There's just too many assholes. So, reading it is laughs. Folk pretending to be politicians of one sort or another. I guess my favorite is out dear GB. The Boys on the Board annilate with passion. Since I live a sheltered life in an incubator, the macho jelly bellied tax preparer who heads up the gang here always puts me awe of these worldly wise degenerates.
There's also a middle-management super trooper whose disdain for women makes his whoremongering most amusing. He, too, is so very macho and such a man of the world, that had he been able to satisfy his wife he could have been the world's greatest lover. To be fair, his wife is a demanding bitch always nagging him for things like foreplay, after play, and non-anal sex. Not what even the most generous would call pretty, she served the purpose of bring his bride, hence dispelling a few rumores about is orientation.
The Boys on the Board suffer from self-loathing, having to pay for sex is quite disturbing. Makes you wish they'd get themselves fixed and just hold it down a little.
The women here are the real stars. Twice as intelligent as most of their male counterparts, the enjoy a serenity that gives them a fascinating perspective on life. They know what makes men desire them, and they are gladdened to find that the Boys have never been able to figure the puzzle out. If they have a shortcoming, it would be that they, in general, don't see that men are intoxicated so much by the mystery that they deliberately avoid coming to any conclusion or solving the mystery. Maybe that's a great difference between the sexes. Perhaps women simply like the answers to questions more than they enjoy hints.
And there are a few others, like me, who just babbling on in whatever form of gibberish comes to mind, and the directional chaos here provides suitable space for us to digress in any direction we've a whim to go.
Yes, the GB is more fun than a barrel of monkeys sure to always leave you tickled pink.
were changed by a discussion in an online forum. I think. Maybe he was just faking it to get along.
But he was the only person. There's millions and millions of people arguing politics online every day, and all they do is dig in their heels deeper.
I think they all should take a break and get a blow job or something. It would make them more tolerable.
Oh, and by the way, Obama is the worst president ever. You'd better agree with me or I'll call you all sorts of vile names. I'll even type it in ALL CAPS. 
Fritz and I took in a movie. Some zombi flick. I thought it was all right. Fritz said it could've been better. No, I retorted, in some ways it was pretty good. Fritz insisted it sucked. I reminded him of some good moments. Fritz yelled at me. He said it was the worst film he'd ever seen. I compared it to "Chinatown." Fritz said it should never have been made. I told him it was the greatest movie ever Produced. He said it was total garbage. That's how this kind of arguing goes.
If neither of us had said anything, just kept our mouths shut, we probably would have agreed that it was cheap, fluffy, low-budget entertainment. The argument cemented our views and forced us both to take extreme positions--neither of which were accurate. So...the idea that debate is a way to arrive at truth goes down the drain.
Interesting that one guy changed his political opinion. He must be a very open person, very wise, and very comfortable above his ego. A rare man in that environment.
Maybe you don't buy into my way of seeing how all this works. But, tell you what, let's not ARGUE about it, okay?
Posted By: 89Springer
were changed by a discussion in an online forum. I think. Maybe he was just faking it to get along.
But he was the only person. There's millions and millions of people arguing politics online every day, and all they do is dig in their heels deeper.
I think they all should take a break and get a blow job or something. It would make them more tolerable.
Oh, and by the way, Obama is the worst president ever. You'd better agree with me or I'll call you all sorts of vile names. I'll even type it in ALL CAPS.
I love being challenged. I love having my assumptions challenged. It's important for growth. If you can't take on new information, assess it open-mindedly, and incorporate what rings true or can be substantiated with evidence, how can you hope to grow? None of us ever knows everything, and the smartest among us knows how very little we actually know.
I adore a good political debate, where everyone comes to the table with facts to back up opinions. It's rare, but has happened. Just not here too often! Lol! Back in the day when I was posting in P&R, I was so turned off by all the insults flying everywhere that it made actual debate very difficult. I haven't been back until recently, when an unexpected gent invited me to try again. I did for a minute, and I must admit it is no where near as bad as it was. So I'll have to try to get over there more often!
