

One can disagree without being disagreeable (I re-learned that one on the P&R board just two days ago; I got my butt chewed royally for being a troll).

P.S. How do you know they aren't?

i'd add at least two:

1) folks (men or women) with a hobby hostile agenda and a case of indigestion. too many stale pastries washed down with overly acidic coffee can do that: ruin your digestion and make you very, very grumpy and decide to go on some sort of campaign.

2) clients who have become jaded and bitter. another poster has indicated that not all providers are kind and caring professionals. folks can get quite bitter about a scam or con or other misbehaviour. but i think it is better to deal with that more directly and not attack everyone.

no VIP, not reading PMs.

I approved your post specifically for the ability to say that you're wrong.  He's simply using a current example of an event that proves his assertion.

I'm hoping that Gambler starts pulling my posts.  I've been getting in entirely too much trouble everywhere I go.

of the adversarial relationships between providers and clients could be avoided if both sides remember that they're engaged in a simple business transaction where certain services are provided for payment rendered.

Regrettably, both sides are prone to taking things personally to relative degrees, whether its a client experiencing feelings of unrequited love for the provider or the provider coming to depend on the clienbt for financial sustenance. Or perhaps both sides start taking the other for granted (e.g. no calls, no shows).

When things like this happen, invariably feelings get hurt and the start of another adversarial relationship commences.

Re: Ah, Mikey's an idiot. Fuck that guy! .eom..

to quote you from the other day:  "Mikey may be an idiot, but he's not dumb."  I'm your biggest fan...

realism is where it's at. positive or negative attitudes are simply not realistic doncha know? the board, is only a board. it _should_ reflect reality if through a glass and darkly. my current favorites are a realistic and delightful antidote to any negative experiences especially JYYN.

still neither VIP nor jaded.

I appreciate the chuckle about the good old days.

You're obviously new here. Underhanded shit? Old fucking news. Shit, go back about 2-3 years on the Vegas board.

And why? There's too many other guys to emulate. The mods for one. mrfisher. Johngalt. romeogolf. Inicky. KJ5233. I can go on and on.

I'm a drunken buffoon. You don't wanna walk in my shoes if you're at all serious..

I can be taken at small doses. That's it.

Being the 'fuck you man' is cute for so long.

Do what 'dantananot' does. Know what I mean brother?

But it's "I may be crazy, but I'm not stupid."  Whatever, but, as far as drunken buffoons go, you're not a bad dude.  Emulating me, on the other hand, is really not such a good idea.

Maybe smaller doses than you think. lol

Don't beat youself up so much(the mrs. can do that), growing up it seemed like every girlfriend i ever had initially liked me for my humorous side. Problem is, she grew to hate the very thing that attracted her to me in the beginning.