Then I could probably make a more informed choice.

I think I want the courtesan, but that depends on how we all define these terms.

And the "color outside of the lines" tag has me wondering what that means.

More to the point:  It is never the what so much as the how that makes a session truly memorable or otherwise.  I've had some very exhilarating sessions with rather low cost gals in otherwise tawdry surroundings and some rather ho-hum sessions with much higher priced gals in sumptuous surroundings.

This is not such an unusual thing when it comes to aesthetic judgments.  Who has not had a fantastic $9 hamburger that was much better than a $35 dry and tough steak at some hoity-toity steak house at one time or another?   Or seen a low budget amateur stage company performance that blew the doors off of a high priced Broadway production?

True, more often than not, you do get what you pay for, but there are many exceptions.  

To answer your question,  it doesn't matter what you call it, it will always be the same and will always be the oldest profession.

both giving and receiving pleasure in multiple ways.  I am past the 20 yo hotties who don't have the experience to make the experience "a night to remember".

You know what I like.... Honest hookers... Regardless of what label they give themselves

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Courtesan for me please. Also one that doesn't mind older guys.

for sho.

And who gives a crap about labels?  Just don't use "provider."

Tuna Sandwich from the grocery store, from Subway or a deli calling it Gourmet Tuna.

You know I wouldn't see you in a million years;

A man being a man. Give other guys all the shit you want but ganging up on a woman for whatever stupid reason is cowardly. I don't care two shits about this girl, but a bunch a guys deciding to teach her a lesson for violating some absurd code is ridiculous . Grow some balls and manners you bunch of idiots.

.....all your personas.

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...All tuna sandwiches ARE the same, or all tuna sandwiches are NOT the same?

May I suggest "Sloopy?"

But anyway,  I too just want a smoking hot girl who gives me a great Hollywood show.

The Carolina shills are the funniest. Lol.

Its a basic decency in any business practice that you don't distort the facts...

Don't try to rationalize you're idiotic behavior. It makes you look even worse to any civil thinking human being.

In a forum in which they choose to participate.  

In piling on anyone you deem inferior or contrary to your opinions. Bullies are cowards that hide behind their aliases, nicknames or buddies. Whether in the schoolyard or in your adult world, nothing has really changed with you guys. Funny but pathetic at the same time. Carry on with whatever it is that you do.

Ok. An idiot feels the need to state and restate the obvious or, in your case, an opinion over and over ad nauseum! For what purpose? Will saying what's been said 20 more times make your point any clearer?? Come on. You cannot be this stupid in real life.

I want a lady that knows what "game on" means. And I found quite a few ladies that do. So what it means is that we greet each other intimately, we catch up, you know like friends and when it's game on, she shifts gears and turns into a fuck slit until I or both of us get off. Then it's game off and we lay together, talk, share intimate moments and perhaps a little of ourselves until it's game on time again.

A paid shill is not going to stop.
There is no rhyme or reason. He just wants to say something to get his discount or Bbfs extra.
Meanwhile, we are getting thanks from dozens of providers after all the years of bullying and underhanded practices by jLS/CL.

of us have made our points.. A lot of guys and gals telling as well that they appreciated our responses

Then JLS/Corrine has quite the anti-fan club  LOL

What's wrong with fishing/pickup trucks? Man that's a low blow.

^^^^^  what he said!

Take on the world. You should feel proud if the work you've done here. I'm confident it is all of your most significant contribution to the world to date.

I wasn't sure if it was just  "calling out"  or bullying. The two can overlap significantly Sometimes.  I appreciate the "call out"  from guys here but dwelling on it to the point of bullying...  I'm not so sure about.  

I'll reiterate that courtesan, all other things being even, is my preferred choice, even if my budget would perhaps not allow my preferences to always be met.

I like gals who get me to use my noodle also, and you can interpret that on any level you like.

8o)

and I didn't see your name on there.

from some of the recent assholishness that has been going on.  Most of them can take care of themselves in a fight, but you jerks that are being bullying and so derogatory that you are ruining the boards in my opinion.  Keeping this a friendly dialog between us all is the point of this.  Why would the ladies participate on these boards with the attitudes that a lot of jerks have been displaying lately?

