....I am going to have each and every client that I see agree on email/screening information with his real name that there will be NO BBFS with my services. They will have to confirm it as collateral so no one can *&^ with me when it comes down to REVIEWS. If that person decides to be nasty (which I really believe wouldn't happen) I can at least PROVE through his email that he KNOWS I DO NOT OFFER that service AT ALL. No questions, no probing, not even TALKING about it during our time together will make out time together null and void. An AGREEMENT between provider and hobbyist is IMPERATIVE for all of our reputations and safety.  I am using an alias for obvious reasons and for those providers that practice this disgusting irresponsibility - I pray for your salvation. Karma can be a real bitch.

It won't affect the assholes who will say it happened in the past, but it will affect from today on. Kudos

I don't discuss services over email- not what is or isn't on the menu, or anything. Nothing explicit about sex, period. Neither should you. If you can't figure out why this is a horrible idea, go talk to an attorney.

Correct. If you're pre-screening someone, & they DO happen to be LE, you've just sealed their case w/that one e-mail.. case over.

I would LOVE to have any of you Providers or Hobbyists come up with ANY solution(s)s to protect providers from idiots (as in 'you know who you are') to protect our reputations. We all have had FAKE reviews, lies made up to hurt providers etc from many A-Holes just like some of the ones who responded to this thread ridiculing my ideas. Again, at least I'm coming up with anything even if it is stupid, blah blah blah. At least I am trying to find some way to protect us but it seems that TER and the pieces of (*&^ guys (and girls it seems) on this site don't give a RAT's ASS of our well-being or us in general. Yes, now I get the legality of it and yes, I made an emotional plea that obviously doesn't work. MY BAD!

To Ms Devindavette - instead of being such a b-eoutch why don't you come up something other than your sour puss attitude. I don't see anything coming from you that is positive towards our plight. It's obvious you have nothing to add - as my father always said if you don't have anything nice to say , DON'T SAY IT AT ALL. So disappointed in your response....blah to you.

Very well stated. Also very true. I agree that nothing seems to be without flaw, but if you are not adding anything else to the plight then sit down and shut up.

My apologies to the OP.  But MP's post shows you just how easily your words can be twisted.  

When I first read her suggestion, I thought... well that might just work!  Then when I thought about it more, (and I read the other responses) I can see that it is not a viable option.  However, I appreciate her suggestion.  At least she tried to come up with a solution to this madness.  

Honestly, for me it is business as usual.  I will simply continue to do the next right thing.

I do think that all posts and/or reviews that point the finger at someone regarding BBFS should never be allowed behind an alias.  No cowards allowed!

Good luck with that.

The facts are that BBFS happens now already and continues to happen. It APPEARS ( I am still waiting on a personal email from TER where I have asked specific questions ) that TER is going to allow BBFS to be both discussed and in a review.

Its a fact that fake reviews and statements happen to both hobbyists and providers now. There is zero to little control to stop this and there are no safeguards that make either hobbyist or providers happy.

The sum of those facts is that BBFS takes place with or without the new policy. And of course the fake reviews and blatant lies take place without the new policy.

The idea of the policy, good bad or indifferent is a form of communication. It does not endorse anything that is not already going on. Here is what it does do and I am going to catch hell for this. It possibly brings to light those that swear they don't participate or say they don't, wouldn't, and thinks its gross. Where it would never have been so before.

EVERY provider I have spoken to about this swears they would never do such a thing. Every hobbyist I have spoken to claims they would never do such a thing. Yet look at the poll numbers. They speak for themselves. What you are seeing is the backlash of emotion based on the lack of safeguards real and or implied.  

Nothing prevents a hobbyist from placing a fake review now, nothing prevents a hobbyist from submitting anonymous BBFS claims against a provider now. In turn nothing prevents the same from a provider. There is no need to get nasty about peoples personal reactions to these posts. For some its a very threatening revelation, for others its the best thing in the world. I expect that this subject will be revisited many times and I expect you will see some changes.

Must be why I'm in sales and not holed up in some warehouse or some shit like that, lol.

Just didn't dig her fuckin' gig, especially under an alias.

P is for "Partial" or "Penetration", take your pick. Had the unexpected experience the other day. Happened so quick I didn't even have time to object, although I would have if it had continued. Will definitely not return.

I would rather hear bad news than no news at all. But I don't think it's realistic that anyone will be outed for this practice. With the prevalence of aliases, and the ability to avoid banishment by simply closing the banned account and opening another one, no one (or very few) is/are gonna cop to BBFS. The reason they won't? Because they know it is WRONG, and people are reticent to admit it when they do something wrong. The mods will do their best, but the problem isn't there - it's in those who seek out BBFS because it is "forbidden", or because, "my GF gives it to me bareback - this is supposed to be a GFE experience, so...", and those who would offer it as some sort of bonus or perk. Like I said, discussion is good, but what REAL good does it do when people only known by an anonymous handle are undertaking unhealthy practices which could affect all of us?

would be more effective.

Currently as of this post the results don't even add up to 100%. I find this difficult as its an all electronic vote. Makes a person wonder.

I already voted well over ten times. (I lost count after ten) Voted on the "no f'ing way" side by the way. Voting on the other side could be just a few people voting many many times. By reading the posts it seems like an overwhelming majority are against bbfs. but yet the poll numbers show other wise (although changing...now at 39% down from 45) I just find it funny how many people say stuff like "polls don't lie." Why do people believe polls as gospel? polls are very easily manipulated.

Also the comments about it happens more than you think are off to me. I have hobbied for 30 years and it happened once (in the 80s)

Reagan, I am disappointed in you  I enjoy reading your posts. They are usually long but well thought out and filled with intelligence and logic (unlike so many other posts on these boards) However your intelligence and logic disappointed me in these two posts. Your earlier post stated “the numbers speak for themselves” regarding the polls. Polls are way to easy to manipulate. Especially these with multiple voting allowed. I wouldn't think that you would be one of the people blindly using the poll as gospel truth.

Your second post questioning the poll numbers because they don't add up to 100 is not logical either. There are many reasons to not trust the polls but the numbers not adding up to 100 is not one of them.
Obviousl TER is rounding the numbers. You don't see any decimals there. The real numbers could be something like 35.2%, and 14.3 % and  12.1 % and 38.4%. Now that adds up to 100, but rounding them off 35+14+12+38=99

Anyway, I still like you, and sorry for the alias. I have been using this alias on all polst regarding this subject. BTW I am 100% against bbfs

It won't work. The more you protest, the more you look guilty. Who knows if you are strict with new guys, but offer it to regulars if you get the impression they would want it. I'm not saying that you do. I'm just saying that you can publicly say anything you want, but who really knows what happens behind closed doors?

The best you can do is:
1) Screen. And add BBFS to your questions you ask the other ladies.
2) Post on your site that you don't do it, so when he asks, you can kick him out without a refund.