How much (if any) is typical for a provider to charge if a hobbyist isn't alone (whether it be MFM or FMF)?

Imo, gals charging a higher rate are more of the "pay for gay" crowd.  

If the other person in the group is also a sex worker.. I don't charge any more than my standard rate.

I still have to pay FULL x 2 but it's HALF the work for each of them, TWICE the work for me and I barely make it to the end!

I wonder how common it is for providers to do doubles?  Is it a problem if one provider is bi and the other isn't?  I ask this because I have never tried a double but it sounds like it could be a lot of fun depending on the escorts that you select.

I'm just not seeing/envisioning your rationale.  Sorry.  My mind really doesn't see what that difference could be to justify an upcharge. There are still the same number of people in the equation, the focal point is still one person.  You're still sharing the 'workload".  

I've had several threesomes and it is a lot more fun if both the ladies are bi. One can tell the difference. I would suggest that you choose one lady of your choice and seek her counsel on who the second participant should be. She will know who will fit in for the fun.  And it can really be fun!!!

The focal point is one person when one person is paying, when two people are paying the focal point is two people.

For providers to do doubles with other ladies.
It is going to be a problem if one provider is not into women and the other provider is.
I suppose one could fake it for one time but if a provider who really does not like women intimately I would think it would be noticeable.You can always tell when someone is not comfortable or is just going through the motions.You do not want a doubles appt to be like that.
You want a doubles appt where both ladies are into ladies.

So your willing to be with another provider for a FMF appt,  but not a couple for a FMF appt?
Doesn't make much sense to me

So you share your hourly rate with the second escort?  What happens if the guy wants to do a double but once the session starts he is only into one female and the other escort is left with nothing to do?  I could see how this could be a potential problem.

...she doesn't increase it when she works with another woman.  The other woman is in charge of her own rate.

Sounds like someone not comfortable with women. She can fake it with another provider, but she wouldn't be able to fake it with the female half of a couple.

No when a guy does a duo he pays each lady her rate for however long he has booked an appt.
When booking a duo there are alot of things that need to be worked out.
That is why it is best to pick providers who have provider friends they regularly work with.
I don't know never had that issue everybody had fun no one was left out

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There are providers who do duos with some provider friends they know or maybe with a provider she recently met.Does not mean automatically that she sees couples as well.
Everyone has the right to choose who they see or don't see.
I guess if a provider does not see couples automatically means she is faking when doing duos with other providers?That doesn't make sense to me but that's your opinion and you are entitled to it.
Most of the duos I have done have been with guys I have saw in the past.
Or with a lady who I worked with in the past who has brought me along to have fun with her and a gent.
That is how I work everyone is different.

Go back and read what I wrote.
 I never said that a provider who doesn't see couples would be uncomfortable with another provider, nor did I say that a provider who will do a duo with another provider automatically has to also see couples.

Honestly, there are a few variables in this equation. There are no set "guidelines" to follow here and you can best contact those ladies of interest and request further information for your specific needs. Keep looking until you find your best match. I'll elaborate a little here.

You said someone who does not see couples sounds like someone not comfortable with women she can fake it with another provider but not with a female half of a couple.
I rather play with a lady who I know or a provider who I have been wanting to meet not a wife or SO.
I did the couple thing one time did not work well for me the SO was not all the way on board with the idea and the guy acted as if she was not a good experience.
So I do what is comfortable for me.
Like I said you are entitled to your opinion but I did not make any false assumptions by your simple one sentence that was pretty clear.


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You're free to disagree. Like you said yourself- we're all different

No problem.
I've talked to several providers that told me that they don't do the couples thing due to their insecurity and discomfort with a civvie woman, but they could put on a decent act with a fellow provider to at least make it look good during a FMF.

Depends on all sorts of things including how well you and the lady or ladies negotiate - some of these things especially as you get into multiple hours and more unusual services are not on the standard "bill of fare".

I've seen many providers offer 'couples' rates of ~$100-200 more per hour. Some may expect the full hourly rate from each additional participant. You'll just have to inquire and judge for yourself if it's worth it.

If this is a first meeting, unless she's really into MFM, both guys may be expected to pay her full rate. If she's seen both of you before and is into it, she may give you a discount. Instead of getting hung up in "standard practices," just make her an offer and work it out from there. The rules are whatever all parties consent to.

don't actually believe that "you are paying for my time" malarkey

Being cheap, low-balling, nickel & diming are frowned upon. There's nothing wrong with asking what she expects for a MFM with your friend, or even asking, "would you accept $___ for a (duration) meeting with me and my friend?"

This line of work would be so much easier if that were true.

They'd both have to pay my standard rate.

There is a huuuuge difference between seeing a civi woman as part of a couple, and seeing a woman one on one or doing a duo with another provider.  

Unicorn? I don't think so. I see plenty of providers offering their services to couples. Seems like alot of them, actually.
But to each their own, I guess.

I wouldn't pay for your time unless that time would include a guaranteed certainty of sex..

While checking out various providers websites, many list on their FAQ pages that they are couples friendly. It's posted as a question on virtually every FAQ page that I encounter, so from the hundreds of websites that I've visited it seems far from rare. If there is a true unicorn in the hobby world, I gotta believe that I fit that bill

Or of course, it could be that once again Charlie thinks that she can speak for ALL hookers, and because she doesn't like to deal with couples, no one does. Nah, that couldn't possibly be it, could it?

As an occasional doubler, I can say that the upcharge is rarely the case and really not an issue. More frequently (just yesterday, in fact), the problem is a minimum time, ie. no 1 hour appointments. Probably not an issue with a lot of people, but I'm not as young as I once was and am really a one-pop guy so a 2 hour appointment is definitely overkill.

I think you can imagine that it's damn near impossible to find that hot, young third for free. But money changes everything.

We all know what a unicorn is, well all of us BUT Charlie.  

but THOSE women are called doctors and lawyers. Hookers I pay for sex, and I don't even bother pretending otherwise.

I dated a provider once who would do threesomes for work all the time, she was most definitely NOT bi and would never interact with the other lady any more than absolutely necessary. I am positive that she would never see a couple where she would have to not only interact with the woman, but would most likely be expected to take the lead.

One is an "assistant" of sorts, the other is another paying customer, expecting to be pleased.

Ain't nothing in it for me, so she's  pretty much as useless to me as tits on a bull

just paid a doctor to stick her finger up my ass... does that count as paying for sex ?

I think the "unicorn" comment did not relate to providers, but civilian single females who are willing to join couples for non-p4p fun.

Two months from now you'll be telling us all how you have insider information from all your "hooker girlfriends" and quote me. As always *yawn*

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