Like Mr. F, I would prefer the courtesan experience, if I didn't have anyone to account to for use of funds.  But as a married guy, I hobby when my playtime slush fund has enough in it.  I am unlikely to spend it on the higher price and longer session courtesan.  The escort experience you describe usually includes conversation on various topics and some non-sexual relating occurs.  If I divorce and get half our assets, I might well go for longer sessions and if I like the courtesan enough, take her on trips.  But for now i pick the escort model.

There are certainly many elsewhere who will.

e you saying TER should allow providers to have a ton of different names and rates? Gina on P411 will boot you in a heartbeat for that noise, and why do you think that is? Because it's playing both sides of the fence and guys are PISSED when they find out. Works great in real businesses, but not so great in this one. Well, it does work if you can pull it off lol.  

I agree there is a clear cut difference between all the labels and each takes more time and more money, but to say an escort can't do the same thing a courtesan can in 2 hours is a bit of a stretch. Most true courtesans I know do not use the internet at all to cruise for clients... especially not a site like Eros. Try Courtesan Culture and many other UTR venues for that. Most also don't offer anything less than a 4 hour min. either. China Rose and Lauren Summerhill were once great examples.  

I will post whatever the hell I want and to whom. Don't like it.. don't read it! You seem to have a serious hardon for white knighting and that's fine by me, but don't call out my posts when I have every damn right to post in the name of fairness and common sense!  

Huh. Guess the phone stopped ringing. Imagine that.  

Posted By: JuliasLilSecret

Mr. Fisher, I see hookers, escorts, and courtesans as very different business models.  As a hooker, I would provide a sexual experience without any social social interaction that would take very little time.  As an escort, I provide a safe and clean environment with an atmosphere that allows you to come in and relax with me and enjoy my sexual and mental prowess for a bit longer.  And as a courtesan, I offer another level of interaction where a more complete relationship is desired and achieved through providing a residence to entertain in instead of a hotel room, a nicer bottle of wine with some of your favorite munchies, and a longer period of time to enjoy each others' company.  The people I see as a courtesan want to invest more of themselves into the experience, just as I do myself.  
   
 Because of the difference in time, energy, and expense incurred, there has to be a cost difference between the business models.  And while I definitely agree that you can get a great hamburger at the local joint down the road for just a couple of bucks, it's no where near the same as eating one at Pebble Beach (which I know from personal experience, lol).  Both have their own business markets that many consumers will cross over to depending on what their mood is.  
   
 SO, now we discuss where those markets are located, and this is something that I just have a natural gift for.  Opportunity doesn't just knock at my door.  It busts the damn thing down.  I have lightbulbs going off in my head faster than I can keep up with them, which reminds me, I need to write something down...brb.  Ok, thanks.  I keep my attorney pretty busy looking into stuff, and I know he appreciates having me as a client.  LOL  
   
 TER may have a small base of gentlemen who seek a courtesan experience, but I knew that EROS' market was much larger just through the contacts I had made there in the past couple of years.  It is filled with a constant pool of new gentlemen looking for companionship, and they are seeking a very high quality experience that goes beyond just paying for sex.  AND these gentlemen have no time (or desire) to read reviews or log on to a review site.  If a lady has put enough money and intelligence to back the product, this is all that's needed.  So, yes, this is where money does matter...with how I invest in myself and my product.  Can you imagine how much money I spent on just creating that product?  That's what my clients see, and I can back it all up in person, which seals the deal.  
   
 NOW...how should different business models be handled on TER?  I have a third business debuting in the next week or two and I have contacted TER about creating its own profile so that I can advertise it separately.  It has its own website, its own contact information, and its own rate structure.  A single TER profile obviously cannot accommodate all of this information, so I am hoping that TER will look at it purely from a business perspective instead of getting lost in the tunnel vision that can be so rampant out here.  
   