Posted By: WickedBrut
Fritz and I took in a movie. Some zombi flick. I thought it was all right. Fritz said it could've been better. No, I retorted, in some ways it was pretty good. Fritz insisted it sucked. I reminded him of some good moments. Fritz yelled at me. He said it was the worst film he'd ever seen. I compared it to "Chinatown." Fritz said it should never have been made. I told him it was the greatest movie ever Produced. He said it was total garbage. That's how this kind of arguing goes.
If neither of us had said anything, just kept our mouths shut, we probably would have agreed that it was cheap, fluffy, low-budget entertainment. The argument cemented our views and forced us both to take extreme positions--neither of which were accurate. So...the idea that debate is a way to arrive at truth goes down the drain.
Interesting that one guy changed his political opinion. He must be a very open person, very wise, and very comfortable above his ego. A rare man in that environment.
Maybe you don't buy into my way of seeing how all this works. But, tell you what, let's not ARGUE about it, okay?
Posted By: 89Springer
were changed by a discussion in an online forum. I think. Maybe he was just faking it to get along.
But he was the only person. There's millions and millions of people arguing politics online every day, and all they do is dig in their heels deeper.
I think they all should take a break and get a blow job or something. It would make them more tolerable.
Oh, and by the way, Obama is the worst president ever. You'd better agree with me or I'll call you all sorts of vile names. I'll even type it in ALL CAPS.
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If you and I agree on what we accept as the facts, and we are both focused on the same issue, we can compare our views of the facts as to how they pertain to the issue. We then might find the importance of finding a conclusion that satisfies all points of view, or the interests of everyone concerned (depending on the nature of the issue).
That's a far cry from what happens on the political board. No one agrees on what the facts are, or which facts are relevant to the issue. Most times, even the issue is not agreed upon. You start out discussing the ACA and instead of comparing the pros and cons of that Act, the conversation shifts to why it is important to obstruct everything proposed by the current administration. Simply stating an opinion on the original issue filters into a stance on the secondary issue.
Any political discussion poses a higher risk of this than trying to reach a conclusion on matters where the direct action of the people involved is at stake. If you and I try to decide where we want to go to eat, our hunger urges us to quickly come to some agreement. When talking about ideological or philosophical differences, our only "hunger" is to win the argument.
When people want to win more than they want to arrive at a conclusion, disagreement tends to polarize each side. The only "growth" results in each person becoming MORE convinced of the rightness of their view, and MORE entrenched in their philosophical slant.
So, do we want to agree? Or do we want to argue? If that's the ONLY pertinent question it's pretty pointless.
It's like someone advising you to be more creative without any reference to what you ought to be creative about. Just sitting around being creative means nothing. Probably impossible. There as to be an issue at stake that demands a conclusion. Argument without the goal of reaching an agreement might be fun, energizing, but it's pretty pointless in our everyday lives
I was joking about meeting a guy online whose views were changed. I've never encountered anyone whose views were changed. Maybe they thought a bit, but no change.
Sarah, you may enjoy a good argument, but I guess I'm burned out. I was heavily involved in politics for many years, and trying to talk to people just wore me down. There are some Guiness-world-record-grade stupid people out there.
In arguing politics online, I often find people throwing out "facts" without substantiation. In order to argue their viewpoints, the facts must be brought to bear. Since they're not going to research the facts, the onus is on the person taking the opposing side. I almost always won those type of arguments, but the time involved in doing research just wasn't worth it.
It's just a lot easier to say "boobs are fun", and if some guy disagrees, refer him to a gay forum.
Excellent summation of political debate! Lol! Often it's like arguing god. You can't win when discussing something people take on pure faith, and that's how most people take everything they consider "knowledge". A prejudice is almost always hard-wired and unlikely to be changed. Except in rare people who come with open minds and a true desire to expand their knowledge base.
Like I said, good debates have happened. it's rare but it can happen. Most of those good debates happened for me in university, and were structured and moderated (I even moderated an I/P discussion at my undergrad uni). They were fantastic because you couldn't say anything without having facts to back it up. I learn a lot from those kinds of debates
NY Board is my hometown board. I also read the NJ board (boring, mostly), Florida, Vegas, and whatever others come to my attention.
I understand the urge to post sometimes...especially when someone has something of worth to say...