 OMG...she's an escort, AND a courtesan, AND a Naked Gourmet.  AND she has a registered trademark pending.  What a fraud!!  Is she fucking crazy?  Oh yeah, baby.  Crazy like a FOX!  lol    
   
 THANK YOU for your thoughtful question and enlightening perspective, Mr. Fisher.  I always love it when someone makes me use my noodle.      
   
 xo  
   
 

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Go back and read what you read. Are you really arguing the merits of a marketing strategy here? Come on. You just enjoy having a little fun bullying someone else. At least that's what it looks like you and your two "truly honest" friends are doing. Try being honest about yourself. Could be refreshing. But probably not.

The mere fact that you used the word bully on a fk board, proves how nuts you are. I did not bully anyone, dumbass! I flat out asked this guy what he was trying to say and then explained why you can't do things that way. I also admitted I also had a few personas, so I do not think anything is wrong with doing it, if you can pull it off. It is however wrong to expect TER to change the rules for you, which I never asked them to do.  

But if you have a pair of pliers, I can stretch it out and make it look 9 inches.  :

You are a bipolar nutjob who needs to get your head out of a hooker's ass. News flash... you are nothing but a TRICK to her bwahahhaah. I hope all your pathetic begging and ass kissing is at least getting you a discount, because if not... you're a fkin I D I O T!  

You know that you were drunk all day.
That's why you didn't participate. Lol.

That's why you're getting all bent out of shape here....your hooker pal got called out and you needed to come riding in on Donkey and protect her innocence.

Good God JLS/Corrine....you have finally gone off the deep end  LOL

Posted By: JuliasLilSecret

Mr. Fisher, I see hookers, escorts, and courtesans as very different business models.  As a hooker, I would provide a sexual experience without any social social interaction that would take very little time.  As an escort, I provide a safe and clean environment with an atmosphere that allows you to come in and relax with me and enjoy my sexual and mental prowess for a bit longer.  And as a courtesan, I offer another level of interaction where a more complete relationship is desired and achieved through providing a residence to entertain in instead of a hotel room, a nicer bottle of wine with some of your favorite munchies, and a longer period of time to enjoy each others' company.  The people I see as a courtesan want to invest more of themselves into the experience, just as I do myself.  
   
 Because of the difference in time, energy, and expense incurred, there has to be a cost difference between the business models.  And while I definitely agree that you can get a great hamburger at the local joint down the road for just a couple of bucks, it's no where near the same as eating one at Pebble Beach (which I know from personal experience, lol).  Both have their own business markets that many consumers will cross over to depending on what their mood is.  
   
 SO, now we discuss where those markets are located, and this is something that I just have a natural gift for.  Opportunity doesn't just knock at my door.  It busts the damn thing down.  I have lightbulbs going off in my head faster than I can keep up with them, which reminds me, I need to write something down...brb.  Ok, thanks.  I keep my attorney pretty busy looking into stuff, and I know he appreciates having me as a client.  LOL  
   
 TER may have a small base of gentlemen who seek a courtesan experience, but I knew that EROS' market was much larger just through the contacts I had made there in the past couple of years.  It is filled with a constant pool of new gentlemen looking for companionship, and they are seeking a very high quality experience that goes beyond just paying for sex.  AND these gentlemen have no time (or desire) to read reviews or log on to a review site.  If a lady has put enough money and intelligence to back the product, this is all that's needed.  So, yes, this is where money does matter...with how I invest in myself and my product.  Can you imagine how much money I spent on just creating that product?  That's what my clients see, and I can back it all up in person, which seals the deal.  
   
 NOW...how should different business models be handled on TER?  I have a third business debuting in the next week or two and I have contacted TER about creating its own profile so that I can advertise it separately.  It has its own website, its own contact information, and its own rate structure.  A single TER profile obviously cannot accommodate all of this information, so I am hoping that TER will look at it purely from a business perspective instead of getting lost in the tunnel vision that can be so rampant out here.  
   
 OMG...she's an escort, AND a courtesan, AND a Naked Gourmet.  AND she has a registered trademark pending.  What a fraud!!  Is she fucking crazy?  Oh yeah, baby.  Crazy like a FOX!  lol    
   
 THANK YOU for your thoughtful question and enlightening perspective, Mr. Fisher.  I always love it when someone makes me use my noodle.      
   
 xo  
   
 

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